Bible Study What exactly is the unforgiveable sin?

[Christy]

Jesus said, "Therefore I tell you, people will be forgiven for every sin and blasphemy, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come." (Matthew 12: 31-32 NRSV)

Can anyone give me examples of this unforgiveable sin? :-? Thanks!

 

[saved4life]

Jesus said, "Therefore I tell you, people will be forgiven for every sin and blasphemy, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come." (Matthew 12: 31-32 NRSV)

Can anyone give me examples of this unforgiveable sin? :-? Thanks!

Don't know...

 

[Gary]

The Unpardonable Sin

The Unpardonable Sin

I will try and help... :-?

The Bible gives us the perfect example of the unpardonable sin.

Pharisees Commit the Unpardonable Sin (Matthew 12:31,32)

12:31 “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. 12:32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come. (NKJV)

12:31 the blasphemy against the Spirit. The sin Jesus was confronting was the Pharisees’ deliberate rejection of that which they knew to be of God (cf. John 11:48; Acts 4:16). They could not deny the realty of what the Holy Spirit had done through Him, so they attributed to Satan a work that they knew was of God (v. 24; Mark 3:22).

12:32 it will be forgiven him. Someone never exposed to Christ’s divine power and presence might reject Him in ignorance and be forgivenâ€â€assuming the unbelief gives way to genuine repentance. Even a Pharisee such as Saul of Tarsus could be forgiven for speaking “against the Son of Man†or persecuting His followersâ€â€because his unbelief stemmed from ignorance (1 Tim. 1:13). But those who know His claims are true and reject Him anyway sin “against the Holy Spiritâ€Ââ€â€because it is the Holy Spirit who testifies of Christ and makes His truth known to us (John 15:26; 16:14, 15). No forgiveness was possible for these Pharisees who witnessed His miracles firsthand, knew the truth of His claims, and still blasphemed the Holy Spiritâ€â€because they had already rejected the fullest possible revelation.

Source: John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible.

I can post something a bit longer if it is still unclear.

 

[John the Baptist]

Jesus said, "Therefore I tell you, people will be forgiven for every sin and blasphemy, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come." (Matthew 12: 31-32 NRSV)

Can anyone give me examples of this unforgiveable sin? :-? Thanks!

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Hi, John here: (Israel of old for one! See Matt. 23:38 & Rev. 3:16-17 for another being 'spewed out'! Sickening. Both are complete denominations)

First: All sin is not the sin unto death! See 1 John 5:16-17. But, 'Christian' mankind must first have a starting point with the 'earnest' of the Holy Spirit given. And before the 'fall' (heaven included) ALL were perfect with NO sin. These were to be tested! (tree in the 'midst' of the garden) Even this fall, was not the sin unto death.

The first example is found in Gen. 4:6-7 for the sin unto death. (on earth) It was the Word (Christ) speaking to Cain. There was no record of Cain not being faithful up to this point? But here we see a 'mature' professed Christian person talking to the Master face to face. (or at least the fullness of Word to word) Remember that he was saved by the offering of the Lamb sacrifice 'in Faith' up until this time.

Notice the above in this setting of James 1:15? Any & all sin is sin, yet, it is not the 'FINISHED' [END] at the START! When one makes a MATURE DECISION to violate the Word of God, this is moving towards the (going towards the full cup) sin unto death. We are 'LED' of the Holy Spirit when converted, (Born Again) yet, the FREEDOM of choice is always ours to use! If we steal?? then, we sin. This is still not the sin unto death! Yet, if we steal again & again, we are grieving the one who is trying to lead us! See Rom. 8:14.

Now: One that is a MATURE Christian does not apply this to just any sin ALONE! The worst of offenders of the Master's Word are [professed] Ministers! (see Luke 12:47-48) Not only do they pass the boundaries of their probation, but they will be judged by far the worse in hells punishment! This is called the sin of OMMISION. (THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING) Their full cup comes at the passing of the boundaries of the Holy Spirit's trying to 'lead' them to get them to do a 'correcting' of KNOWN FALSE DOCTRINE & OPENLY DONE AND UN/REPENTED SIN IN THEIR DENOMINATIONS! Such as Sunday sacredness.

Read Gen. 6:3 And you will see that the Holy Spirits work is to [STRIVE WITH MAN!] (both the saved, once saved, & the never saved) Yet, it is God that says that.. "MY SPIRIT WILL NOT ALWAYS STRIVE WITH MAN". When MATURE REBELLION comes, it is not possible for God to reach us! See Heb. 6:6. If you read ONLY the [POSITIVES] first, you will see that these one were at one time MADE PARTAKERS OF THE HOLY GHOST!

Peter in 'Inspiration' speaks the Words VERY CLEAR! See 2 Peter 2:19-22.
Verse 19 starts out with these ones 'identification'! They PROMISE THEM LIBERTY. That is what 'Once Saved Always Saved' bottom line is! Then Peter tells us that it is not truth! The 'Word' of course is seen in verse 20, that of being OVERCOME. Again right back to James 1:15, 1 John 5:16-17 & Cain's MATURE dis/obedience.

The simple test for us is.. "IF YE LOVE ME, KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS". (All of them) In John 15 Christ told us an ETERNAL TRUTH, (other worlds as well!) He says.. "WITHOUT ME YE CAN DO NOTHING". But, if we do not keep His commandments, how can we be, but WITHOUT HIM???

Hope this helps? Psalms 19:13 is another good 'insight' for understanding what presumptious OPEN sin endangers! We might never know how close David & Saul (Paul) came to this ending? And another?? Last one :fadein:!
King Saul was given the Holy Spirit of God. And latter on the Holy Spirit was removed from King Saul. Saul had made an excellant start! Yet his FINISH was MATURE with the 'sin unto death'. :

---John

 

[John the Baptist]

Jesus said, "Therefore I tell you, people will be forgiven for every sin and blasphemy, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come." (Matthew 12: 31-32 NRSV)

Can anyone give me examples of this unforgiveable sin? :-? Thanks!

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Hi, John here: (Israel of old for one! See Matt. 23:38 & Rev. 3:16-17 for another being 'spewed out'! Sickening. Both are complete denominations)

First: All sin is not the sin unto death! See 1 John 5:16-17. But, 'Christian' mankind must first have a starting point with the 'earnest' of the Holy Spirit given. And before the 'fall' (heaven included) ALL were perfect with NO sin. These were to be tested! (tree in the 'midst' of the garden) Even this fall, was not the sin unto death.

The first example is found in Gen. 4:6-7 for the sin unto death. (on earth) It was the Word (Christ) speaking to Cain. There was no record of Cain not being faithful up to this point? But here we see a 'mature' professed Christian person talking to the Master face to face. (or at least the fullness of Word to word) Remember that he was saved by the offering of the Lamb sacrifice 'in Faith' up until this time.

Notice the above in this setting of James 1:15? Any & all sin is sin, yet, it is not the 'FINISHED' [END] at the START! When one makes a MATURE DECISION to violate the Word of God, this is moving towards the (going towards the full cup) sin unto death. We are 'LED' of the Holy Spirit when converted, (Born Again) yet, the FREEDOM of choice is always ours to use! If we steal?? then, we sin. This is still not the sin unto death! Yet, if we steal again & again, we are grieving the one who is trying to lead us! See Rom. 8:14.

Now: One that is a MATURE Christian does not apply this to just any sin ALONE! The worst of offenders of the Master's Word are [professed] Ministers! (see Luke 12:47-48) Not only do they pass the boundaries of their probation, but they will be judged by far the worse in hells punishment! This is called the sin of OMMISION. (THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING) Their full cup comes at the passing of the boundaries of the Holy Spirit's trying to 'lead' them to get them to do a 'correcting' of KNOWN FALSE DOCTRINE & OPENLY DONE AND UN/REPENTED SIN IN THEIR DENOMINATIONS! Such as Sunday sacredness.

Read Gen. 6:3 And you will see that the Holy Spirits work is to [STRIVE WITH MAN!] (both the saved, once saved, & the never saved) Yet, it is God that says that.. "MY SPIRIT WILL NOT ALWAYS STRIVE WITH MAN". When MATURE REBELLION comes, it is not possible for God to reach us! See Heb. 6:6. If you read ONLY the [POSITIVES] first, you will see that these one were at one time MADE PARTAKERS OF THE HOLY GHOST!

Peter in 'Inspiration' speaks the Words VERY CLEAR! See 2 Peter 2:19-22.
Verse 19 starts out with these ones 'identification'! They PROMISE THEM LIBERTY. That is what 'Once Saved Always Saved' bottom line is! Then Peter tells us that it is not truth! The 'Word' of course is seen in verse 20, that of being OVERCOME. Again right back to James 1:15, 1 John 5:16-17 & Cain's MATURE dis/obedience.

The simple test for us is.. "IF YE LOVE ME, KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS". (All of them) In John 15 Christ told us an ETERNAL TRUTH, (other worlds as well!) He says.. "WITHOUT ME YE CAN DO NOTHING". But, if we do not keep His commandments, how can we be, but WITHOUT HIM???

Hope this helps? Psalms 19:13 is another good 'insight' for understanding what presumptious OPEN sin endangers! We might never know how close David & Saul (Paul) came to this ending? And another?? Last one :fadein:!
King Saul was given the Holy Spirit of God. And latter on the Holy Spirit was removed from King Saul. Saul had made an excellant start! Yet his FINISH was MATURE with the 'sin unto death'. :

---John

 

[Christy]

Thank you Gary Bee and John - I believe you are right about the unpardonable sin. I appreciate the time you spent on your answers and I am copying them for future reference! :D :B-fly:

-Christy

 

[Gary]

It is a pleasure

It is a pleasure.....

Regards
In Christ
Gary

 

[AVBunyan]

Unpardonable sin

The Unpardonable sin:
Maybe I missed something here – the parallel passage to Matt. 12:31 is found in Mark.

Mark 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
Mark 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
Mark 3:30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.

The key is found is verse 30 – The Pharisees looked Christ in the eye and basically said He had an unclean spirit. There is not way anybody today can commit this sin for Jesus Christ is not walking around bodily. The sin was telling Christ to His face he had an unclean spirit (vs. 30). Some have used this verse to teach that when one attacks the work of the Holy Spirit (gifts) in another they’ve committed this sin – it won’t work. Again, vs. 30 explains it – simple as that. Sometimes we make doctrine out of stretched application.

 

[John the Baptist]

Thank you Gary Bee and John - I believe you are right about the unpardonable sin. I appreciate the time you spent on your answers and I am copying them for future reference! :D :B-fly:

-Christy

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Hi again Christy:
The Holy Spirit was active in creation as seen in Gen. 1. Yet, even in the old testament Christ (as God) was with His choosen ones. He was in the cloud by day & a pilliar of fire night. Paul tells us that he would not want us to be ignorant! See 1 Cor. 10:1-*3! And in Neh. 9:6-15 we see there something that needs reading & study! We see that it was this Christ that came down on Mt. Sinai and gave the ten commandments & madest know the holy sabbath, (+, and notice!) and commandanded them precepts, statutes, and laws, [BY THE HAND OF MOSES:"]

All of this was done by Christ here on earth in the Old Testament!
Now: When Christ sent the Holy Spirit back to earth after His resurrection, His primary duty was to uphold Christ! Jesus stated that He would not testify of Himself.

Now for the 'MATURE' unpardonable sin?? Noah preached for an 120 years! The Ark's door of probation did what? The DOOR WAS SHUT! They were given ample time. And in Gen. 4:7 we see Christ the Word (that was on earth) speak at least by voice to Cain. Cain was told that all that he needed to do was.. 'DO WELL' and that he would be accepted. This was his MATURE face to face encounter against Obedience to Christ. And who became Cain's desire from then on? Probation closed for Cain!

One could go on & on, including Matt. 25's Virgin Fold seen with a probational [CLOSED DOOR]! But, perhaps King Saul is an 'eye' opener for some? He started out very humble. Then as he matured, he made wrong decisions and matured in the opposite direction. But notice 1 Sam. 10:6
"And the Spirit of the Lord [will come upon thee, and thou shalt prophesy with them, AND THOU SHALT BE TURNED INTO ANOTHER MAN." And in verse 9 it says that God gave him [ANOTHER HEART]! See 2 Cor. 3:3 & Heb. 10:15-16.

Converted for sure! Yet, we hear all kinds of 'saved forever'! Or once saved always saved! Or, ONLY believe! But, so far with not even considering the earlier passages, Saul looked to be in that class of ones, huh?

First, again remember the message from Christ to Cain. He rejected the Word of Christ in 'maturity'. But the important issue is who it was that NOW took over his rule? (whose DESIRE had he now-satan) Ok, back to King Saul. We saw that he became a changed man, BORN AGAIN! And this can ONLY happen by Obedience! See Acts 5:32-Matt. 28:20.

In 1 Sam. 16:14 we see the COMPLETE TRUTH! Everlasting Gospel & Everlasting Coventant are C-O-N-D-I-T-I-O-N-A-L!! (See Rev. 14:6 & Heb. 13:20 for EVERLASTING) The 'inspired Word says' "But the Spirit of the Lord [DEPARTED] from Saul, *AND AN [EVIL SPIRIT] ... troubled him"

One needs to read all of Sauls life history to see why Saul was rejected. Chapter 28 is a real eye/opener for the sincere Christian. Read from verse 3 on. Samual, the prophet of the Lord was dead & Saul was in deep trouble! But God would have NOTHING to do with Saul, so who did he [now] go to for advice? His probation was over & he had choosen a 'new' leader! (See Rev. 3:9 for new leaders)

Hope this helps?
---John

 

[Bick]

"The unpardonable sin"

Christie, the answer is in the verse you quoted, Matt. 12:31,32. Jesus said blaspheming the Holy Spirit, or saying to Jesus he did the miracles by Satan, was not pardonable IN THIS AGE OR IN THE AGE TO COME.
Capitals mine for emphasis.

"This age" was during Jesus earthly ministry, and is continuing until His second coming in power and great glory to establish His millenial kingeom.
Thus, the millenium is "the age to come."

Christ is the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. John 1:29

He is the propitiatory shelter for our sins, and not only for ours but for the sins of the whole world. 1 John 1:29.

Quoting 2 Cor.5:19 from the NIT: "God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men's sins against them."

Does this mean there is no sin in the world, that mankind will not have to answer for his deeds? No indeed! All will be judged for their acts, including the Church , Christ's body. But we, the body of Christ who are saved, will be judged in heaven to give account of out deeds as Christians.

God bless you, Arnold

 

[Ray Martinez]

Jesus said, "Therefore I tell you, people will be forgiven for every sin and blasphemy, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come." (Matthew 12: 31-32 NRSV)

Can anyone give me examples of this unforgiveable sin? :-? Thanks!

Nobody knows what the unpardonable sin is.

Gary argued in a circle pointing out that "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit" is unpardonable.

In context, blaspheming the H.S. was the deliberate crediting of a work of God to be Satan's WHEN THEY THE PHARISEES KNEW IT WAS FROM GOD.

In the context above - that was held as unpardonable by Jesus.

Thus, asserting Satan when you KNEW it was from God = unpardonable.

Most people comfort themselves and say within themselves that they would never do that, thus they are immune from committing the unpardonable sin.

Not true.

The unpardonable sin is different for everyone.

Whatever it is - when you do it - God will let you go and give you over to a strong delusion and allow you to believe something that is not true and you will be damned.

IOW, the unpardonable sin is the last straw of disobedience in defiance to the known will of God in your life.

Whatever ACT it happens to be will result in the tension between you and God disappearing.

Here is my point:

Is there a way to know if you have committed the unpardonable sin ?

Answer: Yes.

IF you have you will cease to care what God thinks of you or what the Bible says.

Therefore, IF you have ANY feelings for God then you have not committed the unpardonable sin.

"A smoking flax He will not quench...."

Ray Martinez

 

[John the Baptist]

Perhaps there are some verses here to check out?

2 Peter 2:19-22 gives more 'Inspiration'. But is it really a requirement to live by Matthew 4:4's Every Word??? You know, EVERLASTING GOSPEL??

If so, then it seems that these below which are past/tense, as Holy Spirit released ones, did not think so!! These (these were the ones who had at one time escaped!) have Grieved & Quenched His Leading for the very last time. (Romans 8:14) His STRIVING had been of NO AVAIL! Genesis 6:3 They were left to follow their DESIRED one, as did Cain. Genesis 4:7. The Lord had simply asked of them, that "IF YE LOVE ME, KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS', all ten, yet, was there 'true' love seen?

It seems that some promise them liberty, yet are servants of corruption & is really in bondage! Commandment breakers!! See v. 19.

"For if after they have escaped the pollution's of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled there in, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than after they had known it, to turn from the Holy Commandment delivered unto them.

But it happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire."

And what is new??? The Eccl. verses.

Can a person just continue on rejecting the STRIVING of the Holy Spirit when the Holy Spirit leads one into Truth, by Quenching & Grieving Him for long?? See 1 Samuel 15:19-20!! And then finally 1 Samuel 16:14. Surely we realize what was to follow on here?? And what about a whole denomination?? Matthew 23:38 & Revelation 2:5. Who takes over man at this time? See Revelation 3:9! (and yes, that is the whole fold or church)

And Paul in Hebrews 6:5-6 let's all of the UNIVERSE see in ETERNAL Documentation what had been done in Sauls case! (plus others seen here in the verse) Whole 'candlesticks as in Rev. 2:5 & Rev. 17:5, finds many such false teaching ABOMINATION OF THE EARTH FOLDS, CUT OFF!

No, these ones had all been prophesied as being Christians in name only. Even seen by 'all', but not known by them in Rev. 3:9. Notice the reading of Hebrews 6:5-6.

"And have tasted the good Word of God, and the powers of the world to come.
(the previous verse stated flat out that these ones had 'BEEN MADE PARTAKERS OF THE HOLY GHOST' EVEN! ... For it is IMPOSSIBLE FOR THOSE..)

If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing that they crucify to the Son of God afresh, and put Him to an open shame."

So, we see in Luke 12:47-48 that the ones that are judged by far the worse in the day of Judgement, and the ones who will burn the longest for their rejection of all of Christ's requirements, are these seen here who are the ones who professed to know Christ, but refused the Holy Spirit 'STRIVING' to LEAD them! Rom. 8:14 again. Try Hosea 4:6.

Just a closing thought. Do you think that any here on the forum are able to be 'led' into all Truth? When God states.. Everlasting Gospel & Everlasting Covenant, how long is that??? That 'Inspiration' alone from the HOLY GHOST, would tell any 'submitted' person being Led, that most all of the worlds confession is the garbage of Matthew 7's Broad way lost ones. Christ is the Christ of the Gospel, [THE ETERNAL CENTERFOLD], with no Christ, then one has NO EVERLASTING GOSPEL, PERIOD!

Hope that this helps? :fadein: ---John

 

[bibleberean]

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Understanding how to "rightly divide the word of truth" is critical in understanding to whom, how and when certain scriptures apply.


05 The Four Gospels

Rightly Dividing the Word, by Clarence Larkin, 1920

Chapter 5: The Four Gospels

The word "Gospel" means "Good News," and is so familiar that its application is supposed to be uniform. When, therefore, we read of The Gospel of the KINGDOM, The Gospel of the GRACE OF GOD, The GLORIOUS GOSPEL, and The EVERLASTING GOSPEL, it is taken for granted that they all refer to one and the same thing. But this is not true.

1. THE GOSPEL OF THE "KINGDOM." Mt 24:14.

This is the "Good News" that God purposes to set up a Kingdom on this earth over which David's Son, JESUS, shall reign, as prophesied in Lu 1:32-33. Two preachings of this Gospel are mentioned, one past, beginning with the ministry of John the Baptist, and preached by Jesus and His Disciples, but it ended with the rejection of Jesus as King.

This Gospel is to be preached again after the Church is taken out. It will be the fulfilment of Mt 24:14, where it says: "This Gospel of `THE KINGDOM' shall be preached in all the world for a WITNESS unto all nations; and then shall the end come."

This has no reference to the Gospel that is now being preached to the nations. It is the Gospel of SALVATION, but the "Gospel of the Kingdom" is not for "Salvation" but for a WITNESS, that is, it is the announcement that the time has come to SET UP THE KINGDOM. It will be preached by Elijah the forerunner (Mal 4:5-6), and by others who shall be commissioned to bear the news to all nations as a proclamation of the coming of Christ as King to occupy the "Throne of David," and for the purpose of regathering Israel to the Promised Land.

2. THE GOSPEL OF "THE GRACE OF GOD." Ac 20:24.

This is the "Good News" that Jesus Christ, the rejected King, died on the Cross for our SALVATION. This form of the Gospel is described in many ways. It is called the "GOSPEL OF GOD" (Ro 1:1), because it has its source in the LOVE OF GOD. Joh 3:16. Its Character is GRACE. Ac 20:24. Its Subject is CHRIST (Ro 1:16; 2Co 10:14), and it is the POWER OF GOD UNTO SALVATION. And it is the "GOSPEL OF PEACE," because it makes peace between the sinner and God, and brings peace to the soul. Eph 6:15.

3. THE "GLORIOUS" GOSPEL. 2Co 4:4; 1Ti 1:11.

The "GLORIOUS GOSPEL" is that phase of the Gospel of "The Grace of God" that speaks of Him who is in the GLORY, and has been GLORIFIED, and who is bringing many sons TO GLORY. Heb 2:10. It has special reference to His Second Coming, and is especially comforting to those who are looking for His GLORIOUS APPEARING (Tit 2:13), and it is to this Gospel that Satan, the "God of this Age," is particularly anxious to "blind the minds" of those who believe not in the Pre-Millennial coming of the Lord. 2Co 4:3-4.

4. THE "EVERLASTING" GOSPEL. Re 14:6.

This Gospel will be proclaimed just before the "Vial judgments," and by an angel. It is the only Gospel committed to an angel. It is neither the Gospel of the "Kingdom," nor of "Grace." Its burden is not SALVATION but JUDGMENT-- "Fear God, and give glory to Him; for the HOUR OF HIS JUDGMENT IS COME."

It is "Good News" to Israel, and all who are passing through the "fires of judgment," because it declares that their troubles will soon end in the judgment and Destruction of Antichrist and his followers. It calls on men to worship God as "CREATOR," and not as "Saviour" and so it is called in the Revised version-- "THE ETERNAL GOSPEL," the Gospel that has been proclaimed from Eden down by Patriarchs and Prophets, and not an "Everlasting Gospel" in the sense that it saves men for all eternity. Its burden is not "Repent," or "do this" or "do that," but "FEAR GOD, and give GLORY TO HIM; for the HOUR OF HIS JUDGMENT IS COME; and WORSHIP HIM THAT MADE HEAVEN, AND EARTH, AND THE SEA, AND THE FOUNTAINS OF WATERS."

From this we see how important it is to distinguish between the various Gospels, not only as to their message, but the period to which they apply, otherwise there will be confusion and false teaching. See Chart, The Four Gospels.

There is also "ANOTHER GOSPEL" (Ga 1:6-12; 2Co 11:4), which is not another, and which Paul repudiated. It is a perversion of the true Gospel and has many seductive forms, and in the main teaches that "FAITH" is NOT SUFFICIENT to Salvation, nor able to keep and perfect, and so emphasizes "GOOD WORKS." Col 2:18-23; Heb 6:1; 9:14. The Apostle Paul pronounces a fearful "Anathema" upon its preachers and teachers. Ga 1:8-9.

 

[yesha]

Since Jesus died for all sins, which sin then can't be forgiven?
I think simply the rejection of the Gospel, because by rejecting the Gospel, people then don't accept the forgiveness that God offers. Forgiving this sin would be like forcing salvation upon someone who said no to grace.

By blaspheming the Spirit, they were essentially rejecting the very thing that can save them. If some sin leads someone to become an apostate, then that sin 'led' to the unforgivable sin, yet it is not 'technically, imo, the unforgivable sin.

Also I do believe that if someone repents of this sin, then it can be forgiven, thus all sins can be forgiven with repentance, where the grace of God can forgive all sins, except rejecting forgiveness.

 

[quadding101]

Gary gave u a good description of what the scribes did and what the unpardonable sin is, but there is more to it. It is rejecting the truth (Jesus or God and their truth) when u know that truth. What happens when u commit the unpardonable sin? God's Spirit is grieved away from u and He will never return to u. If u live on u r just commiting sin which makes ur stay in hell worse and there is no more repentance for u (no one comes to God unless the Spirit draws them). This can happen to u without slandering God's Spirit as the scribes did. The bible says (God will not always strive with man). It also says that one can be turned over to a reprobate mind to believe a lie and be damned. When God turns u over to a reprobate mind His Spirit is grieved away just as if u commited the unpardonable sin. This usually happens when someone is wicked or they want some abomination (read the romans chp 1). The bible says that in the last days that the love of many (many usually means most) will wax cold. God is love and He is all the love that is in the world and when the love is completely gone from hearts then it is no great deduction that people have grieved God's Spirit away from them. I hope this helps u.

 

[John the Baptist]

Genesis 6:3 finds that the Striving of the Holy Spirit comes to an end when He can no longer reach us. Regardless of who we claim to follow, or are led by? Romans 8:14

Who can be more responsible than these in Luke 12:47-48?
Or as deceived as was Cain in Genesis 4:7 while in person to person discussion with God Himself?

Surely one does not need to look far off to see that ones 'will' is being settled one way or the other today, do they? But, that is by my free choice, right?

So, can I be reached by the Holy Spirit, or am I quenching & qriving Him away for perhaps the last time???? Acts 5:32, 1 Thessalonians 5:19 or Ephesians 4:30.

---John

 

[Bick]

Unpardonable sin

HI Christie and all:

If there are sins that are "unpardonable", what do these verses mean?

John 1:29, RSV, "Behold the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world."

Rom.5:18 "Therefore just as one man's trespass led to condemnation for all, so one man's act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all."

2 Cor.5:18-19 "All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliction; that is, in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting the message of reconciliation to us."

1 Tim.2:5 "For there is one God; there is also one mediator between God and mankind, Christ Jesus himself human, who gave himself a ransom for all..."

1 John 2:1-2 "..Jesus Christ the righteous; and He is the expiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.:

God bless you. Bick

 

[slanglep]

Zec 4: 6 Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

I would put it this way. If you have ever felt the presence of the Holy Spirit I would describe it as LOVE times 1,000,0000. Man can hardly fathom the amount of Love God has for us.

By blaspheming his spirit you are rejecting that love. I can see someone that does not know God mocking his Spirit but anyone that has ever felt it's presence and then blasphemed it by all rights should never be forgiven.

 

[Merry Menagerie]

I tend to lean more in this direction.....

Since Jesus died for all sins, which sin then can't be forgiven?
I think simply the rejection of the Gospel, because by rejecting the Gospel, people then don't accept the forgiveness that God offers. Forgiving this sin would be like forcing salvation upon someone who said no to grace.

By blaspheming the Spirit, they were essentially rejecting the very thing that can save them. If some sin leads someone to become an apostate, then that sin 'led' to the unforgivable sin, yet it is not 'technically, imo, the unforgivable sin.

Also I do believe that if someone repents of this sin, then it can be forgiven, thus all sins can be forgiven with repentance, where the grace of God can forgive all sins, except rejecting forgiveness.

People who resist the prompting of the Holy Spirit to be saved thus forfeiting the blood of Jesus Christ to cover their sin - thus they continue to 'willfully sin'. But if, down the track, they change their mind and wish to to be saved then I believe that they can be forgiven...but not until they enter God's covering through Jesus Christ.

 

[Rick W]

I would put it this way. If you have ever felt the presence of the Holy Spirit I would describe it as LOVE times 1,000,0000. Man can hardly fathom the amount of Love God has for us.

God's raw love would kill any man. Flesh couldn't handle it.