Truthful predictions

[Josheb]

I notice this board has posts that go back to 2012. Can any of you cite a specific prediction any forum member has posted since then that has come true?

 

[Follower Of Christ]

I do not dabble in prophecy for it takes one single false prediction to disqualify someone from being a prophet. And there are plenty of false prophets out there. I have commented on the Book of Revelation though and some other parts of scripture.

However, in a Spring 2024 post I alluded to Donald J. Trump being made president again. In Amos 7, we have God sparing Jacob (Israel) from 2 world wars. Then a plumb line is set by God in the middle of his people. A final warning is set.

Anyway please check "Third Temple, Plumb Lines, Spiritual Stones etc." thread way down in the pile here. It's post nr. 3.

As I said before, I am no prophet and don't claim to be one.

 

[Hidden In Him]

I notice this board has posts that go back to 2012. Can any of you cite a specific prediction any forum member has posted since then that has come true?

Before I answer that, why are you asking specifically?

 

[Hidden In Him]

Before I answer that, why are you asking specifically?

Well, let me just post a few things. I wasn't here yet when I posted some of the more political and world events-oriented stuff, but I did allude to things here. Predicted a few days after the war started in Ukraine that it would last a long time and the Russians would be on the losing end because their military would be depleted. That went contrary to public opinion at the time, because the assumption was that the Russian military was invincible and they would just roll over Ukraine. One guy even mocked me and told me Odessa would fall within a few weeks. Odessa was never touched, and now the Ukraine is slowly invading into Russia as Putin's war machine is slowly grinding down.

The dream itself was posted on another forum, but if you are limiting things to just what as been posted here, I alluded to it in this post back about two years ago:

https://christianforums.net/threads/ukraine.95396/page-7#post-1749525

Here's a piece on Russia's military decline:

Putin doesn’t have enough troops to defeat Ukraine and defend Russia

The Ukrainian invasion of Russia's Kursk region has proved that Putin's attempt to conquer Ukraine has left his army dangerously overstretched and unable to defend Russia itself, writes Peter Dickinson.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

 

[Hidden In Him]

I notice this board has posts that go back to 2012. Can any of you cite a specific prediction any forum member has posted since then that has come true?

Actually, I did post the dream here now that I remember. I'll go find it in a second. The thread I created here focused on how drone warfare would greatly increase, and it has. Russia and Ukraine are now producing a massive amount of drones, and the numbers continue to increase.

But the dream suggested Ukraine would win the war. Btw, there was a massive drone attack carried out deep into Russian territory just yesterday.

Ukraine claims biggest aerial strike on Russian territory​

Kyiv (Ukraine) (AFP) – Ukraine carried out its largest aerial attack on Russian territory of the nearly three-year war overnight, Kyiv said Tuesday, hitting factories and energy hubs hundreds of miles from the frontline.
Issued on: 14/01/2025 - 15:20

"The Ukrainian Defence Forces carried out the most massive strike against the occupiers' military facilities, at a distance of 200 to 1,100 kilometres (125 to 700 miles) deep into the territory of the Russian Federation," Ukraine's General Staff said in a post on social media.

Facilities "in the Bryansk, Saratov, Tula regions and the Republic of Tatarstan were hit," it added.

Among the targets were a chemical factory that makes rocket fuel and ammunition for Russia's army, an oil depot near a Russian air base and an oil refinery. Firefighters had only the day before managed to put out a blaze at an oil depot in the city of Engels, which was hit by a Ukrainian drone strike on January 8. Kyiv's army said it had hit the same site again.

'Successful' strike​

In the energy-rich region of Tatarstan, a Ukrainian drone struck a gas storage tank, sending flames and thick smoke billowing toward the sky near the city of Kazan, according to media and the regional government.

Tatarstan local media said a liquefied gas storage base was hit, and published images showing flames and black smoke.

Russia's defence ministry said it shot down six US-supplied ATACMS missiles and six British Storm Shadow cruise missiles that Ukraine had fired in the attack on the Bryansk region.

Ukraine's army had earlier claimed it had hit a chemical plant near the town of Seltso, more than 100 kilometres from the border, that makes ammunition and explosives for Russia's army.

"Drones successfully distracted Russian air defences, paving the way for missiles that hit the main targets," the Ukrainian military's Unmanned Systems Forces said.

Ukraine regularly targets military and energy sites in Russia, part of what it calls "fair" retaliation for Russia's repeated barrages of its energy grid since Moscow invaded in February 2022.

"Systematic work to destroy facilities that supply ammunition, military equipment, and fuel and lubricants to the Russian occupation army will continue until the Russian Federation's armed aggression against Ukraine is completely stopped," the army said.

The Ukrainian air force said separately that its air defence systems had downed 58 Iranian-designed drones launched by Russia, while another 21 were destroyed with electronic interference systems or crashed.

Ukraine claims biggest aerial strike on Russian territory

Ukraine carried out its largest aerial attack on Russian territory of the nearly three-year war overnight, Kyiv said Tuesday, hitting factories and energy hubs hundreds of miles from the frontline.

www.france24.com

 

[Hidden In Him]

This was the thread with the dream in it, posted two and half years ago.

Thread 'Drone Tactics: The State Of Modern Warfare'

Jun 11, 2022

Days after the war in Ukraine began, a friend of mine posted a dream on another forum that suggested drone use would be the defining factor of the war. Likening the Russians to bullies in the dream, the narrative went as follows:

There were little cartoon girls and little boys, in real like settings. It was a huge building with an upstairs and downstairs. The little girls' area was downstairs and was all forest/woods. Upstairs looked more like a military base. The boys were up there. They had this long box in the middle of their play area with a lot of missiles inside. They were taking...

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[Josheb]

I notice this board has posts that go back to 2012. Can any of you cite a specific prediction any forum member has posted since then that has come true?

I do not dabble in prophecy for it takes one single false prediction to disqualify someone from being a prophet. And there are plenty of false prophets out there. I have commented on the Book of Revelation though and some other parts of scripture.

However, in a Spring 2024 post I alluded to Donald J. Trump being made president again. In Amos 7, we have God sparing Jacob (Israel) from 2 world wars. Then a plumb line is set by God in the middle of his people. A final warning is set.

Anyway please check "Third Temple, Plumb Lines, Spiritual Stones etc." thread way down in the pile here. It's post nr. 3.

As I said before, I am no prophet and don't claim to be one.

Thank you.

Before I answer that, why are you asking specifically?

Any answer I'd give would be irrelevant to the question asked. My motives and intent have absolutely no bearing on the efficacy or the veracity of this board's predictions over the past decade. Please just answer the question asked.



Let me clarify my question. I am asking about predictions that posters claim scripture makes, not whether or not a poster has predicted something that subsequently happened. For example, I, too, have often said Trump would win the 2024 election but I did so without claiming that is what scripture prophesied. Similarly, since scripture can be made to say just about anything, what was predicted that comes explicitly specified in scripture according to the claims of the ops in this board has come true.

we have God sparing Jacob (Israel) from 2 world wars.

That is a matter of interpretation.

I would say that any prophecy pertaining to the restoration of covenant Israel has yet to occur. Therefore, the current geo-political nation-state of Israel has little if anything to do with prophecy because it is not (yet) the covenant Israel to which God was referring when He made those promises of restoration. Certain modern futurists, however, disregard the specifics and contexts of those prophesies to assert modern Israel is a fulfillment of prophecy when in reality is only a fulfillment of their interpretation of selected prophecies.

So, prophetic Israel was not spared from anything because prophetic Israel does not yet exist.

And nothing else I have read so far in response to my inquiry bears veracity because they all fall prey to the same problems of sectarian and/or eisegetic interpretation.

Go back to 2012 and peruse the threads wherein it was predicted the rapture was going to occur "soon" or within a specified time, or correlated to some specified event. Did any of those predictions happen? Apply the same metrics to claims about the second coming. Did any of those predictions happen? How about the temple being built? Anything?

According to Follower Of Christ, it takes only one wrong prediction to make a person a false prophet. I'm inclined to agree. If we abide by that standard, then any poster who made any wrong prediction anytime since 2012 has disqualified him/herself from having anything veracious to say in this board. Yes? If that is the correct way to view the matter, then is it also correct to apply that standard to what we read/hear outside the forum? Has a preacher who's made a bad prediction disqualified him/herself?

 

[Hidden In Him]

Let me clarify my question. I am asking about predictions that posters claim scripture makes, not whether or not a poster has predicted something that subsequently happened. For example, I, too, have often said Trump would win the 2024 election but I did so without claiming that is what scripture prophesied. Similarly, since scripture can be made to say just about anything, what was predicted that comes explicitly specified in scripture according to the claims of the ops in this board has come true.

So you are wishing only to discuss Biblical prophecy then. That's part of why I was asking. Joel 2:28 states that in the end-times Gods people will see visions, dream dreams and prophecy, meaning they will do so outside of scripture. But if you are wishing to narrow the scope to the written word, my apologies for misunderstanding what it was you were looking for.

Blessings,
- H

 

[RandyK]

Thank you.

Any answer I'd give would be irrelevant to the question asked. My motives and intent have absolutely no bearing on the efficacy or the veracity of this board's predictions over the past decade. Please just answer the question asked.



Let me clarify my question. I am asking about predictions that posters claim scripture makes, not whether or not a poster has predicted something that subsequently happened. For example, I, too, have often said Trump would win the 2024 election but I did so without claiming that is what scripture prophesied. Similarly, since scripture can be made to say just about anything, what was predicted that comes explicitly specified in scripture according to the claims of the ops in this board has come true.

That is a matter of interpretation.

I would say that any prophecy pertaining to the restoration of covenant Israel has yet to occur. Therefore, the current geo-political nation-state of Israel has little if anything to do with prophecy because it is not (yet) the covenant Israel to which God was referring when He made those promises of restoration. Certain modern futurists, however, disregard the specifics and contexts of those prophesies to assert modern Israel is a fulfillment of prophecy when in reality is only a fulfillment of their interpretation of selected prophecies.

So, prophetic Israel was not spared from anything because prophetic Israel does not yet exist.

And nothing else I have read so far in response to my inquiry bears veracity because they all fall prey to the same problems of sectarian and/or eisegetic interpretation.

Go back to 2012 and peruse the threads wherein it was predicted the rapture was going to occur "soon" or within a specified time, or correlated to some specified event. Did any of those predictions happen? Apply the same metrics to claims about the second coming. Did any of those predictions happen? How about the temple being built? Anything?

According to Follower Of Christ, it takes only one wrong prediction to make a person a false prophet. I'm inclined to agree. If we abide by that standard, then any poster who made any wrong prediction anytime since 2012 has disqualified him/herself from having anything veracious to say in this board. Yes? If that is the correct way to view the matter, then is it also correct to apply that standard to what we read/hear outside the forum? Has a preacher who's made a bad prediction disqualified him/herself?

Well, I'm not saying what you are, but your questions sound a lot like Amillennialists I've encountered over a number of years. I'm certainly not against them--you just sound like them.

Amills tend to be Replacement Theologians--they often don't like that term. They don't believe modern Israel really is the "Chosen nation" because Reform Theology views the promises of Israel as having failed among the Jews largely and now better fits non-Jews. I don't agree, but that's their view for the most part.

The Scriptures, as I interpret them, view Israel as having lost the Kingdom *as a nation,* but certainly not as a promise and a hope for the future. I believe Israel will become a Christian nation *after* Christ's Return. Amills believe this is impossible, believing that at the end of this age there will be no Millennial Age in which they can convert.

So in the Olivet Discourse we are told by Jesus that the Jewish People are largely punished in the present age, up until the coming of the Kingdom. This prediction and interpretation I've held to throughout my time here on this forum, though my time here has not been long. This "prophetic interpretation" has certainly been true, though it isn't predicting events like horoscopes. ;)

Daniel's forecast for the continuance of the Roman imperial culture in Europe has certainly been true, as Europe continues to have a dominating culture on the world stage, and can consolidate its members into a super-force on earth. In eastern Europe we have Russia, and in western Europe we have a civilization that extends across into the Americans and even all the way to Australia and New Zealand. This power may very well be a superpower that is able to humble China and India.

Interpretations of Prophecy, or "prophetic schools," are not "prophecies." They are "best guesses" at biblical interpretation. We should feel free to come to our best conclusions, based on what we know, though our knowledge is limited. We can learn and make changes along the way, if we are virtuous enough and humble enough to admit errors at times.

 

[miamited]

Hi Josheb

I doubt that there are any who have that kind of recall. I know I don't. I will say though, that I don't put much stock in modern prophets. But that isn't the same as studying the prophecies found in the Scriptures. I believe that every word of the Scriptures is there for our edification in some way. That would include the prophetic writings.

I hope that you get an answer to your question.

I am asking about predictions that posters claim scripture makes,

That doesn't say this:

Can any of you cite a specific prediction any forum member has posted since then that has come true?

And yes, I'd say that needed some explaining because that isn't how I read your OP, either. There are literally tons of posts concerning the prophecies of the Scriptures and 'how' others believe they will be worked out in real life upon the earth. For example: The prophecy of the 1,000 year reign of Jesus. Some here believe that it isn't going to be a literal 1,000 years and others believe that it is. It also is generally the prophecies that haven't been fulfilled yet that are the most questioned by the fellowship.

I think we all are in agreement that the prophecy of the young maiden being pregnant with child, is a prophecy from God to explain the pregnancy of Mary with Jesus.