Unity of Religions

[dattaswami]

Unity of Religions

The correlation of the scriptures of various religions was done in a detailed way by several prophets who aimed at the world peace. Even I have done this correlation in major topics like human rebirth, concept of human incarnation etc. The effect of such correlation is not much because the devotees of various religions are neither influenced by the unity of the scriptures nor by the unity of human beings having the same bodies of matter and energy externally and the internal souls made of the same pure awareness.

Scriptures are the concepts given by various forms of God. Devotees feel that these forms of God are totally different from each other. Unless you bring the correlation of the various forms of God belonging to different religions, the problem is not solved in the root. You have to come from top to bottom in the solution for difference. The correlation of unity in the scriptures and in the human beings is an attempt of solving the problem from bottom to top. If you can prove the unity of the forms of God and establish the concept of single God in various religions, the scriptures have to be correlated forcibly because one God cannot speak contradicting concepts in various religions.

Like this if you come from the top for the solution, there is always a tremendous binding force acting on the heads of devotees to correlate the scriptures. Even if some little variations exist in the scriptures, they have to be unified by force in the light of unity of God, who is the single speaker of various scriptures.

 

[Sha'zar]

Unity of Religions

The correlation of the scriptures of various religions was done in a detailed way by several prophets who aimed at the world peace. Even I have done this correlation in major topics like human rebirth, concept of human incarnation etc. The effect of such correlation is not much because the devotees of various religions are neither influenced by the unity of the scriptures nor by the unity of human beings having the same bodies of matter and energy externally and the internal souls made of the same pure awareness.

Scriptures are the concepts given by various forms of God. Devotees feel that these forms of God are totally different from each other. Unless you bring the correlation of the various forms of God belonging to different religions, the problem is not solved in the root. You have to come from top to bottom in the solution for difference. The correlation of unity in the scriptures and in the human beings is an attempt of solving the problem from bottom to top. If you can prove the unity of the forms of God and establish the concept of single God in various religions, the scriptures have to be correlated forcibly because one God cannot speak contradicting concepts in various religions.

Like this if you come from the top for the solution, there is always a tremendous binding force acting on the heads of devotees to correlate the scriptures. Even if some little variations exist in the scriptures, they have to be unified by force in the light of unity of God, who is the single speaker of various scriptures.

it is very easy to want to unify all the religions of the world. i think it is natural to desire unity, because unity breeds acceptance. everyone wants to be accepted, it's a part of our nature. and while most religions have very similar themes, and there are things which would make us better people if we followed them, the fact of the matter is, the Bible does not allow for bastardizations of salvation. Jesus Christ claimed that salvation was only & exclusively through him. you can make a case that Jesus Christ is only one representation of God, sent to those who need a savior complex to obtain enlightenment, but this is not supported at all in the Bible. once you step outside of basing things on the Bible, you delve into dangerous territory, where there are no lines & no rules, where morality is determined by the individual, and eventually this logic progresses into humanism. as such, i wholeheartedly disagree with your proposal. i am interested if you can make such a case using the Bible, or if it is just mental supposition.

 

[dattaswami]

Unity of Religions

The correlation of the scriptures of various religions was done in a detailed way by several prophets who aimed at the world peace. Even I have done this correlation in major topics like human rebirth, concept of human incarnation etc. The effect of such correlation is not much because the devotees of various religions are neither influenced by the unity of the scriptures nor by the unity of human beings having the same bodies of matter and energy externally and the internal souls made of the same pure awareness.

Scriptures are the concepts given by various forms of God. De.artedly disagree with your proposal. i am interested if you can make such a case using the Bible, or if it is just mental supposition.

Religions are work of man. God donot have any religion. But God comes in every human generation to preach and uplift the human beings known as Human Incarnation. Thus Human incarnation when He alive on this earth will tell that He is the only path. Since God is impartial He comes in every human generation.

In the scriptures of every religion, the corresponding human incarnations gave statements proclaiming their own uniqueness and the uniqueness of their preaching or path. Some examples of such words of Lord Jesus in the Bible are: “I am the lightâ€Â; “I am the pathâ€Â; “I and My Father are one and the sameâ€Â; “One can reach My Father only through Meâ€Â. Every fanatic religious follower follows the human incarnation, who preached his religion. The fanatic quotes such statements of uniqueness and exclusivity preached by that human incarnation in the scriptures of his religion. Suppose there is a neutral person. Which religion should he join? It is as if every shopkeeper is shouting that his shop alone is the best. Each shopkeeper is bent upon proving his point to the single customer in order to invite him into his own shop.

The above concept of one God as the creator of this one world clearly demands a unity in all the human incarnations and religious scriptures of the world. Statements of uniqueness in different scriptures, if interpreted properly can achieve this unity. For example, in the above statements of Lord Jesus, the word ‘I’ means the human incarnation in general. It is called Emmanuel in the Bible, which means that God comes to live with human beings. The Bhagavad Gita also says that God enters the human body. God pervades all over the human body of the incarnation like electric current pervading all over a live wire. The current and the wire become one and the same. This is the interpretation of oneness of the Father and the Son. One can experience God only through a medium and that medium must be the same as the person trying to experience God. Thus human beings can experience God only through the human incarnation of God. This is the interpretation of the statement that one can reach the Father only through the Son. The human incarnation preaches the special knowledge clearly like a bright light revealing every minute detail. Such interpretations reveal the real universal meaning of scriptures. Other literal or conservative interpretations are bound to lead to misunderstandings.

When a mother says to her children “All of you must serve meâ€Â, she does not mean that all the children in the world should serve her. Obviously children in some other part of the world cannot serve her. Her statement should be limited to her children only and you should limit her as the mother of those children only. If you want to generalize her as any mother, then her statement means that every child should serve his or her own mother. Therefore limitation and conservatism is ignorance and generalization is the true universal knowledge. A limited or literal interpretation may have a certain limited benefit or utility. Generalization based on the universal knowledge gives the maximum benefit. Generalization based on conservative or biased ideas, which are the result of ignorance, lead to fanaticism. This is a great loss.

 

[Momentum]

so what makes your ideas better than anyone elses?


you are missing some major things among religions as well.

First a lot of Religions or contradictory like Buddhism says there is no God and Hinduism says there are a epic amount of Gods. Islam says there is one God and the greatest sin is saying God is a trinity, which is the opposite of Christianity, which says there is one God in a trinity.

I never really got your point, because your sentences aren't clear with a point, just rambling on, but perhaps i got the gist of it?

 

[dattaswami]

so what makes your ideas better than anyone elses?


you are missing some major things among religions as well.

First a lot of Religions or contradictory like Buddhism says there is no God and Hinduism says there are a epic amount of Gods. Islam says there is one God and the greatest sin is saying God is a trinity, which is the opposite of Christianity, which says there is one God in a trinity.

I never really got your point, because your sentences aren't clear with a point, just rambling on, but perhaps i got the gist of it?

God is unimaginable and - cannot be served directly.
There is no other way than – to serve mediated God.
Buddha is also misunderstood – as an atheist by followers.
Buddha kept silent about God, – silence means unimaginable.
Silence does not mean that – God is non-existent, Veda says
That words cannot touch God, – only silence indicates God.
Shankara says that God is best – explained through silence.
All religions can be correlated, – since there is one God only.

The concept of one God – should be proved first of all.
Then only correlation of – the scriptures of all religions.
Without the basic establishment – of the point of one God,
If you correlate scriptures, – correlation may be coincidence, since
Some times unity may exist – in speeches of different speakers.
This will not bring unity in – all the religions of world for peace.

If one God is proved first, - all religions must be united subsequently.
Shankara united sub-religions – in Hinduism and brought peace.
Hinduism in those days was – like the present fighting religions.
Shiva, Vishnu, Ganapati, Shakti – Skanda and Surya were Gods.
Their followers were fighting – like the present religious followers.
Yesterday-Hinduism represents – today-Universal Religions.
Today-Hinduism represents – tomorrow-united religions.
Shankara brought unity in Hinduism – similarly Datta will bring
Unity of Universal Religions – through analytical arguments.

God stressed certain aspects – especially in various religions.
Pickup those central diamonds – and prepare a garland with them.
That will be our Universal Spirituality – for the peace of world.
Hinduism is famous for unity – in diversity of various aspects.
Christianity is famous for kindness – even for sinners to uplift.
Islam stands for sincerity and – strict discipline towards God.
Buddhism is for controlling desire – in the service to society.
Jainism is for kindness to – all living beings in this world.
Similarly you can pick up – gems from various other religions.
Science is also a religion – to analyze non-God items of world.
Shankara united various – branches of single religion, Hinduism.
Then India stood as spiritual guide – for all Indians themselves.
Today all religions of world exist – in India, Datta unites them.
Now let India stand as spiritual guide – for all religions in world
To unite all citizens of the world – to achieve world peace.

 

[Free]

How many times must we point out to you that all major religions are irreconcilably different. There is no unity of religions because there cannot be. That you think they can be united shows that you are ignorant of several of the major religions, particularly Christianity.

You say that God is unimaginable and unknowable yet your very words contradict your arguments. Your philosophy is based thus far on many unsupported assumptions.

Please address these points made against you directly and clearly.

 

[dattaswami]

How many times must we point out to you that all major religions are irreconcilably different. There is no unity of religions because there cannot be. That you think they can be united shows that you are ignorant of several of the major religions, particularly Christianity.

You say that God is unimaginable and unknowable yet your very words contradict your arguments. Your philosophy is based thus far on many unsupported assumptions.

Please address these points made against you directly and clearly.

God gives value for the spiritual knowledge contained in the religion. Religion is the external cup and spiritual knowledge is the internal material supplied to the customer in the hotel. The customer pays for the internal material and not for the external cup. The sweet Payasam in the cheap ceramic cup will have high payment. The cheap drinking water given in costly golden cup has no payment at all. The customer takes the material only and not the container. Similarly, the spiritual knowledge alone follows the soul from birth to birth and not the religion. When the external body is left over here, the soul raises up in a new energetic body. The soul in the new energetic body is associated with the spiritual knowledge alone but not with the religion. A Christian after leaving the external body does not remember that he is Christian. Similar is a Hindu, Similar is a Muslim, Similar is the human being of any religion.


When the soul goes up, it stands before God and is enquired irrespective of its religion. Only its service to the world under the guidance of God is counted. Just like you come out of the hotel with the Payasam in your stomach, leaving cup in the hotel, you will go up along with spiritual knowledge leaving the religion in this world. Only the good and bad works done by you will have the corresponding fruits, whatever may be your religion. There is no Hindu heaven, Christian heaven, Islamic heaven etc. There is only one heaven to enjoy the fruits of your good deeds. Similarly, there is no Hindu hell, Christian hell, Islamic hell etc. There is only one hell to enjoy the fruits of your bad deeds.

The ignorant people are fond of the external culture, language and religion. They pay for the external cup and not for the internal material. You are giving value to the external religion, which you have to leave in this world. You are paying lot of cash for the cheap drinking water given to you in the golden cup! You want not to pay for the Payasam since it is given in ceramic cup! What a great foolishness is this! You are not paying for the material that enters your stomach! You want to pay for the material of the cup, which is to be left over in the hotel itself! You are praising about the external cup and not giving value to the internal material. You are proud of your religion, heritage and external culture. You are never bothered about the internal material. In every religion, there are good traditions as well as bad traditions. A good tradition is to be decided by the value of the internal material or spiritual knowledge. Similar is a bad tradition. You have to take good traditions and reject bad traditions based on the internal material, even though the external religious tradition is common. You should not praise all the traditions of your religion blindly without examining and analyzing the internal content.

Similarly, you should not discard the traditions of other religion without analyzing the internal content. Your religion may be costly gold. Other religion may be cheap ceramic. You should not blindly accept all the gold cups. One golden cup may have a good medicine in it, which is useful for your health. Another golden cup may have poison, which may harm your health. You should not drink both medicine and poison due to your passion for gold. You should distinguish both the golden cups based on the analysis of internal material. Sometimes, you may have poison in golden cup and good medicine in ceramic cup. You have to reject the golden cup and accept the ceramic cup. Similarly, you may have to reject a wrong tradition of your religion and must accept a good tradition of other religion. You must not say that all the golden cups contain medicine and all the ceramic cups contain poison. In every religion there are both good and bad traditions. Some golden cups contain medicine and some golden cups contain poison. Since, you belong to the gold group, you must not say that all golden cups contain medicine only. Same is case with ceramic cups. If you are capable of rejecting the gold cup containing poison and capable of accepting ceramic cup containing medicine, you are belonging to the Universal Spirituality. Our Universal Spirituality is a religion of medicine irrespective of the external cups.

Sometimes, we may give you the medicine in the golden cup and some times, we may give you the same medicine in ceramic cup. We will quote the scripture of any religion to preach the same spiritual concept. We are not bothered about the external material of cup, which is the religion. We are bothered only about the internal material, which is the spiritual knowledge. The word Universal Spirituality means that the spiritual knowledge or medicine is one and the same irrespective of the external religion or cup. We don’t mind to criticize a golden cup if it contains poison. We don’t mind to praise a ceramic cup if it contains medicine. I belong to Hindu religion. That does not mean that I will praise every tradition of my religion. I have the courage to criticize the bad tradition of my religion and reject it. I have the broad mind to praise a good tradition of other religion. When I praise the good tradition of my religion, you should not misunderstand Me that I am a fan of My religion.

If I criticize a bad tradition of My religion, I should not be condemned by you as a critic of My own religion. I praise the chaste sita of My religion but criticize the unchaste Ahalya of My religion, who is the wife of a great ancient sage dressed in saffron cloth with pious garlands of beads. People think that Gautama (husband of Ahalya) cursed her even though she was deceived by Indra, who came in disguise of Gautama. This is wrong. Gautama could see the fact by his super powerful vision. Ahalya met Indra knowing that he is Indra in disguise (Devarajamtu vijnaya…..Ramayana). Kamandalu is a pious vessel of My religion. But, if it contains beer, I will not respect it. Similarly, the chaste Desdimona of a foreign religion is appreciated by Me even though she was the wife of the most ugly black Othello. Her external dress may be western pants and shirts. Because she belongs to other religion and culture, I should not criticize her and I should not praise Ahalaya since she belongs to my religion. There may be a bottle labeled with the word ‘beer’. But, it may contain the divine water of river Ganga. Based on the external label and the glass material of the bottle, I should not say that it contains only beer. Similarly, I may criticize the prostitute of a foreign religion. This does not mean that my criticism is based on the point that she is a foreign lady. You should judge the value based on the internal Samskara that is established by the spiritual knowledge. You should not base your conclusions on the external aspects like region, religion, language, external food habits, external habits of dress and style etc. You should not be fond of the external aspects like religion, culture, nationality, caste, gender, age etc. I belong to the caste of Brahmins but I condemn Ravana, who is a Brahmin and worship Rama, who is a non-Brahmin. I belong to masculine gender. I don’t appreciate Ravana or Duryodhana, who is a man. I praise Sita, who is a woman. I am a old man but I praise Prahalada, who is a boy and condemn Dhrutarastra, who is also a old man. When all the people in the world become the members of Universal Spirituality, the peace will exist everywhere. If the world is peaceful, the stage or the foundation is strong. Therefore, God gives priority to establish this stage or Pravrutti (Dharmasamsthapanaarthayaâ€â€Gita). Nivrutti or pleasing God is the drama that is enacted on this strong stage. If you spoil Pravrutti, God becomes furious with you. In such case, you cannot dream of Nivrutti, which is pleasing the God.

 

[Free]

We are bothered only about the internal material, which is the spiritual knowledge. The word Universal Spirituality means that the spiritual knowledge or medicine is one and the same irrespective of the external religion or cup.

And this statement shows precisely why all major religions are completely irreconcilable: 1) the reason why we need "medicine" is totally different, and 2) what exactly that medicine is, is totally different.

In other words, the fact that we need medicine means that there is a sickness, a problem. In Christianity it is called separation from God because of sin. The medicine of Christianity is that only through believing in the death and resurrection of Jesus, who is God Incarnate, can we be saved.

Hinduism and Buddhism incorrectly teach that we save ourselves. The Bible makes it abundantly clear that we are utterly incapable of saving ourselves. There is no Brahman, no Middle Way, no Eight Fold Path, no samsara, no karma, no yogas, no enlightenment, no moksha, no nirvana.

It is important to remember that Gautama rejected Hinduism and founded Buddhism. This speaks volumes against your position.

We don’t mind to criticize a golden cup if it contains poison.

And once again we come to the main problem of your belief system and the one thing you consistently overlook: according to Christianity, a belief or religion without the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ at it's center, as revealed in the Bible, is poison.

 

[dattaswami]

We are bothered only about the internal material, which is the spiritual knowledge. The word Universal Spirituality means that the spiritual knowledge or medicine is one and the same irrespective of the external religion or cup.

And this statement shows precisely why all major religions are completely irreconcilable: 1) the reason why we need "medicine" is totally different, and 2) what exactly that medicine is, is totally different.

In other words, the fact that we need medicine means that there is a sickness, a problem. In Christianity it is called separation from God because of sin. The medicine of Christianity is that only through believing in the death and resurrection of Jesus, who is God Incarnate, can we be saved......led in the Bible, is poison.

Lord Datta means God given to the world in human form for the upliftment of humanity and hence, He is the highest as far as humanity is concerned from the point of convenience in worship. He is the only means of reaching/serving/pleasing the Lord. Lord Jesus stressed the same when He told ‘I am the only way’ and Lord Krishna said it through ‘Vasudevah Sarvamiti…’ in the Gita. Such, Lord in human form is called the human incarnation.

The ‘I’ in the above statement of Jesus refers to the human incarnation of Lord only, who comes in every generation otherwise, He becomes partial for a generation of people, place and time. The scriptures of both Christianity & Hinduism i.e., Bible and Gita support the human incarnation concept through the statements ‘God-in-flesh and Manushim Tanumaasritam…’ respectively. Even in Islam also, Mohammed is treated as a Prophet, which definitely means, He is above normal human beings because all the human beings are not treated as Prophets.

The worship of such contemporary human incarnation/Prophet gives the highest fruit as in the case of Hanuman (attained the post of future creator), who worshipped Lord Rama and Gopikas (attained Goloka), who worshipped Lord Krishna.

Likewise, the disciples of Mahavir, Jesus, Mohammed Prophet, Buddha, Shankara, Rama Krishna Paramahamsa and Shirdi Sai worshipped the respective human incarnation only as Lord. Worship means not mere words and feelings, but by participating in His mission through service, which consists of donating money & physical service. His mission is only to spread the divine knowledge and devotion in this world and to uplift everybody.

Human birth, urge for salvation and to come in contact with the human incarnation are the three real fortunes and the importance increases from left to right in the order (Manushyatvam, Mumukshatvam, ahapurasha Samsrayah Durlabhamâ€â€Shankara).

 

[LostSoul]

I hope not to cause any offense here. But according to scripture, NONE shall get to the Father (God) save through the Son, Jesus. That in itself prevents unity amongst the religions. Not to mention it would seem nearly impossible without someone having to compromise their faith.

These are just my thoughts. Take them as you will. Again...I appologize for any offense brought on by my words.

May God Bless You

Danielle

 

[dattaswami]

I hope not to cause any offense here. But according to scripture, NONE shall get to the Father (God) save through the Son, Jesus. That in itself prevents unity amongst the religions. Not to mention it would seem nearly impossible without someone having to compromise their faith.

These are just my thoughts. Take them as you will. Again...I appologize for any offense brought on by my words.

May God Bless You

Danielle

The human incarnation is of two components. One is God like radiating sun of knowledge and the other is the soul like the black cloud of ignorance. The sun is covered by the cloud and are very close to each other (Sayuja sakhaya…Veda). Due to cloud sun becomes dim. Due to sun the cloud becomes bright. Now both the sun and cloud are in equilibrium state of equal intensity. Both have become one unit since both are in the equal state of brightness or darkness. The total brightness of this single unit is 99% and total darkness is 1%. Hence, the human incarnation also falls into the grip of a trace of ignorance for a fraction of second. Krishna became angry to kill Bhishma, who is His own devotee, but His anger was just for a moment only and He did not kill Bhishma. Jesus was praying God for a minute to prevent the crucification but immediately He was prepared for it. The dimness of sun or the brightness of the cloud is only relatively real. In absolute reality, the sun in the dim sun is 100% bright and the cloud in the bright cloud is 100% dark. Therefore, really God is not affected by ignorance. Only in the plane of relative reality the dim sun or relative sun is dim.

Since, the dim sun or human incarnation (God in soul) is in this world only, which is relative plane, the dim sun can only suit and not the absolute sun. The cloud is the human being (soul, subtle body and gross body) and is the cover or Upadhi for God to enter this world. This human being in which God exists is called as son of God by Jesus and God is called as the father of heaven. Both are so close that we can treat both as one and the same. The dim sun and bright cloud are one and the same in the intensity of light as well as darkness. This is the meaning of the statement of Jesus “I and My father are one and the sameâ€Â.

Thus, in the relative plane (world) only both are one and the same but in absolute plane God is God and soul is soul simultaneously. People have taken this statement in absolute plane and mistook Jesus. Fearing for the fate of Jesus, Mohammad told that father can never become son. This is true in the absolute plane, which is simultaneously true even in the relative plane. The absolute plane maintains its reality in both the planes. The relative plane maintains its reality only in the relative plane. Therefore, in the relative plane both absolute reality (Advaita) and relative reality (Dwaita) co-exist and are true simultaneously. You must be careful to note that Advaita (dim sun and bright cloud are one and the same) is true in the relative plane (Vyavahara Dasha) where as Dwaita (even in the dim sun, sun is totally bright and even in the bright cloud, cloud is totally dark) is true in the absolute plane (Paramartha Dasha). But the confused Advaitin states Advaita in absolute pane.

 

[LostSoul]

The human incarnation is of two components. One is God like radiating sun of knowledge and the other is the soul like the black cloud of ignorance. The sun is covered by the cloud and are very close to each other (Sayuja sakhaya…Veda). Due to cloud sun becomes dim. Due to sun the cloud becomes bright. Now both the sun and cloud are in equilibrium state of equal intensity. Both have become one unit since both are in the equal state of brightness or darkness. The total brightness of this single unit is 99% and total darkness is 1%. Hence, the human incarnation also falls into the grip of a trace of ignorance for a fraction of second. Krishna became angry to kill Bhishma, who is His own devotee, but His anger was just for a moment only and He did not kill Bhishma. Jesus was praying God for a minute to prevent the crucification but immediately He was prepared for it. The dimness of sun or the brightness of the cloud is only relatively real. In absolute reality, the sun in the dim sun is 100% bright and the cloud in the bright cloud is 100% dark. Therefore, really God is not affected by ignorance. Only in the plane of relative reality the dim sun or relative sun is dim.

Since, the dim sun or human incarnation (God in soul) is in this world only, which is relative plane, the dim sun can only suit and not the absolute sun. The cloud is the human being (soul, subtle body and gross body) and is the cover or Upadhi for God to enter this world. This human being in which God exists is called as son of God by Jesus and God is called as the father of heaven. Both are so close that we can treat both as one and the same. The dim sun and bright cloud are one and the same in the intensity of light as well as darkness. This is the meaning of the statement of Jesus “I and My father are one and the sameâ€Â.

Thus, in the relative plane (world) only both are one and the same but in absolute plane God is God and soul is soul simultaneously. People have taken this statement in absolute plane and mistook Jesus. Fearing for the fate of Jesus, Mohammad told that father can never become son. This is true in the absolute plane, which is simultaneously true even in the relative plane. The absolute plane maintains its reality in both the planes. The relative plane maintains its reality only in the relative plane. Therefore, in the relative plane both absolute reality (Advaita) and relative reality (Dwaita) co-exist and are true simultaneously. You must be careful to note that Advaita (dim sun and bright cloud are one and the same) is true in the relative plane (Vyavahara Dasha) where as Dwaita (even in the dim sun, sun is totally bright and even in the bright cloud, cloud is totally dark) is true in the absolute plane (Paramartha Dasha). But the confused Advaitin states Advaita in absolute pane.

Dattaswami,

I am sorry but it is doubtful the whole world will see things as any one person would. Everyone interprets things differently and has their own point of view and beliefs, along with morals. This in a way is why unity of religions just is not possible. Not to mention as I said before...it would mean the compromising of someone's beliefs.

For example: Do I believe Jesus is an incarnation of God?

Answer: No.

To have any one person tell me that this is what I am to believe would be my compromising what I have come to know and believe because another wants me to. Though you may share some views with me, or not....unification of all religion would be rather devestating. Seeing as there are various religions that do not believe in the same God.

May God Bless You

Danielle

 

[oneisgod]

Unity of Religions

The correlation of the scriptures of various religions was done in a detailed way by several prophets who aimed at the world peace. Even I have done this correlation in major topics like human rebirth, concept of human incarnation etc. The effect of such correlation is not much because the devotees of various religions are neither influenced by the unity of the scriptures nor by the unity of human beings having the same bodies of matter and energy externally and the internal souls made of the same pure awareness.

Scriptures are the concepts given by various forms of God. Devotees feel that these forms of God are totally different from each other. Unless you bring the correlation of the various forms of God belonging to different religions, the problem is not solved in the root. You have to come from top to bottom in the solution for difference. The correlation of unity in the scriptures and in the human beings is an attempt of solving the problem from bottom to top. If you can prove the unity of the forms of God and establish the concept of single God in various religions, the scriptures have to be correlated forcibly because one God cannot speak contradicting concepts in various religions.

Like this if you come from the top for the solution, there is always a tremendous binding force acting on the heads of devotees to correlate the scriptures. Even if some little variations exist in the scriptures, they have to be unified by force in the light of unity of God, who is the single speaker of various scriptures.

This can never happen as there is only one true faith:-

Ephesians 4:4-6
One body there is, and one spirit, even as YOU were called in the one hope to which YOU were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all [persons], who is over all and through all and in all.

 

[duval]

In Jn.17 Jesus prayed for the oneness of His believers only.

God bless
duval

 

[oneisgod]

In Jn.17 Jesus prayed for the oneness of His believers only.

God bless
duval

That is my point:-

1 Timothy 2:5-6
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself a corresponding ransom for allâ€â€[this is] what is to be witnessed to at its own particular times.

1 Corinthians 8:4-6
Now concerning the eating of foods offered to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is no God but one. 5 For even though there are those who are called “gods,†whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods†and many “lords,†6 there is actually to us one God the Father, [/u]out of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are, and we through him.

Isaiah 64:8
And now, O Jehovah, you are our Father.. . .

Among his worshipers.

As the name Jesus means:-
THE NAME OF JESUS THE SON OF GOD
"The name Jesus is not strictly a title for the person who bore it. It is, however, a name with a meaning, being a Greek form of Joshua, i.e. Yahweh (Jehovah) is salvation. The NT writers were well aware of this meaning (Mt 1:21). The name thus indicated the function which was ascribed to Jesus, and this later found expression of the function of Jesus, and this later found expression in the title Saviour, which was at first simply a description of the function of Jesus (Acts 5:31; 13:21: Phil 3:20) but then became part of his solemn title (2 Tim 1:10; Tit 1:4; 2 Pet 1:11). Jesus was the personal name of the saviour, and while its titular significance remains present for informed hearers, it is probable that to many people it is now no more than a name (compare how the fact that John means gift of God is not usually in mind when the name is used)."-'NEW BIBLE DICTIONARY' p.584

 

[dattaswami]

Oneness of God of different religions

Every religion says that its God created the entire earth and entire humanity. But, unfortunately there is only one earth containing this humanity. Due to one earth, there must be one God only and hence all the religions are calling the same God by different names. Since the God is unimaginable and nobody can even imagine Him, all the names are indicating that unseen and unimaginable God only. This unimaginable God is mediated by energy. Such mediated God is also one and the same because energy is also one and the same for all religions. This mediated God is called as Brahman by Hinduism, Jehovah by Christianity and Allah by Islam. The absolute unimaginable God as well as the medium [Energy] are one and the same and hence there is no difference between these three names.

Of course, when the absolute God gets mediated by human bodies, there may be minute difference in the form, culture and language of the external human form as in the case of Krishna of Hinduism, Jesus of Christianity and Mohammad of Islam. Even here the material of the human body is one and the same except slight variation in the external form. From the point of absolute God, here also there is no trace of difference and hence all these three human forms are also one and the same.

 

[oneisgod]

Re: Oneness of God of different religions

Every religion says that its God created the entire earth and entire humanity. But, unfortunately there is only one earth containing this humanity. Due to one earth, there must be one God only and hence all the religions are calling the same God by different names. Since the God is unimaginable and nobody can even imagine Him, all the names are indicating that unseen and unimaginable God only. This unimaginable God is mediated by energy. Such mediated God is also one and the same because energy is also one and the same for all religions. This mediated God is called as Brahman by Hinduism, Jehovah by Christianity and Allah by Islam. The absolute unimaginable God as well as the medium [Energy] are one and the same and hence there is no difference between these three names.

Of course, when the absolute God gets mediated by human bodies, there may be minute difference in the form, culture and language of the external human form as in the case of Krishna of Hinduism, Jesus of Christianity and Mohammad of Islam. Even here the material of the human body is one and the same except slight variation in the external form. From the point of absolute God, here also there is no trace of difference and hence all these three human forms are also one and the same.

The Bible doeas not say there is just one God, e.g. Satan is called a "god" as he blinds people to the truth of The Bible:-

2 Corinthians 4:3-4
If, now, the good news we declare is in fact veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, 4 among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.

This is reinfoced by the followin showing Satan The Devil rules thie world and not The God of Jesus:-

1 John 5:19
We know we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one.

In fact the Bible goes on the say:-

1 Corinthians 8:5
For even though there are those who are called “gods,†whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods†and many “lords,¢â‚¬Â

 

[dattaswami]

Re: Oneness of God of different religions

1 John 5:19
We know we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one.

In fact the Bible goes on the say:-

1 Corinthians 8:5
For even though there are those who are called “gods,†whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods†and many “lords,â€Â

The same Lord came to different parts of the world in different age to preach the same Divine Knowledge. All the scriptures of the world are the records of the knowledge given by the same Lord and hence cannot contradict each other. Yet we find sometimes that there are some glaring contradictions between different scriptures of the world. This is in part due to fact that the Lord taught the same truth in different ages and places in a slightly different way, so as to suit the culture and language of the people. This is only an extraneous difference. The essential knowledge is the same. Correct interpretation will remove the contradiction.
Sometimes there may be an apparent difference even in the essential meaning.

In such as case the inconsistency is probably caused by corruption of the scripture over generations. Comparison with other scriptures of the world will help in removing the corrupted portions in each scripture. Here it becomes essential to bring in experience as a prama?a or a valid means of knowledge. While comparing contradictory views in different scriptures, the view which agrees with experience or anubhuti should be taken as correct.

 

[Bad Rabbit]

Today all religions of world exist – in India, Datta unites them.
Now let India stand as spiritual guide – for all religions in world
To unite all citizens of the world – to achieve world peace.
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This 'spiritual guide', plus 3 dollars, will buy you a nice cup of coffee.

If you could be bothered, Dattaswami, to actually read a few holy books, let's say, the Bible and the Koran, you will know that no peace can ever exist between Christianity and Islam. The Bible says that Jesus was the son of God and that everlasting life can only be attained by submission to him. The Koran says that everyone who believes that Jesus was divine will spend eternity in hell.
Sort of a deal-breaker, n’est ce pas ?

Your wish to achieve 'world peace' is very nice though.
I have only heard that wish expressed about five thousand times, usually by some young lady in a bikini with a tiara on her head, whose already limited cranial capacities were further reduced by the toxic effects of excessive peroxide use.

 

[Barabas]

Your wish to achieve 'world peace' is very nice though.
I have only heard that wish expressed about five thousand times, usually by some young lady in a bikini with a tiara on her head, whose already limited cranial capacities were further reduced by the toxic effects of excessive peroxide use.

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