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Was Muhammad bewitched?

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Muhammad's wife (Aisha) tells about his bewitchment

(a) Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 7, Book 71, Number 658:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamental ... 07.071.658 Narrated 'Aisha: A man called Labid bin al-A'sam from the tribe of Bani Zaraiq worked magic on Allah's Apostle till Allah's Apostle started imagining that he had done a thing that he had not really done. One day or one night he was with us, he invoked Allah and invoked for a long period...

(b) Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 8, Book 75, Number 400:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamental ... 08.075.400 Narrated 'Aisha: that Allah's Apostle was affected by magic, so much that he used to think that he had done something which in fact, he did not do, and he invoked his Lord (for a remedy). Then (one day) he said, "O 'Aisha! Do you know that Allah has advised me as to the problem I consulted Him about?" 'Aisha said, "O Allah's Apostle! What's that?" He said, "Two men came to me and one of them sat at my head and the other at my feet, and one of them asked his companion, 'What is wrong with this man?' The latter replied, 'He is under the effect of magic.'……

(c) Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 7, Book 71, Number 661:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamental ... 07.071.661 Narrated 'Aisha: Magic was worked on Allah's Apostle so that he began to imagine that he had done something although he had not. One day while he was with me, he invoked Allah and invoked for a long period and then said, "O 'Aisha! Do you know that Allah has instructed me regarding the matter I asked Him about?" I asked, "What is that, O Allah's Apostle?" He said, "Two men came to me; one of them sat near my head and the other sat near my feet. One of them asked his companion, 'What is the disease of this man?' The other replied, 'He is under the effect of magic.' …

(d) Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 4, Book 54, Number 490:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamental ... 04.054.490 Narrated 'Aisha: Magic was worked on the Prophet so that he began to fancy that he was doing a thing which he was not actually doing. One day he invoked (Allah) for a long period and then said, "I feel that Allah has inspired me as how to cure myself. Two persons came to me (in my dream) and sat, one by my head and the other by my feet. One of them asked the other, "What is the ailment of this man?" The other replied, 'He has been bewitched" The first asked, 'Who has bewitched him?'

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This Muhammad is the man that SomaSite trusts more than Matthew and Mark and Luke and John to tell him about Jesus Christ!

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It is not a case of magic here, rather hypnotism. The Prophet relied only on Allah Almighty to cure him. He could've used the "Nashra" treatment, but he chose not to. He waited until Allah Almighty cured him, because he wanted to teach the Muslims to rely only on Allah Almighty for cures, and not on superstitious acts.

The practice was not a superstition, but rather a spit and insult on satan. I wonder in which book voodoo and superstition appear.

"This is a clear case of hypnosis, plain and simple. We know that the *science* of hypnosis evolved in the 19th century and so we can accurately deduce that in the 5th century (600AD) hypnosis was only known by the term Magic. Even today there is no one word for hypnosis in Arabic. And even today people can be hypnotized, so why wouldn't Muhammad (Peace be up on him) be able to get hypnotized, ESPECIALLY if Allah wants to teach us a lesson. How you can tell this is hypnosis.

1. The person who performed it didn't do anything really spectacular, it's not like he did Magic and made Muhammad's (Peace be up on him) hair or other body part disappear.

2. Look at the Hadith: Magic was worked on Allah's Apostle so that he used to ***think*** that he had sexual relations with his wives. But back then there was no other way to describe it but Magic.

Next look at the Webster's dictionary definition in English for hypnosis:

Main Entry: hyp·no·sis
Pronunciation: hip-'nO-s&s
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural hyp·no·ses /-"sEz/
Etymology: New Latin
Date: 1876
1 : a state that resembles sleep but is induced by a person whose
suggestions are readily accepted by the subject
2 : any of various conditions that resemble sleep
3 : HYPNOTISM 1

Look at the date!! 1876... if the word didn't exist in English until 1876 then why would it exist in 600 AD in the Middle East?
 
Your prophet was HYPNOTIZED?

Really?

So who was in the cave with him when he had his first "vision"... or was he also hypnotized then? Does "snoring like a camel" also qualify as hypnotism?

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Muhammad relied on Allah to cure him of HYPNOTISM?!?!

... was Muhammad so weak-willed that someone HYPNOTIZED him against his will?

What a loser!

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Ha ha ha....such are the responses that are to be expected from someone with your mental age; grow up.
 
Ha ha ha....such are the responses that are to be expected from someone with your mental age; grow up.

So Muhammad is a loser because he depended on Allah to cure him of his illness? You must be the real loser to think your puny little self has any power whatsoever to do anything. Your body doesnt combat infections, neither does the medicine, neither does the doctor. It is God who gives the will for these things to happen; these are only the way in which his doings are brought about. Every one must seek help from God to cure himself, since the power comes from God. I see you fail to grasp that?
 
Again, you bring your immaturity into it- like thats really gonna win u the argument. :roll:
 
The HYPNOTIZED prophet of Islam

All I have shown is that your little attempt at an escape clause that Muhammad was hypnotized demonstrates that:

(1) You have no answer to the bewitchment/magic story so you invent the "Hypnosis Theory"

BUT

.... it falls flat. No one can be hypnotized against their will.

(2) Which leaves you with the very uncomfortable thought. Your prophet was bewitched; someone performed magic on him. Even his wife recognizes the fact.

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This Muhammad is the man that SomaSite trusts more than Matthew and Mark and Luke and John to tell him about Jesus Christ!
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Gary,

You really dont know me as well as you think!

And Bilial makes a good point!

"Hypnotism" and "trance" states were induced in Biblical prophets as well!

Watch this......

Numbers 24:4

He hath said, which heard the words of God, which saw the vision of the Almighty, falling into a trance, but having his eyes open:

Numbers 24:16

He hath said, which heard the words of God, and knew the knowledge of the most High, which saw the vision of the Almighty, falling into a trance, but having his eyes open:

Acts 10:10

And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,

Acts 11:5

I was in the city of Joppa praying: and in a trance I saw a vision, A certain vessel descend, as it had been a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came even to me:

Acts 22:17

And it came to pass, that, when I was come again to Jerusalem, even while I prayed in the temple, I was in a trance;


Now pay close attention to this.....

Main Entry: trance

Definition: hypnotism

Synonyms: abstraction, brown study, coma, daze, dream, ecstasy, glaze, gone, insensibility, muse, petrifaction, rapture, reverie, SPELL, study, stupor, transfixion, transfixture, unconsciousness

Source: Roget's New Millenniumâ„¢ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)
Copyright © 2006 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved.

Once again an argument against Islam is debunked according to semantics!!!!

Paul was under a "spell" when he received visions!!!!

WHoa!
 
Your prophet was HYPNOTIZED?

Really?

So who was in the cave with him when he had his first "vision"... or was he also hypnotized then? Does "snoring like a camel" also qualify as hypnotism?
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I am very surprised that this one slipped under your radar as you generally seem to know the Bible quite well....

TRANCE

trans (ekstasis): The condition expressed by this word is a mental state in which the person affected is partially or wholly unconscious of objective sensations, but intensely alive to subjective impressions which, however they may be originated, are felt as if they were revelations from without.

They may take the form of visual or auditory sensations or else of impressions of taste, smell, heat or cold, and sometimes these conditions precede epileptic seizures constituting what is named the aura epileptica.

Remember Paul??????

The word occurs 5 times in the King James Version, twice in the story of Balaam (Nu 24:4,16), twice in the history of Peter (Acts 10:10; 11:5), and once in that of Paul (Acts 22:17). In the Balaam story the word is of the nature of a gloss rather than a translation, as the Hebrew naphal means simply "to fall down" and is translated accordingly in the Revised Version (British and American). Here Septuagint has en hupno, "in sleep" (see SLEEP, DEEP). In Peter's vision on the housetop at Joppa he saw the sail (othone) descending from heaven, and heard a voice. Paul's trance was also one of both sight and sound. The vision on the Damascus road (Acts 9:3-9) and that recorded in 2 Cor 12:2-4 were also cases of trance, as were the prophetic ecstasies of Saul, Daniel and Elisha, and the condition of John in which he says that he was "in the Spirit" (Rev 1:10).

The border line between trance and dream is indefinite: the former occurs while one is, in a sense, awake; the latter takes place in the passage from sleep to wakefulness. The dream as well as the vision were supposed of old to be channels of revelation (Job 33:15). In Shakespearean English, "trance" means a dream (Taming of the Shrew, I, i, 182), or simply a bewilderment (Lucrece, 1595).

In the phenomena of hypnotic suggestion, sometimes affecting a number of persons simultaneously we have conditions closely allied to trance, and doubtless some of the well-authenticated phantom appearances are similar subjective projections from the mind affecting the visual and auditory centers of the brain.
Alex. Macalister


http://www.bible-history.com/isbe/T/TRANCE/
 
Usual SomaSite rubbish - worth nothing.

Long posts from SomaSite which, as usual, mean ZIP.

Muhammad was BEWITCHED by a MAN.

Even his wife says so.

Deal with it.

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Long posts from SomaSite which, as usual, mean ZIP.

Muhammad was BEWITCHED by a MAN.

Even his wife says so.

Deal with it.
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ahhh come on Gary!

You know I am right on this one.....

Read my posts, I researched it before and it is in the Vine's concordance!
 
Muhammad's bewitchment PROVES he is a false prophet

Muhammad's bewitchment proves again that he was a false prophet

SomaSite, your "research" is worthless. This thread is about the BEWITCHMENT of Muhammad. So back to the topic:

Muhammad was BEWITCHED by a MAN. His enemy BEWITCHED him, did MAGIC on him. The bewitchment of Muhammad (falling under the power and control of a magician) proves, by his own standard, that he is a false prophet!

How so?

Let us look at one of the Hadith again:

Narrated Aisha:
Magic was worked on Allah's Apostle so that he used to think that he had sexual relations with his wives while he actually had not (Sufyan said: That is the hardest kind of magic as it has such an effect). Then one day he said, "O ‘Aisha do you know that Allah has instructed me concerning the matter I asked Him about? Two men came to me and one of them sat near my head and the other sat near my feet. The one near my head asked the other, ‘What is wrong with this man?’ The latter replied he is under the effect of magic. The first one asked, ‘Who has worked magic on him?’ The other replied, ‘Labid bin Al-A’sam, a man from Bani Zuraiq who was an ally of the Jews and was a hypocrite.’ The first one asked, ‘What material did he use?’ The other replied, ‘A comb and the hair stuck to it.’ The first one asked, ‘Where (is that)?’ The other replied, ‘In a skin of pollen of a male date palm tree kept under a stone in the well of Dharwan.’" So the Prophet went to that well and took out those things and said, "That was the well which was shown to me (in a dream). Its water looked like the infusion of Henna leaves and its date-palm trees looked like the heads of devils." The Prophet added, "Then that thing was taken out." I said (to the Prophet) "Why do you not treat yourself with Nashra?" He said, "Allah has cured me; I dislike to let evil spread among my people." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 71, Number 660)
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So this magic and bewitchment worked on his mind. He started imagining doing things that he hadn’t done.

What does the Quran say about this?

Muhammad’s bewitchment contradicts Allah’s promise that Satan will not be able to have any authority over his servants:

Surely, as regards My servants, YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY OVER THEM except those who follow you of the deviators. S. 15:42 Shakir
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Here, Allah supposedly tells Satan that the latter will only have authority against the deviators, but not over believers. This point regarding Allah protecting all believers, which would especially be the case with prophets, is repeated several times in the Quran:

O you who believe! take care of your souls; he who errs cannot hurt you WHEN YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT WAY; to Allah is your return, of all (of you), so He will inform you of what you did. S. 5:105 Shakir
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When thou recitest the Koran, seek refuge in Allah from the accursed Satan; he has no authority over those who believe and trust in their Lord; his authority is over those who take him for their friend and ascribe associates to Allah. S. 16:98-100
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Save unto every messenger whom He hath chosen, and then He maketh a guard to go before him and a guard behind him That He may know that they have indeed conveyed the messages of their Lord. He surroundeth all their doings, and He keepeth count of all things. S. 72:27-28 Pickthall
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Allah also promised that he would protect Muhammad from the people:

O Apostle! deliver what has been revealed to you from your Lord; and if you do it not, then you have not delivered His message, and Allah will protect you from the people; surely Allah will not guide the unbelieving people. S. 5:67 Shakir
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The implications of the above citations should be obvious to the reader.
Muhammad, if he was pleasing to Allah and under his protection, could not come under Satan’s control and be bewitched. Neither a Jew, Christian, pagan etc, would be able to affect Muhammad with magic since Allah promised to protect him. Yet the hadiths say that Muhammad came under Satan’s authority when a Jew bewitched him!

Read more: -here-
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The Sheikh begins:

The Muslim scholars hold three views with regard to this incident:

The first view: The sorcery whom the Prophet (peace be upon him) was exposed to is merely a usual disease and a transient illness, this is possible in regard to the Prophets as is to any human being. It does not disprove prophethood or disturb the message or revelation. God the Exalted protected His Prophet from whatever interferes with the mission of conveying the message and from being killed, not from transient physical diseases.

This is the view of Al-Maziri, Ibn Al-Qayyim, Al-‘Aini, As-Sindi and Ibn Bazz.

Al-Qadi ‘Ayyad explained it saying:

In regard to what was reported that he used to think that he did a thing while he did not, it does not interfere with his delivery of the Message or the Law nor does it undermine his truthfulness due to the evident proof and consensus of his protection from this. This was merely a worldly matter that has nothing to do with his Mission or rank, and he is exposed to it as any other human being. So, it is not impossible for him to imagine unreal things, then find out what they really are …. It is not reported regarding this event anything other than what he said about doing something that he really did not. It was merely imagination.

From answering Islam
 
to gary

Gary i just know your an old fool who just want's to show islam in the wrong manner posting these authenticated hadiths and verses but with no knowledge of it.

Dude you will not accept a muslim talking about christianity because he wouldn't know.

So you keep your mouth shut and not talk about something you do not know.

I challenge your ignorance of Islam.

but it's not worth it.

you'll see it someday
 
Anthing thing to explain Muhammad's bewitchment

Cleft Asunder said:
Gary i just know your an old fool who just want's to show islam in the wrong manner posting these authenticated hadiths and verses but with no knowledge of it. Dude you will not accept a muslim talking about christianity because he wouldn't know. So you keep your mouth shut and not talk about something you do not know.

I challenge your ignorance of Islam. ....
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OK. Let's assume I know nothing about Islam.

Please explain Muhammad's bewitchment to me. Bilal thinks it was hypnotism. Other Muslims think it was a physical sickness, a disease, a transient illness. Others think it was all imaginary. Others deny the Hadith. Aisha said that magic was worked on Muhammad that he used to think that he had sexual relations with his wives while he actually had not (Sufyan said: That is the hardest kind of magic as it has such an effect).

What do you think?

:)
 
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