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Vile prophet of Islam and vile prophets of the Bible?

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Soma-Sight

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Mohhamad did some vile things as exposed by Gary bee.

But is this any different from certain Bible prophets and heros?


PROPHETS BUT NAKED !

[Gen 9:21]
Noah drank of the wine, and became drunk, and lay uncovered in his tent.
and Ham [his son] saw the NAKEDNESS of his father.

[1 Sam. 19:23]
And the spirit of God came upon Saul.. And he too STRIPPED OFF HIS
CLOTHES, and he too prophesied before Samuel and lay NAKED all the day
and all the night.

[2 Sam. 6:20]
David DANCES NAKED before the people and before the Lord.

[Exo. 15:20]
And so his sister Mariam the Prophetess dances, she took a tremble and
dances with the women.

FORNICATORS !

[Judg. 14:19]
And the spirit of God came upon Samson, he killed thirty men.

[Judg. 15:5]
And he burned up the shocks and the standing grain as well as the olive
orchards...

[Judg. 16:1]
And he went to Gaza, and there he saw a HARLOT, and he went into her.

LOT'S DAUGHTERS COMMIT INCEST WITH HIM !

[Gen. 19:30]
Lot went up out of Zo'ar and dwelt in the hills with his two daughters.
And the first-born said to the younger, "Our father is old, and there is
not a man on earth to come to us after the manner of all the earth.
COME LET US MAKE OUR FATHER DRINK WINE AND WE WILL LIE WITH HIM, that we
may preserve offspring through our father. So they made their father drink
wine that night; AND THE FIRST BORN WENT IN AND LAY WITH HER FATHER; HE
DID NOT KNOW WHEN SHE LAY DOWN OR WHEN SHE AROSE.

And on the next day, the first-born said to the younger "Behold, I lay
last night with my father, let us make him drink wine tonight also; then
you go in and lie with him that we may preserve offspring through our
father.
So they made their father drink wine that night also, and the younger
arose, and LAY WITH HIM; and he did not know when she lay down or when
she arose. THUS BOTH THE DAUGHTERS OF LOT WERE WITH CHILD BY THEIR FATHER.

JUDAH WITH HIS DAUGHTER-IN-LAW

Judah fornicates with his daughter-in-law: Ta'-mar.

[Gen. 38:15]
When he saw her, he thought her to be a harlot, for she had covered
her face. He went over to her at the road side and said "Come, LET ME
COME INTO YOU" for he did not know that she was his daughter-in-law.
She said, "What will you give me, that you may come into me?" He
answered, "I will send you a kid from the flock." And she said "Will
you send me a pledge till you send it?" He said, "What pledge shall I
give you?" She replied "Your signal and your cord and your staff that
is in your hand."

So he gave them to her, and WENT INTO HER, and she conceived by him.
About three months later, Judah was told, "Ta'-mar your daughter-in-
law has played the harlot, and moreover SHE IS WITH CHILD BY HARLOTRY.


DAVID WITH HIS NEIGHBOUR'S WIFE

[2.Sam. 11:1]
David arose from his couch and was walking upon the roof that he saw
from the roof a WOMAN BATHING; and the woman was very beautiful, and
David sent and enquired about the woman. And one said, "Is not that
Bathshe'ba, the daughter of Eli'am, the wife of Uri'ah the Hittite?"

So David send messengers and took her, and SHE CAME TO HIM AND HE
LAY WITH HER.. Then she returned to her house; and she sent and told
David, I am with child. David called her husband, and invited him,
and ate in his presence and drank, so that he made him drunk. In the
morning David wrote to Jo'ab, "Set Uri'ah in the forefront of the
hardest fighting, and then draw back from him, that he may be struck
down and die.
When he died David sent and brought Uri'ah's wife to his house, and
she became his wife.

GOD PUNISHES DAVID

[2.Sam. 12:10]
The Lord said to David, "Because you despised me, and have taken the
wife of Uri'ah the Hittite to be your wife.
Thus say the Lord, "Behold, I will take your wives (He punished David
through his daughter and son not his wife as you will see) before your
eyes, and give them to your neighbour and he shall lie with your wives
in the sight of this sun."

DAVID'S SON WITH HIS SISTER


[2.Sam. 13:1] Amnon the son of David fell in love with his sister Ta'-mar.
"Amnon was so tormented that he made himself ill because of his sister
Ta'-mar; for she was a virgin, and it seemed impossible to Amnon to do
anything to her.
Amnon had a friend who said to him, "Lie down on your bed and pretend to
be ill, and when [your father] the king comes to see you, you say to him:
let my sister Ta'-mar come and give bread to eat from her hand. David sent
Ta'-mar to her brother and ordered her to feed her brother by her hand.

Ta'-mar took the cakes she had made, and brought them into the chamber to
Amnon, but when she brought them near him to eat, he took hold of her,
and said to her, "Come, lie with me, my sister", she said, "No my brother,
do not force me." But he would not listen to her; and being stronger than
she, he forced her, and lay with her."

GET FOR YOURSELF A HARLOT !!!


[Hos. 1:2]
When the Lord first spoke to Hose'a he said to him, "GO TAKE TO YOURSELF
A WIFE OF HARLOTRY and have children of harlotry, for the land has
committed great harlotry by forsaking the Lord."


[Gen. 35:22]
Rueben the son of Jacob lay with Bilhah his father's concubine.

[Gen. 49:4]
His father blamed him and said, "Because you went up to your father's
bed, then you defiled it, you went up to my couch.

PAGAN PROPHETS !!!

[1 King 11:3]
Solomon had seven hundred wives princesses and three hundred concubines;
and his wives turned his heart after other Gods.... the Goddess of the
Sido'nians.

AARON BUILT THE CALF !


[Exo. 32:2]
Aaron said to people of Israel, "take off the rings of Gold which are
in the ears of your wives, your sons and your daughters. So they took
off the rings of gold, and brought them to Aaron. And he received the
golf at their hand and fashioned it with a graving tool and made a
molten calf and they said, "These are your Gods, O Israel, who brought
you up out of the land of Egypt."
 
You miss the point

You miss the point.

Muhammad claims to be someone you follow/copy.

No OT prophet made that claim.

Muhammad claimed to be "the seal of the prophets"

No OT prophet made that claim.

Who you need to compare is Muhammad and Jesus. Who is the true "seal of the prophets"? Do you even understand what that claim means?

:roll:

P.S. SomaSite, don't be like most Muslims and copy-n-paste without quoting.... that is plagiarism. Quote your sources. Your copy-n-paste was from http://www.islamawareness.net/Christianity/inbible.html

You seem to enjoy false prophets. First White, now Muhammad!

:)
 
Soma-Sight said:
Mohhamad did some vile things as exposed by Gary bee.

But is this any different from certain Bible prophets and heros?


PROPHETS BUT NAKED !

[Gen 9:21]
Noah drank of the wine, and became drunk, and lay uncovered in his tent.
and Ham [his son] saw the NAKEDNESS of his father.

[1 Sam. 19:23]
And the spirit of God came upon Saul.. And he too STRIPPED OFF HIS
CLOTHES, and he too prophesied before Samuel and lay NAKED all the day
and all the night.

[2 Sam. 6:20]
David DANCES NAKED before the people and before the Lord.

[Exo. 15:20]
And so his sister Mariam the Prophetess dances, she took a tremble and
dances with the women.

FORNICATORS !

[Judg. 14:19]
And the spirit of God came upon Samson, he killed thirty men.

[Judg. 15:5]
And he burned up the shocks and the standing grain as well as the olive
orchards...

[Judg. 16:1]
And he went to Gaza, and there he saw a HARLOT, and he went into her.

LOT'S DAUGHTERS COMMIT INCEST WITH HIM !

[Gen. 19:30]
Lot went up out of Zo'ar and dwelt in the hills with his two daughters.
And the first-born said to the younger, "Our father is old, and there is
not a man on earth to come to us after the manner of all the earth.
COME LET US MAKE OUR FATHER DRINK WINE AND WE WILL LIE WITH HIM, that we
may preserve offspring through our father. So they made their father drink
wine that night; AND THE FIRST BORN WENT IN AND LAY WITH HER FATHER; HE
DID NOT KNOW WHEN SHE LAY DOWN OR WHEN SHE AROSE.

And on the next day, the first-born said to the younger "Behold, I lay
last night with my father, let us make him drink wine tonight also; then
you go in and lie with him that we may preserve offspring through our
father.
So they made their father drink wine that night also, and the younger
arose, and LAY WITH HIM; and he did not know when she lay down or when
she arose. THUS BOTH THE DAUGHTERS OF LOT WERE WITH CHILD BY THEIR FATHER.

JUDAH WITH HIS DAUGHTER-IN-LAW

Judah fornicates with his daughter-in-law: Ta'-mar.

[Gen. 38:15]
When he saw her, he thought her to be a harlot, for she had covered
her face. He went over to her at the road side and said "Come, LET ME
COME INTO YOU" for he did not know that she was his daughter-in-law.
She said, "What will you give me, that you may come into me?" He
answered, "I will send you a kid from the flock." And she said "Will
you send me a pledge till you send it?" He said, "What pledge shall I
give you?" She replied "Your signal and your cord and your staff that
is in your hand."

So he gave them to her, and WENT INTO HER, and she conceived by him.
About three months later, Judah was told, "Ta'-mar your daughter-in-
law has played the harlot, and moreover SHE IS WITH CHILD BY HARLOTRY.


DAVID WITH HIS NEIGHBOUR'S WIFE

[2.Sam. 11:1]
David arose from his couch and was walking upon the roof that he saw
from the roof a WOMAN BATHING; and the woman was very beautiful, and
David sent and enquired about the woman. And one said, "Is not that
Bathshe'ba, the daughter of Eli'am, the wife of Uri'ah the Hittite?"

So David send messengers and took her, and SHE CAME TO HIM AND HE
LAY WITH HER.. Then she returned to her house; and she sent and told
David, I am with child. David called her husband, and invited him,
and ate in his presence and drank, so that he made him drunk. In the
morning David wrote to Jo'ab, "Set Uri'ah in the forefront of the
hardest fighting, and then draw back from him, that he may be struck
down and die.
When he died David sent and brought Uri'ah's wife to his house, and
she became his wife.

GOD PUNISHES DAVID

[2.Sam. 12:10]
The Lord said to David, "Because you despised me, and have taken the
wife of Uri'ah the Hittite to be your wife.
Thus say the Lord, "Behold, I will take your wives (He punished David
through his daughter and son not his wife as you will see) before your
eyes, and give them to your neighbour and he shall lie with your wives
in the sight of this sun."

DAVID'S SON WITH HIS SISTER


[2.Sam. 13:1] Amnon the son of David fell in love with his sister Ta'-mar.
"Amnon was so tormented that he made himself ill because of his sister
Ta'-mar; for she was a virgin, and it seemed impossible to Amnon to do
anything to her.
Amnon had a friend who said to him, "Lie down on your bed and pretend to
be ill, and when [your father] the king comes to see you, you say to him:
let my sister Ta'-mar come and give bread to eat from her hand. David sent
Ta'-mar to her brother and ordered her to feed her brother by her hand.

Ta'-mar took the cakes she had made, and brought them into the chamber to
Amnon, but when she brought them near him to eat, he took hold of her,
and said to her, "Come, lie with me, my sister", she said, "No my brother,
do not force me." But he would not listen to her; and being stronger than
she, he forced her, and lay with her."

GET FOR YOURSELF A HARLOT !!!


[Hos. 1:2]
When the Lord first spoke to Hose'a he said to him, "GO TAKE TO YOURSELF
A WIFE OF HARLOTRY and have children of harlotry, for the land has
committed great harlotry by forsaking the Lord."


[Gen. 35:22]
Rueben the son of Jacob lay with Bilhah his father's concubine.

[Gen. 49:4]
His father blamed him and said, "Because you went up to your father's
bed, then you defiled it, you went up to my couch.

PAGAN PROPHETS !!!

[1 King 11:3]
Solomon had seven hundred wives princesses and three hundred concubines;
and his wives turned his heart after other Gods.... the Goddess of the
Sido'nians.

AARON BUILT THE CALF !


[Exo. 32:2]
Aaron said to people of Israel, "take off the rings of Gold which are
in the ears of your wives, your sons and your daughters. So they took
off the rings of gold, and brought them to Aaron. And he received the
golf at their hand and fashioned it with a graving tool and made a
molten calf and they said, "These are your Gods, O Israel, who brought
you up out of the land of Egypt."

Your list contains one prophet. Guess who?
And, after you guess correctly, read his entire book and you will know why he did what he did and who asked him to do it.
Good luck to you.
 
LOL... so true! Poor Muhammad knew so little about Judaism... he thought that any man NAMED in the Bible (and who Muhammad heard about) has to be a prophet.

P.S. SomaSite is not Muslim. He is a New Age Fundy with a SDA bent. Really quite a confused puppy. He copy-n-pastes ANYTHING as long as it is anti-Christian.

:)
 
Your list contains one prophet. Guess who?
And, after you guess correctly, read his entire book and you will know why he did what he did and who asked him to do it.
Good luck to you.

I said prophets AND Heroes.....
 
I just wanted to make a comment about the whole David dancing naked... He did not dance naked, look back at verse 14.... He wore something called a linen ephod, which was priestly attire. The reason why Micahl said that is because David was a king and he was not in his royal attire. She also despised him(v.16), so i think she would have said anything to get back at David.

That's all i wanted to say though, don't really know what this thread is about, don't care honestly.... Soma posted it...... Soma and I do not see things the same.
 
Gary said:
LOL... so true! Poor Muhammad knew so little about Judaism... he thought that any man NAMED in the Bible (and who Muhammad heard about) has to be a prophet.

P.S. SomaSite is not Muslim. He is a New Age Fundy with a SDA bent. Really quite a confused puppy. He copy-n-pastes ANYTHING as long as it is anti-Christian.

:)

A little knowledge, like a little cancer, can be deadly. He is not muslim? That has to feel good.
SDA's are generally not anti-Christ. But, I'll buy the fundy.
Redwolf :wink:
 
Soma-Sight said:
Your list contains one prophet. Guess who?
And, after you guess correctly, read his entire book and you will know why he did what he did and who asked him to do it.
Good luck to you.

I said prophets AND Heroes.....

My apologies for not seeing the heros. Now, why don't you tell me your reason for holding these perfectly imperfect people up to ridicule?

Do you know much about Mahomet? That holy man pedophile, murderer, rapist, terrorist, and so on? Who's shadow hangs over this world with bloody intent?
Be careful of your comparisons.
I mean that kindly.
 
Re: You miss the point

Gary said:
P.S. SomaSite, don't be like most Muslims and copy-n-paste without quoting.... that is plagiarism. Quote your sources. Your copy-n-paste was from http://www.islamawareness.net/Christianity/inbible.html



In the thread, "Jesus Christ versus the Buddha"-
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=21196


Gary said:
:roll: Identical Teachings?? :roll:

Yeah right!!! Come on Soma-sight, use your God-given brain. :bday: :bday:

(1) "Do to others as you would have them do to you." (Luke 6:31)

"Consider others as yourself." (Dhammapada 10:1)

Not the same. Read it and work it out for yourself!!

(2) "If anyone strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also." (Luke 6:29)

"If anyone should give you a blow with his hand, with a stick, or with a knife, you should abandon any desires and utter no evil words." (Majjhima Nikaya 21:6)

Not the same. Jesus was talking about an insult and not a physical attack!!

(3) "Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. From anyone who takes away your coat do not withhold even your shirt. Give to everyone who begs from you; and if anyone takes away your goods, do not ask for them back." (Luke 6:27-30)

"Hatreds do not ever cease in this world by hating, but by love: this is an eternal truth. Overcome anger by love, overcome evil by good ... Overcome the miser by giving, overcome the liar by truth." (Dhammapada 1.5 & 17.3)

Not the same. Where does Buddha suggest that you (a) "bless those who curse you" or (b) "pray for those who abuse you" ????

(4) "Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me." (Matthew 25:45)

"If you do not tend one another, then who is there to tend to you? Whoever would tend me, he should tend the sick." (Vinaya, Mahavagga 8:26:3)

Not the same. Jesus was not talking about "one another" but those who are NOT like you, strangers!!

(5) "Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take the sword shall perish by the sword." (Matthew 26:52)

"Abandoning the taking of life, the ascetic Gautama dwells refraining from taking life, without stick or sword." (Digha Nikaya 1:1:8)

Not the same. Buddha's saying results in vegiterian thinking... and avoiding stepping on ants!!

(6) "This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. No one has greater love than this, to lay down one's life for one's friend." (John 15:12-13)

"Just as a mother would protect her only child at the risk of her own life, even so, cultivate a boundless heart towards all beings. Let your thoughts of boundless love pervade the whole world." (Sutta Nipata 149-150)

Not the same. Jesus said: "Copy me and my love for you; Buddha's example is a mother's love for a child. Very different!!

(7) "Grace and truth came through Jesus Christ." (John 1:17)

"The body of the Buddha is born of love, patience, gentleness and truth." (Vimalakirtinirdesha Sutra 2)

We have already seen that what Buddha said was not always "truth". John says that truth "came through" Jesus Christ.

(8) "The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed that someone took and sowed in his field; it is the smallest of all the seeds, but when it has grown it is the greatest of shrubs and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and make nests in its branches." (Matthew 13:31-32)

"Do not underestimate good, thinking it will not affect you. Dripping water can fill a pitcher, drop by drop; one who is wise is filled with good, even if one accumulates it little by little." (Dhammapada 9:7)

Not the same. Jesus was talking about "the kingdom of heaven"!!

(9) "Why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye? Or how can you say to your neighbor, "Friend, let me take the speck out of your eye," when you yourself do not see the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor's eye." (Luke 6:41-42)

"The faults of others are easier to see than one's own; the faults of others are easily seen, for they are sifted like chaff, but one's own faults are hard to see. This is like the cheat who hides his dice and shows the dice of his opponent, calling attention to the other's shortcomings, continually thinking of accusing him." (Undanavarga 27:1)

Not the same. Jesus tells you what to do about hypocricy, Buddha does not!!

(10) "They said to him, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the very act of committing adultery. Now in the law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?" He said to them, "Let anyone among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her." (John 8:4-7)

"Do not look at the faults of others, or what others have done or not done; observe what you yourself have done and have not done." (Dhammapada 4:7)

Not the same. Misuse of Scripture by only selecting a part-quote. Jesus still instructed the woman "Go now and leave your life of sin" John 8:11

(11) "Your eye is the lamp of your body. If your eye is healthy your whole body is full of light; but if it is not healthy, your body is full of darkness. Therefore consider whether the light in you is full of darkness. If then your whole body is full of light, with no part of it in darkness, it will be as full of light as when a lamp gives you light with its rays." (Luke 11:34-36)

"As a man with eyes who carries a lamp sees all objects, so too with one who has heard the Moral Law. He will become perfectly wise." (Udanavarga 22:4)

Not the same. Jesus was talking about the "internal light"... NOT a lamp which is carried :roll:

(12) "Your father in heaven makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the righteous and on the unrighteous." (Matthew 5:45)

"That great cloud rains down on all whether their nature is superior or inferior. The light of the sun and the moon illuminates the whole world, both him who does well and him who does ill, both him who stands high and him who stands low." (Sadharmapundarika Sutra 5)

Not the same. Jesus was talking about the "righteous and the unrighteous", Buddha was speaking about "superior and inferior".

(13) "Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God." (Luke 6:20)

"Let us live most happily, possessing nothing; let us feed on joy, like the radiant gods." (Dhammapada 15:4)

Misuse of Scripture. Not the same. Jesus was talking about those who are "poor in spirit"... read Matthew 5:3.

(14) "If you wish to be perfect, go sell your possessions, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven." (Matthew 19:21)

"The avaricious do not go to heaven, the foolish do not extol charity. The wise one, however, rejoicing in charity, becomes thereby happy in the beyond." (Dhammapada 13:11)

Misuse of Scripture. Jesus had highlighted the Rich Young Man's real "god", his money. This is NOT about charity, it is about the cost of following our Lord Jesus Christ.

(15) "He looked up and saw rich people putting their gifts into the treasury; he saw a poor widow put in two small copper coins. He said, "Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put in more than all of them; for all of them have contributed out of their abundance, but she out of her poverty has put in all she had to live on." (Luke 21:1-4)

"Giving is the noble expression of the benevolence of the mighty. Even dust, given in childish innocence, is a good gift. No gift that is given in good faith to a worthy recipient can be called small; it effects us so great." (Jatakamala 3:23)

Not the same. Jesus was teaching about how MUCH we give in relation to how much we have.

(16) "Everyone who lives and believes in me will never die." (John 11:26)

"Those who have sufficient faith in me, sufficient love for me, are all headed for heaven or beyond." (Majjhima Nikaya 22:47)

Not the same. Jesus was also teaching about living IN Him. Read it again. "Everyone who lives and believes in me ....

(17) "Those who want to save their life will lose it, and those who lose their life for my sake will save it." (Mark 8:35)

"With the relinquishing of all thought and egotism, the enlightened one is liberated through not clinging." (Majjhima Nikaya 72:15)

Not the same. Jesus was teaching about living FOR Him; losing your life FOR HIS SAKE. Read it again.

(18) "Foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head." (Matthew 8:20)

"The thoughtful exert themselves; they do not delight in an abode. Like swans who have left their lake they leave their house and home." (Majjhima Nikaya)

Not the same. Jesus was teaching about the cost of following Him. Read the verse in context: Matthew 8:18-20

(19) "When the devil had finished every test, he departed from him until an opportune time." (Luke 4:13)

"During the six years that the Bodhisattva practiced austerities, the demon followed behind him step by step, seeking an opportunity to harm him. But he found no opportunity whatsoever and went away discouraged and discontent." (Lalitavistara Sutra 18)

Not the same. The devil departed from Jesus and waited for "an opportune time"... remember Judas and also the cross?

(20) "Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God." (Matthew 5:8)

"Anyone who enters into meditation on compassion can see Brahma with his own eyes, talk to him face to face and consult with him." (Digha Nikaya 19:43)

Not the same. "Pure in heart" is NOT only about "compassion".


(21) "Although the doors were shut, Jesus came and stood among them." (John 20:26)

"He goes unhindered through a wall." (Anugattara Nikaya 3:60)

Not the same. Was Buddha resurrected? Did he rise from the dead?

(22) "And after six days Jesus takes with him Peter, and James, and John, and leads them up into a high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them. And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them." (Mark 9:2-3)

"Ananda, having arranged one set of golden robes on the body of the Lord, observed that against the Lord's body it appeared dulled. And he said, "It is wonderful, Lord, it is marvelous how clear and bright the Lord's skin appears! It looks even brighter than the golden robes in which it is clothed." (Digha Nikaya 16:4:37)

Not the same. Jesus was tranfigured.

:) :D :) :D :)


It seems that you are responding to an article which you failed to reference. It looks like you are guilty of plagiarism Gary. :)
 
Gary said:
Wrong again DN. SomoSite copy-n-pasted. I responded.

:) :D


Where is your reference Gary?

If you don't have a reference then you are guilty of plagiarism. If Soma-Sight was also guilty of plagiarism in that thread that doesn't help you at all. :D
 
DUH... I took his post and responded to it. Quit your usual red herrings.

:)
 
Gary said:
DUH... I took his post and responded to it. Quit your usual red herrings.

:)


Soma-Sight said:
Jesus Christ

Everyone who believes in me will never die.

John 11.26


Buddha

Those who have sufficient faith in me, sufficient love for me, are all headed for heaven or beyond.

Majjhima Nikaya 22.47


Jesus Chirst

The good news of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the world, as a testimony to all the nations; and then the end will come.

Matt 24.14


Buddha

I will not experience final nirvana until I have disciples who are knowers of the dharma and who will pass on what they have gained from their Teachers, declare it and teach the dharma of wondrous effect


Jesus Christ

Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheeps clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Matt 7.15


What good is hide clothing? While your inward state is a tangle, you polish your exterior.

Dhammapada 26.12


Jesus Christ

That evening they brought to him many who were possessed with demons; and he cast out the spirits with a word, and cured those who were sick.

Matt 8.16


Buddha

The venerable Kassapa was sick and afflicted, stricken with a sore disease. The Buddha spoke to him and Kassapa was delighted. Then and there he arose in his sickness and abandoned it.

Samyutta Nikaya 46.14


This was the post of Soma-Sight. That isn't what you responded to. Not unless Soma-Sight changed his post...
 
(a) Are you guilty of plagiarism?

(b) Did Soma-Sight change his post?


Which is it Gary?
 
(c) A Mod deleted the original post by SomaSite. Ask Soma what happened to his original copy-n-paste. Soma opened the thread with several copy-n-paste. I took one and rebutted it. Get it yet?

(d) You attempt (as usual) to red-herring this thread

My take? Both (c) and (d) are true.

:D
 
Gary said:
(c) A Mod deleted the original post by SomaSite. Ask Soma what happened to his original copy-n-paste. Soma opened the thread with several copy-n-paste. I took one and rebutted it. Get it yet?

(d) You attempt (as usual) to red-herring this thread

My take? Both (c) and (d) are true.

:D

Fair enough, I accept that you didn't commit plagiarism. I apologize for making the accusation. Although you have been caught doing it before... :)

And no, I haven't here, or "as usual", introduced a red herring. (Perhaps you should look up what the term means...)
 
Red herring king

... LOL... YOU don't know what a "red herring" is... LOL...

Yeah, right!

:bday: :bday:
 
Re: Red herring king

Gary said:
... LOL... YOU don't know what a "red herring" is... LOL...

Yeah, right!

:bday: :bday:


You obviously don't. :D (lol)
 
Red herring king DN gets his own medicine

Please explain in your own words... (make it LONG!)
 
Re: Red herring king DN gets his own medicine

Gary said:
Please explain in your own words... (make it LONG!)

No, I will just give a couple of quotes and links-

"A Red Herring is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic..."

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacie ... rring.html

"a "red herring" argument is one which distracts the audience from the issue in question through the introduction of some irrelevancy..."

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/redherrf.html


Do you dispute the definitions given? Or how did I commit the fallacy?


My intention in making the accusation of plagiarism had NOTHING to do with trying to divert attention away from the issue (or any issue) being discussed in the thread, to influence that debate in any way, to actually participate in that debate. I wasn't interested in it at all. (The issue of Bible prophets and heroes doing bad stuff... Soma-Sight made a comparison with the behaviour of Muhammad.)
 
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