Two of The Beasts Revealed

[Zero Link]

All signs point to it...

I was reading upon World's last chance and they made plenty of sense. The bible teaches how 7 kings will fall, and the 8th king will rise and go into Predition. Or something like that. Basically the 8th king is one of the beasts....

The 7 kings are the 7 popes i believe... Notice how the 6th one was Seriously Wounded. The bible said the anti-christ will heal from his serious wound didn't it? Anyway moving on...

The official title of the pope is "Vicarius Filii Dei", which translated is, "Representative of the Son of God". To confirm, the Catholic newspaper Our Sunday Visitor of April 18, 1915 wrote: "The engraved letter on the pope's Mitre is as follows: 'Vicarius Filii Dei '". Since in Latin certain letters have numerical values, we only need to add them up to come to 666.

Didn't the bible mention the anti-christ number will equall up to 666? Lets add up that name shall we?

U.S.A is his image.

13. It is clear the two-horned beast is the USA. But what is the relationship between the USA and the image of the beast?

Although the USA was founded on principles opposed to the papacy, today we observe how the USA and the Vatican are working more closely together to make their influence more prominent. The Bible tells us that one day, in the not too distant future, the USA will legislate a law requiring its citizens, and then the world, to worship the first beast, the papacy. "And he [USA] exerciseth all the power of the first beast [papacy] before him, and causeth the earth [first USA, then globally] and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast [honoring papacy's Sunday], whose deadly wound [1798] was healed [1929] .saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast [duplicating the papacy when she used civil power to enforce religious dogma], which had the wound by a sword, and did live" Rev. 13:12, 14.

Soon the USA will renounce its religious freedom to enforce Sunday observance (the mark of the beast).This means Protestant Churches will control the government to accomplish their agenda. When this happens, the USA will have made an image to the Roman Catholic Church, uniting church with state. Then USA will speak "as a dragon" and exercise "all the power of the first beast" Rev. 13:11, 12 ; she will have the same spirit of intolerance and persecution that was manifested by the first beast, the papacy.

Therefore, as religious freedom is lost, persecution of the dissenting minorities will be inevitable, and there will be a repetition of the Middle Ages religious intolerance: "And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast [Sunday laws enacted] ...and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast [by honoring Saturday, not Sunday] should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark [those who honor the true Sabbath will be forbidden to buy and sell], or the name of the beast." Rev. 13:15-17

Some will receive the mark "in their forehead" because they chose to "believe a lie" 2 Thessalonians 2:11. Others, though convinced that Sunday is not the true Sabbath, will submit to preserve their livelihood thus receiving the mark "in their right hand that is a symbol of work.


14. For this to be true, there should be evidence that the papacy is currently pursuing Sunday exaltation in the USA, and that the Protestants of the USA (historic enemies of Rome), have changed their attitude, and are expressing readiness to collaborate in enacting Sunday laws. Is there such evidence?

Today most Protestants are favorable towards the papacy, and this has emboldened the papacy to seek aggressively the legislation of Sunday observance:

"All Americans would do well to petition the President and the Congress to make a Federal law - an amendment to the Constitution if need be - to re-establish the (false) Sabbath as a national Day of Rest." CATHOLIC TWIN CIRCLE, August 25, 1985, Article "Sacking Sunday"

"In this matter, my predecessor Pope Leo XIII ... spoke of Sunday rest as a worker's right whichthe State must guarantee." Pope John Paul II-DIES DOMINI, May 31, 1998

"Therefore...Christians will naturally strive to ensure that civil legislation respects their duty to keep Sunday holy. In any case, they are obliged in conscience to arrange their Sunday rest in a way which allows them to take part in the Eucharist, refraining from work and activities which are incompatible with the sanctification of the Lord's Day..." Pope John Paul II, DIES DOMINI, May 31, 1998

"... Christians [everywhere] should seek recognition of Sundays and the Church's holy days as legal holidays." Catechism of the Catholic Church, popular and definitive edition, 2000, par 2188

How to Avoid the Mark of the Beast

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15. How then can I avoid receiving the mark of the beast?

This is the most important question. God, in His infinite love, has warned us not to worship the beast and thereby receive his mark. Those receiving the mark of the beast "shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture [without mercy] into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone...who worship the beast [honor papacy through Sunday observance] and his image [USA enforcing Sunday observance], and whosever receiveth the mark of his name" Rev. 14:10, 11.

These are very solemn words from God. His wrath is in proportion to the offense. By honoring, Sunday, originated by Satan through the papacy, you are preparing to receive the mark of the beast. Satan wants to deceive as many as he can into honoring this counterfeit day. To perfect his deception, he chose Sunday, the day of Christ's resurrection knowing that most people would believe that Sunday observance is more appropriate than Saturday, since it honors the resurrection of Christ. But the only way not to receive the mark of the beast is to refuse honoring a day that was not chosen of God. The only day which God has ordained as holy is Saturday Sabbath and by honoring it you will receive the "the seal of the living God" Rev. 7:2.

If you want to honor the death and resurrection of Christ, the Bible distinctly says you do so by baptism (total immersion). See Romans 6:3-5. By entering into the water (being buried) you acknowledge His death. By coming out of the water (arising) you acknowledge His resurrection.


16. What about the billions of Christians in the past who honored Sunday instead of Saturday - did they unknowingly receive the mark of the beast? And what about the Christians today who sincerely think Sunday is the Bible Sabbath?

Most Christians of past generations observed Sunday, thinking they were keeping the Bible Sabbath; and today there are true Christians in every church, including the Roman Catholic Church, who believe that Sunday is the Lord's Day. None are accountable for their errors since the light has not been brought to them. For the Lord "winks" at our times of ignorance. See Acts 17:30. We are only judged by the light we had the opportunity to receive. But, when the universal Sunday law is enforced, the issue will be clear before all, and then whoever shall transgress the command of God, to obey a precept which has no higher authority than that of Rome will receive the mark of the beast.

Soon, each person will face this test with eternal stakes, to keep the commandments of God or the papacy. Where will you stand?


All information is on:
http://www.worldslastchance.com/index.p ... _pope.php#

 

[preterist]

Didn't the bible mention the anti-christ number will equall up to 666? Lets add up that name shall we?

The Bible wasn't written in Latin.


http://www.americanvision.org/articlear ... -10-05.asp

Ancient numbering systems used an alpha-numeric method. This is true of the Latin (Roman) system that is still common today: I=1, V=5, X=10, L=50, C=100, D=500, M=1000. Greek and Hebrew follow a similar method where each letter of their alphabets represents a number. The first nine letters represent 1–9.3 The tenth letter represents 10, with the nineteenth letter representing 100 and so on. Since the Book of Revelation is written in a Hebrew context by a Jew with numerous allusions to the Old Testament, we should expect the solution to deciphering the meaning of six hundred and sixty-six to be Hebraic. "The reason clearly is that, while [John] writes in Greek, he thinks in Hebrew, and the thought has naturally affected the vehicle of expression."


When Nero Caesar's name is transliterated into Hebrew, which a first-century Jew would probably have done, he would have gotten Neron Kesar or simply nrwn qsr, since Hebrew has no letters to represent vowels. “It has been documented by archaeological finds that a first century Hebrew spelling of Nero's name provides us with precisely the value of 666. Jastrow's lexicon of the Talmud contains this very spelling.

When we take the letters of Nero's name and spell them in Hebrew, we get the following numeric values: n=50, r=200, w=6, n=50, q=100, s=60, r=200 = 666. “Every Jewish reader, of course, saw that the Beast was a symbol of Nero. And both Jews and Christians regarded Nero as also having close affinities with the serpent or dragon. . . . The Apostle writing as a Hebrew, was evidently thinking as a Hebrew. . . . Accordingly, the Jewish Christian would have tried the name as he thought of the nameâ€â€that is in Hebrew letters. And the moment that he did this the secret stood revealed. No Jew ever thought of Nero except as ‘Neron Kesar.


The fragment supports the reading of some Greek New Testament manuscripts that read 616 instead of 666. Why would someone making a copy of the Revelation scroll make such a number change? “Perhaps the change was intentional, seeing that the Greek form Neron Caesar written in Hebrew characters (nrwn qsr) is equivalent to 666, whereas the Latin form Nero Caesar (nrw qsr) is equivalent to 616.†A Latin copyist might have thought that 666 was an error because Nero Caesar did not add up to 666 when transliterated into Latin. He then changed 666 to 616 to conform to the Latin rendering since it was generally accepted that Nero was the Beast. In either case, a Hebrew transliteration nets 666, while a Latin spelling nets 616. Nero was the “man†and either 666 or 616 was his number.

A fragment from the oldest surviving copy of the New Testament shows that the number of the Beast of Revelation 13 is 616. Ellen Aitken, a professor of early Christian history at McGill University, states that “the majority opinion seems to be that it refers to [the Roman emperor] Nero.†The early fragment supports the view that Revelation was written prior to the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70, and whether the number is 666 or 616, the number is a reference to Nero and not some end-time antichrist figure.

 

[lecoop]

You missed something:

Rev 17
9And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, [on which the woman sitteth.]
10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

If we take out the parenthetics (just for a moment) we would read:

The seven heads are seven mountains And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come.

Notice that each king has a kingdom (mountian) and the idea is that each king has a separate mountian, not the same one!

To take Rome and different leaders of Rome is to tear Daniel out of the bible! No, No No! We don't want to tear Daniel out! There is too many links from Daniel in the book of Revelation to leave Daniel out.

For instance, the verses about the antichrist coming from 10 nations, had he being the 11th, defeats three, and becomes then, the eighth: just what Revelation tells us. Therefore, to understand the 7 kingdoms, we must go back to Daniel. Daniel covered from Nebuchadnezzar to Dairus to Alexander, and finally to Rome. Why then, would you think some of the Roman leaders would be more important than say, Nebuchadnezzar? How many times is Babylon mentioned in Revelation? Nebuchadnezzar was the ancient king of Babylon. We cannot then, leave these kings and kingdoms out. So who would the five fallen kings be?

First, the Pharoh that held the children of Israel slaves in Egypt. I don't think that we have to pick a certain one: just Egypt and her leader, the Pharoh. Next would be Assyria and her king. We are not interested in a name per se, but that would be Tiglathpileser. After Assyria, Babylon took captives of Israel. That would be Nebuchadnezzar. Next, Darius the Mede defeated Nebuchadnezzar. Then Alexander the Great defeated Darius. Finally, Rome defeated Greece. How many have now fallen? 1: Egypt's Pharoh, 2: Assyria's king, 3: Babylon's king, 4: Mede's King, and 5: Greece's King, Alexander.

The "is" or current kingdom in John's time, was Rome. Who would come and be there only a short time? Who killed 6 million Jews in a very short period of time? That would be Hitler, and Germany, one of the ten toes on the great image seen by Nebuchadnezzar.

Coop

 

[Gabbylittleangel]

Hey Coop!

I sure would like to see you over on this thread.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=26586