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We are Complete in Jesus Christ, Colossians 2:10.

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Robert Pate

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We cannot make ourselves any better than what God has made us in Jesus Christ.

God requires two things for the salvation of fallen man.

1. A life of perfect obedience according to his holy law.

2. A perfect atonement for our sins and the sins of humanity.

Jesus in our name and on our behalf, as our substitute and representative has victoriously met both of these requirements.

This is why Paul wrote, "And you are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power" Colossians 2:10.

The law has been fulfilled and abolished, because "Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone that believes" Romans 10:4.

Our sins and the sins of the whole world have been atoned for, 1 John 2:2. We can now stand in God's Holy Court as perfect and complete "In Christ". Fully and completely reconciled unto God the Father, 2 Corinthians 5:18-19.

Jesus as our advocate and savior has victoriously defeated sin, death and the devil and now sits in heaven as, "The King of Kings and the Lord of Lords" Revelation 19:16.

Will you be a part of this wonderful salvation that God has provided for us in Jesus Christ, or will you die in your sins?
 
The law is not abolished, but rather established.
rom3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
 
founders.org

The Use of God's Law in Daily Christian Life

Paragraphs 6 and 7 Chapter XIX Second London Confession The first five paragraphs of Chapter 19 confess our forefathers’ understanding of Scripture concerning the moral law of God, identified by them as the Ten Commandments. The moral nature of God, reflected in Adam’s nature, was written on...
founders.org founders.org

The Use of God's Law in Daily Christian Life​


FRED MALONE​

Founders Journal 115
WINTER 2019
The Use of God's Law in Daily Christian Life


Paragraphs 6 and 7
Chapter XIX
Second London Confession
The first five paragraphs of Chapter 19 confess our forefathers’ understanding of Scripture concerning the moral law of God, identified by them as the Ten Commandments. The moral nature of God, reflected in Adam’s nature, was written on Adam’s heart at his creation (Romans 2:14–15). This is identified as the same law as the Ten Commandments of God, given to the Jews at Sinai (2:20–23). It is this moral law which is still written in remnant form on the heart of all men, their conscience bearing them witness. Thus, God’s standard of righteousness and the basis for His judgment of all men is the Ten Commandments (3:19–20). This was clarified and reiterated by our Lord Himself in Matthew 5:17–22. These commandments fill up the meaning of the two great commandments of love to God and man (Matthew 22:36–40; Romans 13:8–10).
Therefore, paragraphs 2LBC 19:6–7 explain how the Christian is to follow the law of God in his daily life. Having been freed from the condemnation of the law broken by Adam and by each of their own committed sins, having a perfect Savior who kept and fulfilled the Covenant of Works given to Adam, having one’s sins against the law atoned for by the efficacious atonement of our impeccable Savior, now the believer lives no longer under law but under grace all the time (Romans 5:1–2).
And yet, freed from the condemnation of the law covenant in Adam, the believer still lives under the definition of righteousness and of sin identified in the Ten Commandments of God (1 Cor. 9:21–22). Under grace, the redeemed and forgiven believer delights after the law of God in the inner man, and seeks to keep it with a living faith in Christ (Rom. 7:22; versus 8:7). This is, biblically, the pursuit of holiness and Christlikeness often eluding the preaching and teaching in today’s evangelical-reformed churches (see Chapter XIII:3). If a believer would pursue Christlikeness, he/she must love God and man as defined in the Ten Commandments which Jesus perfectly embodied:
2LBC Chapter 19:6–7
19.6. Although true believers be not under the law as a covenant of works, to be thereby justified or condemned,13 yet it is of great use to them as well as to others, in that as a rule of life, informing them of the will of God and their duty, it directs and binds them to walk accordingly; discovering also the sinful pollutions of their natures, hearts, and lives, so as examining themselves thereby, they may come to further conviction of, humiliation for, and hatred against, sin;14 together with a clearer sight of the need they have of Christ and the perfection of his obedience: it is likewise of use to the regenerate to restrain their corruptions, in that it forbids sin; and the threatenings of it serve to shew what even their sins deserve, and what afflictions in this life they may expect for them, although freed from the curse and unallayed rigour thereof. These promises of it likewise shew them God’s approbation of obedience, and what blessings they may expect upon the performance thereof, though not as due to them by the law as a covenant of works; so as man’s doing good and refraining from evil, because the law encourageth to the one and deterreth from the other, is no evidence of his being under the law and not under grace.15
13 Romans 6:14; Galatians 2:16; Romans 8:1; 10:4. 14 Romans 3:20; 8:7, etc.
15 Romans 6:12–14; 1 Peter 3:8–13.
19.7. Neither are the aforementioned uses of the law contrary to the grace of the Gospel, but do sweetly comply with it,16 the Spirit of Christ subduing and enabling the will of man to do that freely and cheerfully which the will of God, revealed in the law, requireth to be done.17
 
Iconoclast said:
founders.org

The Use of God's Law in Daily Christian Life

Paragraphs 6 and 7 Chapter XIX Second London Confession The first five paragraphs of Chapter 19 confess our forefathers’ understanding of Scripture concerning the moral law of God, identified by them as the Ten Commandments. The moral nature of God, reflected in Adam’s nature, was written on...
founders.org founders.org

The Use of God's Law in Daily Christian Life​


FRED MALONE​

Founders Journal 115
WINTER 2019
The Use of God's Law in Daily Christian Life's Law in Daily Christian Life


Paragraphs 6 and 7
Chapter XIX
Second London Confession
The first five paragraphs of Chapter 19 confess our forefathers’ understanding of Scripture concerning the moral law of God, identified by them as the Ten Commandments. The moral nature of God, reflected in Adam’s nature, was written on Adam’s heart at his creation (Romans 2:14–15). This is identified as the same law as the Ten Commandments of God, given to the Jews at Sinai (2:20–23). It is this moral law which is still written in remnant form on the heart of all men, their conscience bearing them witness. Thus, God’s standard of righteousness and the basis for His judgment of all men is the Ten Commandments (3:19–20). This was clarified and reiterated by our Lord Himself in Matthew 5:17–22. These commandments fill up the meaning of the two great commandments of love to God and man (Matthew 22:36–40; Romans 13:8–10).
Therefore, paragraphs 2LBC 19:6–7 explain how the Christian is to follow the law of God in his daily life. Having been freed from the condemnation of the law broken by Adam and by each of their own committed sins, having a perfect Savior who kept and fulfilled the Covenant of Works given to Adam, having one’s sins against the law atoned for by the efficacious atonement of our impeccable Savior, now the believer lives no longer under law but under grace all the time (Romans 5:1–2).
And yet, freed from the condemnation of the law covenant in Adam, the believer still lives under the definition of righteousness and of sin identified in the Ten Commandments of God (1 Cor. 9:21–22). Under grace, the redeemed and forgiven believer delights after the law of God in the inner man, and seeks to keep it with a living faith in Christ (Rom. 7:22; versus 8:7). This is, biblically, the pursuit of holiness and Christlikeness often eluding the preaching and teaching in today’s evangelical-reformed churches (see Chapter XIII:3). If a believer would pursue Christlikeness, he/she must love God and man as defined in the Ten Commandments which Jesus perfectly embodied:
2LBC Chapter 19:6–7
19.6. Although true believers be not under the law as a covenant of works, to be thereby justified or condemned,13 yet it is of great use to them as well as to others, in that as a rule of life, informing them of the will of God and their duty, it directs and binds them to walk accordingly; discovering also the sinful pollutions of their natures, hearts, and lives, so as examining themselves thereby, they may come to further conviction of, humiliation for, and hatred against, sin;14 together with a clearer sight of the need they have of Christ and the perfection of his obedience: it is likewise of use to the regenerate to restrain their corruptions, in that it forbids sin; and the threatenings of it serve to shew what even their sins deserve, and what afflictions in this life they may expect for them, although freed from the curse and unallayed rigour thereof. These promises of it likewise shew them God’s approbation of obedience, and what blessings they may expect upon the performance thereof, though not as due to them by the law as a covenant of works; so as man’s doing good and refraining from evil, because the law encourageth to the one and deterreth from the other, is no evidence of his being under the law and not under grace.15
13 Romans 6:14; Galatians 2:16; Romans 8:1; 10:4. 14 Romans 3:20; 8:7, etc.
15 Romans 6:12–14; 1 Peter 3:8–13.
19.7. Neither are the aforementioned uses of the law contrary to the grace of the Gospel, but do sweetly comply with it,16 the Spirit of Christ subduing and enabling the will of man to do that freely and cheerfully which the will of God, revealed in the law, requireth to be done.17
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What you believe is not correct.

The purpose of the law is to judge and condemn.

"There is therefore now no condemnation for those that are in Christ Jesus" Romans 8:1.

There is no condemnation because there is no law, because, "Christ is the end of the law for righteousness for those that believe, Romans 10:4.

We establish the law by being "Complete in Christ" Colossians 2:10.
 
Sorry but in all your postings on all the boards you are dead wrong on this whole issue of law and grace.
Go over this link, line by line, and if you think it is wrong...offer biblical correction. You cannot do it , because your antinomian view does not hold water. Go ahead and try. I will respond in defense of those points offered in the link.
 
Iconoclast said:
Sorry but in all your postings on all the boards you are dead wrong on this whole issue of law and grace.
Go over this link, line by line, and if you think it is wrong...offer biblical correction. You cannot do it , because your antinomian view does not hold water. Go ahead and try. I will respond in defense of those points o
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I have already refuted your law-based religion. I don't feel the need to do it again. I will give you a warning from Paul.
"For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse" Galatians 3:10. Because the law works wrath: for where there is no law, there is no transgression" Romans 4:15.
 
Robert Pate said:
I have already refuted your law-based religion. I don't feel the need to do it again. I will give you a warning from Paul.
"For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse" Galatians 3:10. Because the law works wrath: for where there is no law, there is no transgression" Romans 4:15.
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This is why Jesus abolished the law by nailing it to his cross, Colossians 2:14. Christians are not under laws, rules or religion, because, "Christ is the end of the law for righteousness for those that believe" Romans 10:4. The law is for Pharisees, not Christians. Christians are led by the Holy Spirit.
 
I believe Christ is "the end of the law to believers", because if Jesus had enforced the law against people who sinned against him, sinners would be condemned.
If our Lord chose not to bring sinners who wanted him dead into judgment, then in that sense, the law doesn't apply to us and we therefore forgive as his Spirit leads us.
 
journeyman said:
I believe Christ is "the end of the law to believers", because if Jesus had enforced the law against people who sinned against him, sinners would be condemned.
If our Lord chose not to bring sinners who wanted him dead into judgment, then in that sense, the law doesn't apply to us and we therefore forgive as his Spirit leads us.
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Right.

The purpose of the law is to judge and condemn.

"There is no condemnation for those that are "In Christ" Romans 8:1. There is no condemnation because there is no law. Romans 4:15. It was abolished, Ephesians 2:15.
 
Robert Pate said:
Right.

The purpose of the law is to judge and condemn.

"There is no condemnation for those that are "In Christ" Romans 8:1. There is no condemnation because there is no law. Romans 4:15. It was abolished, Ephesians 2:15.
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I believe in Christ, the purpose of the law is to teach us that we all need mercy.
The "enmity" spoken of in Eph. is the same as,

Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; Col.2:14

So it means in the sense that the Lamb of God doesn't bring sinners who have confessed their sins against him into judgment.
 
journeyman said:
I believe in Christ, the purpose of the law is to teach us that we all need mercy.
The "enmity" spoken of in Eph. is the same as,

Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; Col.2:14

So it means in the sense that the Lamb of God doesn't bring sinners who have confessed their sins against him into judgment.
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Paul said that the law is our schoolmaster that brings us to Christ that we might be justified by faith, Galatians 3:24.
 
Robert Pate said:
Paul said that the law is our schoolmaster that brings us to Christ that we might be justified by faith, Galatians 3:24.
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Yes. If we look at what the law says about sinners, we can clearly see how the Messiah chose not to bring people who sinned against him into judgment.

And they smote him on the head with a reed, and did spit upon him Mk.15:19

many a time turned he his anger away, and did not stir up all his wrath. Psa78:38
 
journeyman said:
Yes. If we look at what the law says about sinners, we can clearly see how the Messiah chose not to bring people who sinned against him into judgment.

And they smote him on the head with a reed, and did spit upon him Mk.15:19

many a time turned he his anger away, and did not stir up all his wrath. Psa78:38
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If he wanted help, there were 10,000 angels waiting to rescue him.
 
journeyman said:
I know, but God doesn't need help to defeat his enemies, or prolong his life, because he's all powerful and eternal.
He is who he is,

Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. Jn.14:1
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What is so amazing to me is how Jesus limited himself. Even though he was the "King of Kings and the Lord of Lords". He did not use his position to overcome sin, death and the devil. He did it in his human flesh.
 
Robert Pate said:
What is so amazing to me is how Jesus limited himself. Even though he was the "King of Kings and the Lord of Lords". He did not use his position to overcome sin, death and the devil. He did it in his human flesh.
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Yes, but he possessed eternal life before he died. If he had put an end to all death and evil spirits back then, it would have been through judgment,

the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire.....And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. Rev.20:10,14
 
journeyman said:
Yes, but he possessed eternal life before he died. If he had put an end to all death and evil spirits back then, it would have been through judgment,

the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire.....And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. Rev.20:10,14
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In the end, righteousness, truth, and justice will prevail.
 
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