Bible Study Was Jesus forsaken on the cross?

[dianegcook]

Matt.27:46
And about the 9th hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying,Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? That is to say, My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?

I have heard different theories concerning this, thus, wanted some of your thoughts on this matter.

Some say God had to turn His back to sin, and so forth.

I will give my thoughts later, that is, if anyone wants to respond.

 

[Sinthesis]

Psa 22:1 ¶ [[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?
Psa 22:2 - O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.
Psa 22:3 - But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.
Psa 22:4 - Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.
Psa 22:5 - They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded.
Psa 22:6 - But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.
Psa 22:7 - All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,
Psa 22:8 - He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.
Psa 22:9 - But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.
Psa 22:10 - I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.
Psa 22:11 - Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.
Psa 22:12 - Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.
Psa 22:13 - They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.
Psa 22:14 - I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.
Psa 22:15 - My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.
Psa 22:16 - For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Psa 22:17 - I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
Psa 22:18 - They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
Psa 22:19 - But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
Psa 22:20 - Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
Psa 22:21 - Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.
Psa 22:22 - I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.
Psa 22:23 - Ye that fear the LORD, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.
Psa 22:24 - For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard.
Psa 22:25 - My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him.
Psa 22:26 - The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the LORD that seek him: your heart shall live for ever.
Psa 22:27 - All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.
Psa 22:28 - For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and he is the governor among the nations.
Psa 22:29 - All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.
Psa 22:30 - A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.
Psa 22:31 - They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.

 

[th1b.taylor]

Psa 22:1 ¶ [[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?
Psa 22:2 - O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.
Psa 22:3 - But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.
Psa 22:4 - Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.
Psa 22:5 - They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded.
Psa 22:6 - But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.
Psa 22:7 - All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,
Psa 22:8 - He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.
Psa 22:9 - But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.
Psa 22:10 - I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.
Psa 22:11 - Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.
Psa 22:12 - Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.
Psa 22:13 - They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.
Psa 22:14 - I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.
Psa 22:15 - My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.
Psa 22:16 - For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Psa 22:17 - I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
Psa 22:18 - They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
Psa 22:19 - But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
Psa 22:20 - Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
Psa 22:21 - Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.
Psa 22:22 - I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.
Psa 22:23 - Ye that fear the LORD, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.
Psa 22:24 - For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard.
Psa 22:25 - My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him.
Psa 22:26 - The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the LORD that seek him: your heart shall live for ever.
Psa 22:27 - All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.
Psa 22:28 - For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and he is the governor among the nations.
Psa 22:29 - All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.
Psa 22:30 - A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.
Psa 22:31 - They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.

Good answer! When I converted this entire matter drove me nuts because I am and was a father that worked at being a dad. I found the answer in Psalm 22 and ancient Jewish customs. If someone were to, in a stressful or intense situation, utter or speak the first line of a Psalm, they were invoking the complete Psalm to apply to the event. So. the Father never abandoned Jesus but He, like Jesus wanted this done to reestablish man's fellowship with the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit.

 

[dianegcook]

Psa 22:1 ¶ [[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?
Psa 22:2 - O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.
Psa 22:3 - But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.
Psa 22:4 - Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.
Psa 22:5 - They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded.
Psa 22:6 - But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.
Psa 22:7 - All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,
Psa 22:8 - He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.
Psa 22:9 - But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.
Psa 22:10 - I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.
Psa 22:11 - Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.
Psa 22:12 - Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.
Psa 22:13 - They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.
Psa 22:14 - I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.
Psa 22:15 - My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.
Psa 22:16 - For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Psa 22:17 - I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
Psa 22:18 - They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
Psa 22:19 - But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
Psa 22:20 - Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
Psa 22:21 - Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.
Psa 22:22 - I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.
Psa 22:23 - Ye that fear the LORD, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.
Psa 22:24 - For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard.
Psa 22:25 - My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him.
Psa 22:26 - The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the LORD that seek him: your heart shall live for ever.
Psa 22:27 - All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.
Psa 22:28 - For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and he is the governor among the nations.
Psa 22:29 - All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.
Psa 22:30 - A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.
Psa 22:31 - They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.

:amen

That is my thoughts!
So good to see someone think on the same line as I.
I hear so much theories as, turning His back, He had a weak moment etc, etc.
Jesus for one, never called God, God, but called Him, Father.
Also as the verse you quoted, verse 24, neither hath He hid His face from Him, but when He cried unto Him, He heard.

So, I believe He was still teaching, even on the cross, that this prophecy was being filled, right before their eyes.

 

[Karl]

Yes!!!

Jesus started His ministry with a Bible study Lk 4:17-21 and He ended it with a Bible study.

 

[dianegcook]

Mark 10:18

Thank you, I stand corrected.

 

[clark thompson]

Jesus was teaching the people that because He was n the cross for them it was God keeping His promise to them even though they rejected Him.