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Wedding involving a broom. Can you tell me what religion?

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ThreeInOne

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Hi everyone!
I was just wondering. My parents recently went to a wedding where the bride and groom jumped over a broom.
The man who married them (don't know what you'd call him) mentioned things like "The Father, The Mother and The Son." :-?
She said it was the strangest wedding she had ever been to and everyone there had their jaw to the floor.
The bride wore a red and white gown. She was always into the gothic stuff but toned down the make up for the wedding. My mom said she may be over the gothic-phase.

Do any of you have any idea what this religion could have been? I'm guessing it's some kind of pagan &/or wiccan thing. I tried to search some stuff on the internet and I was getting a lot of "african wedding" stuff or even Jamacian. Both bride and groom are white.

Any ideas?
 
My information always said it was indeed an African tradition. During slave times they were not allowed to actually have a wedding with all the pomp & circumstance so they would just jump over the broom to signify a new life. I believe they used a broom since it sort of signifies a household.

As for as the other stuff, I have no idea about what religion it's from. I'm thinking NOT a wiccan thing. I know 2 wiccans from that "other place where you & I first met.
 
Interesting.

Well, it may not be wiccan but it still sounds like a pagan-type ceremony of some sort to me.

Most of my family is Catholic (unfortunately) and even their heads were spinning! :wink:

Yeah, I very much remember those wiccans from the other place we met! They're both full of beans!
 
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Yikes!

I think we laid waste to 3in1's thread. 8-)

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Yeah vic, I did look up the link you posted. It was actually the first place I went but thank you anyway.

Have a great 7/7/07 guys!!!!!! I already know women who had babies today and 1 wedding!!!! This is going to be a popular day! Better than June 6th of last year! :smt074
 
The man who married them (don't know what you'd call him) mentioned things like "The Father, The Mother and The Son."
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That right there would have and should have sent up red flags' all over the place. As well as jumping the broom. The (mother) statement makes me think of a lot of things.
 
Lewis W said:
That right there would have and should have sent up red flags' all over the place. As well as jumping the broom. The (mother) statement makes me think of a lot of things.
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Oh, I agree.
I know when she said "the Mother" that's where I had the problem. Made me think about Catholicism and Paganism (which Catholicism is Pagan anyway). But it also made me think of Wicca because of the "Goddess" and the worship of "Mother Earth" or whatever they call it.
Were those a couple of the things you were thinking, too?

Plus the bride was/is really into the gothic thing, which reminds me of things like witchcraft and the Wiccan religion. And hey, a broom would be fitting, right? :wink:
 
Wiccans have lovely marriage ceremonies called Handfastings where jumping over a broom is used to signify a new part of life. It's a good idea.
Craig
 
From the reference to Father, Mother, and Son, I would guess it might be Christian Wicca, or one of the other Christo-Pagan syncretic denominations.
 
Really?

Next time I see one of the thousands of them, I'll be sure to tell them they don't exist. I'm sure they'll be very surprised.
 
Don't be silly. You weren't referencing people but a belief and that is what I was responding to. The people exist who may believe such a thing, but there is no such belief as Christian Wiccanism or Wiccan Christianity. Christianity and Wicca and completely and irreconcilably different. One might as well be a Christian Atheist. People who believe the two are compatible believe in nonsense.
 
Havoc said:
Really?

Next time I see one of the thousands of them, I'll be sure to tell them they don't exist. I'm sure they'll be very surprised.
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Next thing you know, there will be Christian Satanism! :-?
 
Free said:
Don't be silly. You weren't referencing people but a belief and that is what I was responding to. The people exist who may believe such a thing, but there is no such belief as Christian Wiccanism or Wiccan Christianity. Christianity and Wicca and completely and irreconcilably different. One might as well be a Christian Atheist. People who believe the two are compatible believe in nonsense.
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In your opinion, of course.

The belief does exist. People do believe it. If there is a single person who does believe it, then the belief does, by definition, exist. I can assure you there are people who do believe in Christian Wicca. I don't personally believe it. I also have difficulty reconciling current fundamentalist protestant Christian beliefs with Wiccan beliefs myself. But then again, I'm not Christian Wiccan.

On the other hand, current fundamentalist protestant Christian beliefs aren't the only Christian beliefs out there either. There are over 3000 Christian sects with a huge variety of different beliefs, from Ultra Orthodox Christians to Radical Liberal Christians. Some Christians beliefs are contraary to any syncretism, some are not. perhaps Christian Wicca is more in line with a particular Christian sect that is different from the sect you currently belong to?

As far as what is nonsense is concerned, that pretty much depends on who you talk to. The average fundamentalist Jew, for instance, would call your pseudo-polytheistic view of God as a Trinity utter nonsense. Considering that most of wwhat you refer to as the bible belongs to them long before it was used by Christiaanity, they have at least as good a claim as you do... perhaps even better.

Now if you actuaally had some objective evidence to back up your claims that other people's beliefs are nonsense..... No? Alrighty then.
 
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In your opinion, of course.
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It is not my opinion, it is the logical conclusion based on what both religions teach.

Havoc said:
The belief does exist. People do believe it.
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I am not denying that people believe the two can both be believed. My point is that they are living in complete contradiction for believing both. This is an insurmountable problem for people who don't believe in absolutes -- logic goes out the window and one can believe two or more contradictory things to be true. But that is nonsense, in the literal definition of the word, as I noted previously.

Havoc said:
There are over 3000 Christian sects with a huge variety of different beliefs, from Ultra Orthodox Christians to Radical Liberal Christians. Some Christians beliefs are contraary to any syncretism, some are not. perhaps Christian Wicca is more in line with a particular Christian sect that is different from the sect you currently belong to?
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Likely they would be inline with Liberal Christian belief which is precisely why such "Christian" belief on it's own isn't even Christian. Liberal Christians have succumed to the very point I made above -- they've given in to the secular relavtivism and inclusiveness regarding religious belief.

While there are many different Christian denominations, there are many fundamental beliefs which are common to all -- this sets orthodoxy against heresy . This is precisely why so many denominations can even call themselves Christian and why some that do call themselves Christian are not.

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Now if you actuaally had some objective evidence to back up your claims that other people's beliefs are nonsense..... No? Alrighty then.
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So quick to dismiss? One piece of evidence is that you stated "I also have difficulty reconciling current fundamentalist protestant Christian beliefs with Wiccan beliefs myself". If you want objective evidence regarding the nonsense of believing in both Christianity and Wicca, then let's discuss the different fundamental beliefs and you will have your evidence.
 
It was Roman Catholic. Then my great aunt got on the broom and flew away.......

Actually, it is traditional African. The father and mother mess is the infiltration of the new age garbage. Like pouring out libations into a plant for one's deceased ancestors. I took a group of young tuffs out one night to an afrocentric thing, and they had them all pour cups of water into a plant as I said above. I refused to participate, went into a snit, and went back to the program leader and put my foot down about taking the kids to it anymore. And I didn't.
 
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