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Bible Study What flows from Yhwh to His Own Sons so they know what to do ?

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His_nee (Jeff)

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This is something I just learned. A new and right way of looking at this subject in english... or describing it, as best as able, without knowing Hebrew (but absolutely from Hebrew and in line with all of Scripture and all of Yhwh's Ways.).
I don't know when I can answer this question. It is open for now, and there honestly may be 12 or more right answers -- all alive and true in Yeshua's Wisdom and Knowledge and Grace. Like a beautiful diamond cut perfectly with hundreds of glistening facets, fascinating from any angle; nothing to compare it to.
There is also one simple answer, that encompasses all the others, and is throughout the Bible.
(no, it is not 'Love', although Love perfectly comes from Yhwh always; --- 'Love' in american english has too many connotations that are opposed to the Bible, and too many ramifications and too many results contrary to the Bible (just in english!/ feelings/ mankind's usage....... Not the true Love from God, so please don't think I fell off the rocking chair! :) ) ... ... ... ...
 
yes, all correct, 'partially' so to speak, as each - Wisdom, and knowledge, and understanding - is incomplete by itself and all three together still don't include all that Yhwh provides so we "His children" may know all He has for us and wants us to know and do. Admittedly, Wisdom, knowledge and understanding could conceivably include everything without expanding their meanings unduely, perhaps anyway, but something else much more pervasive? and full and complete includes everything, I think.
Gary said:
Wisdom, knowledge and understanding.
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http://tinyurl.com/flowingfromYhwh
(in any language)(please realize that a bit of reading and revelation is needed as the standard definitions don't suffice nor explain)
and Shalom in Yeshua to all who love the truth and seek Abba for His Help and Directions to follow Him!
 
holy Spirit is beyond description, except as Yhwh reveals. and Yhwh leads us, guides us, teaches us, renews us, refreshes us, sustains us, 'does miracles among us' ... ... ... ... by His Spirit. delightfully or otherwise .

and Jesus Perfectly laid down His own volition/will/life to do what flowed from ABBA - what ABBA spoke or did, Jesus did.
Always.
as He said and lived and abided in ABBA and tells us to abide in His Word, in union with ABBA!:

"If you obey my commands, you will remain in my love". (John 15:10)


Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled [lived according to] the Torah. The commandments, "Do not commit adultery," "Do not murder," "Do not steal," "Do not covet," and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: "Love your neighbor as yourself." Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the Torah. (Romans 13:8-10)


We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. The man who says, "I know him," but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys his word, God's love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Yeshua did. (1 John 2:3-6)
 
All that Yahweh is, is found in Yeshua. We are to study Him, what He did, in other words Knowledge of Jesus the Christ reveals who Yahweh is, and how we should respond in every situation.
 
All the answers are correct, in the right spirit.
The point was that Torah flows* continually from Yhwh to His people, as described in the Scriptures,
and it
is not what is commonly thought amongst many Jews as well as any gentiles.

*flows but not as if impersonal, not as if data, not as if sent separate from and let loose;
rather a continual relationship, a constant abiding, in Yeshua, every moment of every day, closer than a new born baby and his mother;
also , not as if optional. (except that everyone is of course totally free to reject Jesus, as well as to accept Him as Messiah Savior Judge Lord Comforter Shepherd Friend Healer Provider Nourisher Succourer Teacher. )
 
Where do you get the idea that something "flows from Yhwh to His Own Sons so they know what to do"?

I'm simply concerned that this idea, if misused, could lead to a sort of self righteous elitism among those who claim the title of His Own Sons as divine justification for any action they take.
 
Sinthesis said:
Where do you get the idea that something "flows from Yhwh to His Own Sons so they know what to do"?

I'm simply concerned that this idea, if misused, could lead to a sort of self righteous elitism among those who claim the title of His Own Sons as divine justification for any action they take.
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I've seen this in some Christians Sinthesis and it leads them towards licentiousness imo.
 
what flows from Yhwh to His sons so they can have true life and know from Him what to do never leads to sin, rather very effectively stops sin, and even the desire for sin is gone, as well as the penalty for sin having been dealt with.
it is only in those who are NOT His Sons that they get into still more trouble, because they think that they can choose what to do and what not to do instead of doing what they're told to do as His sons.
His sons are so rare - truly the exception instead of the rule,
and likewise the hypocrites are so common, the rule on this world(i.e. the common examples and lies accepted as truth when it's not even close!) -- i.e. the 'standards' seen on/in this world of sin and death,
are just that.
His true sons are 'set apart' --- i.e. "Holy" --- in Yeshua, abiding in His Word and His Word abiding in them, even "Flowing" from Him , from His Thrown of Grace constantly and sustaining and nourishing and leading and teaching and training..... and guiding and uplifting and chastening and chastising and disciplining ... .. i.e. All in All... ...
and as 1 John chapters 1 thru 5 shows, ... ... ... ... ...
... ... ... ... .. ...
well, it's a short read :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
 
Hmmm. We are to be led by the Spirit. Sooo, Guidance...instructions...the Word of God!
uh-oh. i dea for a new thread. Look for it!
 
His_nee (Jeff) said:
what flows from Yhwh to His sons so they can have true life and know from Him what to do never leads to sin, rather very effectively stops sin, and even the desire for sin is gone, as well as the penalty for sin having been dealt with.
it is only in those who are NOT His Sons that they get into still more trouble, because they think that they can choose what to do and what not to do instead of doing what they're told to do as His sons.
His sons are so rare - truly the exception instead of the rule,
and likewise the hypocrites are so common, the rule on this world(i.e. the common examples and lies accepted as truth when it's not even close!) -- i.e. the 'standards' seen on/in this world of sin and death,
are just that.
His true sons are 'set apart' --- i.e. "Holy" --- in Yeshua, abiding in His Word and His Word abiding in them, even "Flowing" from Him , from His Thrown of Grace constantly and sustaining and nourishing and leading and teaching and training..... and guiding and uplifting and chastening and chastising and disciplining ... .. i.e. All in All... ...
and as 1 John chapters 1 thru 5 shows, ... ... ... ... ...
... ... ... ... .. ...
well, it's a short read :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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If this were true then the Sons of God would have never desired the daughters of men.:twocents
 
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