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We Are In The END TIME!

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Part one: By Elijah

As The Latter Rain falls again on earth for the Last Promised Time, (Acts 3:19's last Refreshing) we can see by Acts 5, that this is a Wonderful & yet a very serious time. Surely we all can see why Great Fear came to the CHURCH? It was NO TIME to be lax or careless, or worse, that of just playing church.

OK: Lets see what is said by God about HIS Church, and the ones who died by just making the 'claim of faith' to being Christians'. (Acts 5's Ananias and Sapphira)
Remember that this is the Lord's WORD to each of [US] as individuals. In Rom. 8:1 + Rom. 8:14 we see what is our DUTY from day one of Justification on, if we are to be saved when Christ comes. This is END TIME Truth, and was for both Acts Outpouring of The Holy Ghost & then again at the REFRESHING End Time again, that we are in. And is our last opportunity as we will see below. Will we be (Rom. 8:14) 'LED' of the Holy Spirit is the question to each of us??

Rev. 22
[18] For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
[19] And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.


(and it was un/inspired man who divided up Gods Matt. 4:4 & 2 Tim. 3:16's BOOK, with chapters, numbers, periods, comas & the like, and this surly must be found in the division of the old Testament also, then. Lets see...
In Eccl. 3:14 we see nearly the same Inspired Wording! Even check Exod. 32:33.. 'And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.'

Eccl. 3
[14] I know that, whatsoever God doeth, (or sayeth!) it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.
[15] That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.

(If one can follow Gods Word? (Heb. 6:3) He has stated that the Word of God is Immortal as are They! It matter's not when it was given to man, it 'hath already BEEN! Got that? No? Then read prayerfully on! And remember that we are finding out what God REQUIRES of each one of us in the Time of Refreshings just before Christ comes again. And do not forget that within us, there are the Rev. 17:1-5 ones & the ones who will be as Acts 5 found by the Holy Spirit. Yet, as we read on, we will find much much more!)


Eccl. 1
[9] The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
[10] Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.

(And surely this is God telling us special Truths about Salvation. For He gives us about the few times that this does not apply if that be the non/salvation case. Such as the rain/bow & no more world floods & Nah. 1:9 that sin WILL NOT ARISE THE SECOND TIME. Lets check further for Latter Rain Responsibility, & surely Christ Himself when He was here gave us insights to what would take place just before He came again the second time! 'Repeat!')

John 10
[14] I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
[15] As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
[16] And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

(OK: A repeat just before Christ Comes Again. He say's that 'He must BRING' into His Fold. ('which are not of this fold) Ask yourself about why that is so? Surely you can understand that if HE were IN those other FOLDS, there would be NO REASON TO LEAVE! Even in Christ's day, His very own were Yoked IN Folds who had not Christ In them. And why? because they had false Doctrinal Teachings. Yet there were some Individuals who Loved Christ & were Sincere, yet, ignorant, and when they became knowledgeable they were required to leave. Yet, who that LOVED CHRIST would stay IN satans camp? None! So, even with the 'threatening of satan & his crew, Christ's faithful Ministers will again do the dangerous work of warning of ALL False satan's doctrines! As seen just before CHRIST COMES the 'REPEAT SECOND TIME'. TheEccl. verses again.)

Rev.17
[1] And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
[2] With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.


(Protestants at the start did what? They came out of her My people! Even though they did not have the last day knowledge on all doctrines, (Hosea 4:6 & Dan. 12:4) they were still obedient to what they did have. And there was NO LUKEWARMNESS in telling the World who rome was and is! And there were many who died saved in the FAITH that they had up to that time period even in rome! Were there false doctrines that required removing & cleaning up?? You be the judge to that!

Yet, note that we have gone long, long past the 120 years of the Gen. 6:3's preaching of Noah and THE STRIVING OF THE HOLY GHOST to repent of the false stuff taught for truth! And most today ones go right back to the long dead ones of Jer. 17:5 for their one/time ignorant truth, which they thought was OK at that time. In fact, it has ONLY BEEN IN RECENT TIME that any even lovingly dare mention these
[DAUGHTER'S] in their plural. See the men of today in John 20:19 & even in today setting of Isa. 3:8-12 both repeats!)

(part two will follow)
 

(Part two)


[3] So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, [full of names of blasphemy,] having seven heads and ten horns.
[4] And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, [having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication]:
[5] And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOT'S' AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.


(Just take a guess who will be 'in the majority', that will force Caesar to execute in the 666 mark time? And what are they mostly all in unity with at the present time with 'their fruit sacrifice offering' which they think is needed by force to try to appease an angry God, (as they 'blindly' think) to get out of the Matt. 24:21 'tribulation' that earth is now in?)


Eze.9.. (There are just two class saved at this time! (Matt. 6:24) See if you will be saved with Eternal life or not? And make NO Mistakes about it, these saved ones are doing the HARD WORK THAT THEIR MASTER REQUIRES OF THEM BECAUSE THEY LOVE HIM & THE ONES THAT ARE STILL IN THE FALLEN FOLDS! There is NO SIN OF OMISSION SEEN OR ALLOWED HERE! (and a repeat of Matt. 23:15)

[1] He cried also in mine ears with a loud voice, saying, Cause them that have charge over the city to draw near, even every man with his destroying weapon in his hand.
[2] And, behold, six men came from the way of the higher gate, which lieth toward the north, and every man a slaughter weapon in his hand; and one man among them was clothed with linen, with a writer's inkhorn by his side: and they went in, and stood beside the brasen altar.
[3] And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side;


[4] And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

[5] And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:
[6] Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
.......

[10] And as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity, but I will recompense their way upon their head.
[11] And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which had the inkhorn by his side, reported the matter, saying, I have done as thou hast commanded me.

(And these church's (fold's) of today are even so mealy/mouthed that they just go along being eternally lost partakers! 1 Cor. 6:2-3 And Paul say.. 'DARE'??? Are you kidding?? But NO, there are some, even if they be few, who are Christ's very own, & who.. as the Holy Spirit becomes even more dominate, will do as HE LEADS!! And yes, we are seeing it all around today!)


Rev. 18
[1] And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and [the earth was lightened with his glory.]
[2] And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

[3] For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

[4] And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, [that ye be not partakers] of her sins, and [that ye receive not of her plagues.]
[5] For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
[6] Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.


--Elijah

 
Re: We Are In The END TIME! + And The Sin Against The Holy Spirit

--------The Fatal Sin Against The Holy Spirit---------

Psalms 19
[1] The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
[2] Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
[3] There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.
[4] Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
[5] Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.
[6] His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there [is nothing hid] from the heat thereof.


[7] The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
[8] The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
.....
[13] Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: [then shall I be upright], and I shall be innocent from the [great transgression].

(Matt. 12:31-32's sin that has [matured] into total rebellion is any sin which is presumptously carried on while it is known to be sin. No Born again believer can go against the Holy Spirits Leading (Rom. 8:14) without grieving Him & finally quenching Him away for good, to where the 'hardened' conscience is just not possible for Him to reach any more! Christ gives more hope for the very Cold than for these Lukewarm ones of Rev. 3:16-17 +. Just think of the false doctrines of the Rev. 17:1-5 & the Broadway ones of Matt. 7 who have been teaching these foolish false traditions for way on past 120 years of the Holy Spirits STRIVING? And along with Noah's preaching in Gen. 6:3. And preaching the WARNING of a world flood!!? And it had never even rained up to that point in time! Yet, who of the today ones had or will change even one detail of their very presumptous 'Desired' Gen. 4:7 beliefs?


James 1
[14] But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. (sin is not 'consumated' at this point!)
[15] Then when lust [hath conceived], it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when [it is finished,] bringeth forth death.
(This is important to understand! it says lust, yet it is true with any sin as being defined by God in His Inspirition of 1 John 3:4 there is NO Sin except by Breaking the Eternal Law of God that He Himself has in Their Throne in Heavens Ark. (see Rev. 11:19 & Heb. 8:5) Being tempted is not sin, it is when one presumptously yields to the known tempted sin that sin is brought forth. And then in time this dangerous 'presumption' will find one [matured] in its FINAL FINISH.)

1 John 5
[14] And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
[15] And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

(even here we see asking according to His will, He heareth us! who even see's this CONDITION??
And the next verse is vital for understanding that one sin or two sins are not the final finished result of ones life! Yet, each & every know 'presumptious' sin does indeed lead to a deadening of the conscience, again we have the Inspired record of Matt. 7 + Rev. 17:1-5 + Gen. 6:3 & Matt. 23:38 & Rev. 3:9 with the whole church denominational folds! And 'us'?? where do we stand?)

[16] If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
[17] All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
(OK: All Born Again mankind sin. Psalms 19 gives this picture! We have Christ as our High Priest at present attending to these sins. And it is true that many sins of the REAL Brethern are done by babes in Christ & in ignorance. These are not sins unto death. Then we also have presumptous sins that are done, these also are forgiven when repented of & worked on. Now come the same sin of presumption done over & over again... these are what David prayed for God to keep him from, these dangerous [KNOWN] presumptous sins are the ones that 'mature' & 'lead to an FULL MATURE REBELLION'. Such as we see all over the place even while claiming to be Christ's followers. When one has every opportunity to Mature, that we End Time ones have, and we stand still or go backwards, we are in 'serious' presumptous trouble! Yet, these ones still look good to us?? See Luke 12:47-48 for who God Judges the worst offenders for & in hell's execution?

(Dan. 12:4 & while you are still there next comes Hosea, see Hosea 4:6 for these last day Increased facts.. when neglected or voided out!)

You name it!? God has given USA in particular, increased knowledge all over the place! And still we see Matt. 7 + Rev. 17:1-5, and AGAIN, ALL OVER THE PLACE! And MATURELY & SECURELY SET IN THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST IN REBELLION & UNREACHABLE AS PER CHURCH DOCTRINAL FOLDS. And this is why God gives the Rev. 18:4 warning for just a very few who will still hear His Voice speaking to them.)

--Elijah

 
We see in Matt. 24:21 that just before Christ comes again, all hell (as in an analogy) is breaking loose. And not just the earthquakes! You name it? And in verse 14 of Matt. 24 we understand that when this takes place the End WILL COME. [FACT!] (this will be done through persecution + court Sattalite viewing)

And we are to understand with the Acts 3:19 verse 'times of refreshing' that it is at this time that Christ will have just about FINISHED His High Priest work. (Dan. 12:1-2) And 666 will be the deciding factor of who it is that is a true follower of Christ. And during this very short period of time we will see the below truth take place, which already is being done, as we speak!
2Thes.2

[1] Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
[2] That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

[3] Let [no man] deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (surely the Rev. 17:1-5 ones have ALL FALLEN AWAY AS WHOLE CHURCHS, SAY'S INSPIRATION IN CAPS!!)

OK: All of the next 4-8 verses are important, but if you do not know this by now, you are going to be in big trouble!:study

[4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
[5] Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
[6] And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
[7] For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
[8] And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

[9] Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
[10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
[11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Surely you did SEE that this is just before Christ comes again!! Take these Inspired verses & put them together so you can know where you are at in Present Day Truth!

---Elijah

 
Ironically, the writer of Hebrews believed he was in "the end of time":

1 God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, 2in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world. Hebrews 1:1-2 (NASB)

How do you reconcile your view with his?
 
storm:

Ironically, the writer of Hebrews believed he was in "the end of time":

He was. So this time now is even closer to the end as it was then..
 
Ironically, the writer of Hebrews believed he was in "the end of time":

1 God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, 2in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world. Hebrews 1:1-2 (NASB)

How do you reconcile your view with his?

Hi, Elijah here:
1000 years are like one day with God! (and perhaps it is a scale for the 6000 year creation week as well.)

But it is hard to tell where 'we' are at in understanding prophecy. I see Matt. 24:14 as the last go-round so to speak. Matt. 10:23 has Christ.. who was already there speaking, prophesying how the work will be Finished the Second time. [Twice] prophecy in required as 'i' see it. (world court trial most likely)

Note these verses & comments, but Paul documents clearly, & twice, that the Gospel had gone to the ENDS of the Earth! (look them up)

This chapter 24:14 of Matt. has a repeat history. God's WORD says so. The Eccl. verses. Just two (Paul day & our day!) endings of the Eternal Gospel going into all of the world. Rev. 14:6-10!

If the new church did not understand this, how would they had acted when the Holy Spirit DOCUMENTED Matthew 24:14 as again taking place? See Romans 10:18

Paul & Crew (Christian Believers) would have been preaching false doctrines as to the Lord's Second coming. And a large, if not a huge portion would have left the new church. (as did happen to Adventist in 1844)

Matt. 24 is progressive in repeated history. Even men's heart failing them for fear.
But the part most of today's Christians (even) miss, is Christ & Paul both being INSPIRED to state that this second time around "IT WILL BE CUT SHORT IN RIGHTEOUSNESS". What does that mean? We see in documented hindsight from 27-34 AD seven years (Daniel's 'midst of the week') up until Saul (Paul) was converted & was the one to take the Everlasting Gospel to the Gentile.

The True Fold of Christ's OWN had ALREADY REJECTED HIM! Matthew 23:38. This was the ABOMINATION THAT MADE DESOLATE this ex/true/fold!! And it was aprox. 36 years until the ARMIES took Jerusalem. The four Gospels as most call them, give different TRUTH in this setting of Abomination of the True Fold & it destruction. The MIDNIGHT CRY is the JUDGEMENT HOUR to the VIRGIN CHURCH. (see 1 Peter 4:17 for both times..O.T. end and N.T. ending) and the slaughter of Ezekiel 9:1-6 is the Loud Cry of the professed of Israel of old. (the counterpart of the Revelation 17:1-5 ones & 666) There are two GOING OUT in Matthew 25:1-6. These are COMBINED times of warning.

Remember that Israel were going ALL OVER THE WORLD making converts at Christ's day here. (Note Matthew 23:15) God LOVED these ignorant ones & He gave them (not the rejected already judged fold) 36 more years for maturity to see if they would accept the Everlasting Gospel message from the short lived life of the 12 diciples, (except John) and the same exact Everlasting Gospel one of Paul.

The above Matt. 24 is mis-understood in Daniel 9:25-27 by most, because of the two time periods being different by being 'cut short in RIGHTEOUSNESS' in the SECOND time around Truth, as Christ documented.

Then: There are those also who do not understand who Israel now were in Christ's day! They do not know what a CLOSED DOOR meant. Or an DESOLATE FOLD. They might re/read Revelation 3:9 or Revelation 17:1-5. Even Isaiah 5:3 is prophesied for the rejection of Christ by His own true Virgin FOLD! And the APOSTATE FOLD? It stayed put to do satans work, what was Saul doing in Acts 9:1?

If one would just toss all preconceived stuff, and just use Matthew 4:4, 2 Timothy 3:16 along with 1 Corinthians 14:32, and then BELIEVE the WORD OF CHRIST in Ecclesiastes 1:9-10 & Ecclesiastes 3:15's DOUBLE TWICE STATED TRUTH, then they could understand Matthew 24 +!

It is kind of 'interesting' with what most of the today ones might do with Peter's three time vision from the Lord? Most already knew what the vision meant even at the first vision, huh?

Anyhow: We see Matt. 24 about a done deal AGAIN for the last time! No more 36 years. The only thing of great importance still missing, is Christ's documentation of the Matthew 10:23 explanation of the finished product of the Matthew 25 Virgin parable to His disciples. (take note that Christ was already there 'speaking' at that first coming) This ENDING can all be understood as again now taking place from Matthew 10:5-38.
--Elijah
 
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Re: We Are In The END TIME! + And The Sin Against The Holy Spirit

--------The Fatal Sin Against The Holy Spirit---------

Psalms 19
[1] The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
[2] Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
[3] There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.
[4] Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
[5] Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.
[6] His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there [is nothing hid] from the heat thereof.


[7] The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
[8] The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
.....
[13] Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: [then shall I be upright], and I shall be innocent from the [great transgression].

(Matt. 12:31-32's sin that has [matured] into total rebellion is any sin which is presumptously carried on while it is known to be sin. No Born again believer can go against the Holy Spirits Leading (Rom. 8:14) without grieving Him & finally quenching Him away for good, to where the 'hardened' conscience is just not possible for Him to reach any more! Christ gives more hope for the very Cold than for these Lukewarm ones of Rev. 3:16-17 +. Just think of the false doctrines of the Rev. 17:1-5 & the Broadway ones of Matt. 7 who have been teaching these foolish false traditions for way on past 120 years of the Holy Spirits STRIVING? And along with Noah's preaching in Gen. 6:3. And preaching the WARNING of a world flood!!? And it had never even rained up to that point in time! Yet, who of the today ones had or will change even one detail of their very presumptous 'Desired' Gen. 4:7 beliefs?


James 1
[14] But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. (sin is not 'consumated' at this point!)
[15] Then when lust [hath conceived], it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when [it is finished,] bringeth forth death.
(This is important to understand! it says lust, yet it is true with any sin as being defined by God in His Inspirition of 1 John 3:4 there is NO Sin except by Breaking the Eternal Law of God that He Himself has in Their Throne in Heavens Ark. (see Rev. 11:19 & Heb. 8:5) Being tempted is not sin, it is when one presumptously yields to the known tempted sin that sin is brought forth. And then in time this dangerous 'presumption' will find one [matured] in its FINAL FINISH.)

1 John 5
[14] And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
[15] And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

(even here we see asking according to His will, He heareth us! who even see's this CONDITION??
And the next verse is vital for understanding that one sin or two sins are not the final finished result of ones life! Yet, each & every know 'presumptious' sin does indeed lead to a deadening of the conscience, again we have the Inspired record of Matt. 7 + Rev. 17:1-5 + Gen. 6:3 & Matt. 23:38 & Rev. 3:9 with the whole church denominational folds! And 'us'?? where do we stand?)

[16] If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
[17] All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
(OK: All Born Again mankind sin. Psalms 19 gives this picture! We have Christ as our High Priest at present attending to these sins. And it is true that many sins of the REAL Brethern are done by babes in Christ & in ignorance. These are not sins unto death. Then we also have presumptous sins that are done, these also are forgiven when repented of & worked on. Now come the same sin of presumption done over & over again... these are what David prayed for God to keep him from, these dangerous [KNOWN] presumptous sins are the ones that 'mature' & 'lead to an FULL MATURE REBELLION'. Such as we see all over the place even while claiming to be Christ's followers. When one has every opportunity to Mature, that we End Time ones have, and we stand still or go backwards, we are in 'serious' presumptous trouble! Yet, these ones still look good to us?? See Luke 12:47-48 for who God Judges the worst offenders for & in hell's execution?

(Dan. 12:4 & while you are still there next comes Hosea, see Hosea 4:6 for these last day Increased facts.. when neglected or voided out!)

You name it!? God has given USA in particular, increased knowledge all over the place! And still we see Matt. 7 + Rev. 17:1-5, and AGAIN, ALL OVER THE PLACE! And MATURELY & SECURELY SET IN THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST IN REBELLION & UNREACHABLE AS PER CHURCH DOCTRINAL FOLDS. And this is why God gives the Rev. 18:4 warning for just a very few who will still hear His Voice speaking to them.)

--Elijah


Me again at 5:27 Saturday 4/9/2011. My wfe is talking to our older son in Gastonia S.C. He said, mom I have never seen anything like this! we hear talk of golf/ball size hail.. but I see this with my own eyes & they are baseball size hail filling my back yard!! He is taking pictures & then will bunker down in the bathroom he said.

Folks: Reread Matt. 24:21 for where you are entering. And again Isa. 5:1-4, and then the reason for this there on!

--Elijah
 
We are in the "end time" of something ever day. It pays to define what "end time" you're describing.
 
The Finish

Just two United groups. 'Matt. 6:24' Christ's one Eph. 4:5 Church 'fold', and satan's church's.
Christ's Church is seen in Rev. 12:17 & Rev. 3:10's as Philadelphia. And satan's ones are seen in Matt. 7's Broadway + Rev. 17:1-5 total church's except, Philadelphia.

And Surely take note of Rev. 3's last of earth's true fold Laodicea that is also spewed out & became verse 9's synagogue of satan.

As with Philadelphia, she came out of Laodicea's Last Virgin Candlestick as did the Acts Organized One True Church. And as went old Israel, so went (past/tense) the Acts Church, including again Laodicea as repeated history. Eccl. 1:9-10 + Eccl. 3:15. These all are seen UNITED in Matt. 6:24.

Who is left? Read it again! Only the very very few (in comparison) as seen in the first paragraph.

Rev. 12
[17] And the dragon was wroth with the woman, (and in both old & new testament satan became their leader!) and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

These alone will finish the Rev. 14:6-10 Testimony to the world with the Later Rain (Acts 3:19-Joel 2 as well as Acts 2) & His last day Increased Knowledge of communication Earth/wide in the matter of days!! Some of the Rev. 7:9 ones will be included 'in,' from this message. Yet, this vast number has all of the saved 'remnant' from Adam on as well.

--Elijah

 
The "end time" of what? Please define what you mean by "end time."
 
Preterists believe that the Bible is speaking about the end of the old covenant of heaven & earth (Israel) The end of the age.

Another reason why I am a Preterist: I found this today. Another reason why I'm not waiting for Jesus to return literally or physically. His "presence" is here & now in the New Jerusalem on earth.(spiritual church)


The atheist Bertrand Russell rejected Christianity at least in part because of Bible prophecy.
"Having granted the excellence of these maxims, I come to certain points in which I do not believe that one can grant either the superlative wisdom or the superlative goodness of Christ as depicted in the Gospels; and here I may say that one is not concerned with the historical question. Historically, it is quite doubtful whether Christ ever existed at all, and if He did we do not know anything about Him, so that I am not concerned with the historical question, which is a very difficult one. I am concerned with Christ as He appears in the Gospels, taking the Gospel narrative as it stands, and there one does find some things that do not seem to be very wise. For one thing, he certainly thought his second coming would occur in clouds of glory before the death of all the people who were living at that time. There are a great many texts that prove that. He says, for instance: "Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel till the Son of Man be come." Then He says: "There are some standing here which shall not taste death till the Son of Man comes into His kingdom"; and there are a lot of places where it is quite clear that He believed His second coming would happen during the lifetime of many then living. That was the belief of his earlier followers, and it was the basis of a good deal of His moral teaching. When He said, "Take no thought for the morrow," and things of that sort, it was very largely because He thought the second coming was going to be very soon, and that all ordinary mundane affairs did not count. I have, as a matter of fact, known some Christians who did believe the second coming was imminent. I knew a parson who frightened his congregation terribly by telling them that the second coming was very imminent indeed, but they were much consoled when they found that he was planting trees in his garden. The early Christians really did believe it, and they did abstain from such things as planting trees in their gardens, because they did accept from Christ the belief that the second coming was imminent. In this respect clearly He was not so wise as some other people have been, and he certainly was not superlatively wise." - Bertrand Russell, Why I Am Not A Christian, March 6, 1927
 
The "end time" of what? Please define what you mean by "end time."

Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15 Finds a O.T. & a New T., Christ came in person the first time as God/Man at the ending of the O.T. He comes again shortly at the End of aprox. 6000 years of the N.T.. All Probation closes at that time for all of Eternity.

A 1000 year time of empty earth (see Jer. 4:22-27 except for satan & his fallen angels) & all of the lost dead that will at the End of 1000 years be Justly Executed. (see 1 Cor. 6:2-3) This finds the lost having their second resurection at the end of the 1000 years to die the final death according as to their records of works (see Eccl. 12:13-14) along with all evil angels which are all to be blotted out of Eternity. Obad. 1:16 + Nah. 1:9
 
Preterists believe that the Bible is speaking about the end of the old covenant of heaven & earth (Israel) The end of the age.

Another reason why I am a Preterist: I found this today. Another reason why I'm not waiting for Jesus to return literally or physically. His "presence" is here & now in the New Jerusalem on earth.(spiritual church)
You base your theology partly on a diatribe by a man who does not even beleive in Christ?
 
You base your theology partly on a diatribe by a man who does not even beleive in Christ?

No, I just read that today. And an atheist is one who doesn't even believe in God the Father, no to mention Jesus.

But my point for posting that was that I was impressed, for one, that even a ***Beep*** atheist understood Jesus' words.
And also that that was one of the reasons he rejected Christianity.
Those are the ones we need to witness to- sinners, not the Church choir. And frankly, that person died in their sins partly do to the Christians not believing in their own Savior's words. That's all.
 
No, I just read that today. And an atheist is one who doesn't even believe in God the Father, no to mention Jesus.

But my point for posting that was that I was impressed, for one, that even a ***Beep*** atheist understood Jesus' words.
And also that that was one of the reasons he rejected Christianity.
Those are the ones we need to witness to- sinners, not the Church choir. And frankly, that person died in their sins partly do to the Christians not believing in their own Savior's words. That's all.

Anyone who doesn't believe in God cannot believe in Jesus.

Russell didn't understand Jesus' words at all.
 
Russell didn't understand Jesus' words at all.

But that's equally true of many in the church. We've gotten away from traditional methods of reading and interpreting scripture, and have replaced much of our eschatology with books like "The Late Great Planet Earth", "Left Behind", and movies like "End of Days", The Seventh Sign" and "The Omen."

Look at how much this stuff has influenced the minds of people who can't tell fact from fiction.

When Christ says "this generation" (not once, but twice), when John writes four times in Revelation that the "time is near" and these things are "coming soon", what are we to believe: doctrine "served up" by publishers and movie-makers out to make a buck, or the words of Christ through the apostles?

I began a journey of personal discovery about 4 years ago in search of the truth of what the Bible REALLY says about these issues. I decided then that I was going to follow the evidence wherever I found it and wherever it led, because I believe all truth is God's truth.

The trail took me through the writings of Josephus and other ancient historians; it took me through some of the books of the Apocrypha, part of the Catholic Bible; it took me through the Old testament: Torah, Tanahk and Talmud.

I read Rabbinical writings, Christian authors, both futurist and preterist. And I did so having stripped off all the doctrine I had learned through years of Sunday School and Bible College.

I don't profess to have all the answers, but I am certainly confident when I write this: there is nothing more important to God than what He did through Christ on the Cross to save us. It is the pivotal moment in human and heavenly history.

And if God said He was going to take the kingdom away from that generation and give it to a people that would produce fruit, that says to me that both an end of one thing was reached and the beginning of something new began.


The "end time", therefore, has to be viewed through God's eyes and not ours.
{18} "For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Matthew 5:18 (NASB)
From God's point of view, all was accomplished at the cross:

{30} Therefore when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, "It is finished!" And He bowed His head and gave up His spirit. John 19:30 (NASB)
Until we start taking this seriously, unsound doctrine will continue to trump God's Word.

For what it's worth.
 
Studying uninspired writings for truth is treacherous, to say the very least. The truth is found in Scripture, and the only thing we need to do is ask Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to our spirits, and search the WORD. He will.
 
Studying uninspired writings for truth is treacherous, to say the very least. The truth is found in Scripture, and the only thing we need to do is ask Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to our spirits, and search the WORD. He will.

Please point me to the passage in scripture that reveals the law of gravity or the physics of flight. (If you can't find them in the Bible, might I suggest some of those "treacherous, uninspired writings?")

Looking forward to your prompt response. :thumbsup
 
Please point me to the passage in scripture that reveals the law of gravity or the physics of flight. (If you can't find them in the Bible, might I suggest some of those "treacherous, uninspired writings?")

Looking forward to your prompt response. :thumbsup

We are speaking of spiritual matters, here, are we not? Let's not get too combative.
 
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