what gives w/ education?

[Christ_empowered]

OK. I'm in an American History class. We're currently on the early days of America, post-Revolutionary War. Public education got a jump start because the schools were supposed to instill basic values and principles, along with some basic education.

Which makes me wonder...what are public schools, even state colleges, teaching the younger generations these days? One of my early sociology classes taught us: education is an institution. It serves to socialize people.

Public schools now have police officers, mandatory IDs, locker searches. Colleges apparently lead Christian young people away from the faith. I don't have a link, but a lot of people who identify as Christian going into college aren't so Christian coming out.

Kids are required to get more education now than back in the day, but what sort of morals are we drilling into them? And college...wow. College costs more and a degree means less, in terms of jobs and job stability. A lot of people are better off w/ a 2 year degree (I wish I'd gone the tech school route for nursing or something, but...hey, Liberty's been good to me, lol).

So...yeah...ramble time over...what are we teaching kids in school? And the socialization component...what morals are they learning?

 

[evenifigoalone]

There are things, even some careers, you can do with just a highschool diploma, but the gist I'm getting is that it's harder to find.
My mom is hounding me about NOT going to college because she thinks it'll turn me into an atheist, and she insists that I need to watch this DVD set she got from Answers in Genesis about this. (TBH, I think Answers in Genesis comes off as a little paranoid sometimes, even though I do find their resources interesting.)

College-wise, here are some thoughts from a blog I follow on tumblr, the author is Christian (attending seminary I believe?): http://bonniekristian.com/post/106064455767/do-you-have-any-information-about-political-bias

Public schools I can't say much about since I was homeschooled, and I'm not a parent.

 

[Cturtle]

Definately something to be praying about. I mean they took prayer out of schools, and if you say anything about God there is someone from somewhere jumping up and down, saying that we cannot say that. Which is not true. If my children were little i would not have them in public school. Christian school or college, or homeschool. We have to protect what our children are being taught

 

[bluegirl]

OK. I'm in an American History class. We're currently on the early days of America, post-Revolutionary War. Public education got a jump start because the schools were supposed to instill basic values and principles, along with some basic education.

Which makes me wonder...what are public schools, even state colleges, teaching the younger generations these days? One of my early sociology classes taught us: education is an institution. It serves to socialize people.

Public schools now have police officers, mandatory IDs, locker searches. Colleges apparently lead Christian young people away from the faith. I don't have a link, but a lot of people who identify as Christian going into college aren't so Christian coming out.

Kids are required to get more education now than back in the day, but what sort of morals are we drilling into them? And college...wow. College costs more and a degree means less, in terms of jobs and job stability. A lot of people are better off w/ a 2 year degree (I wish I'd gone the tech school route for nursing or something, but...hey, Liberty's been good to me, lol).

So...yeah...ramble time over...what are we teaching kids in school? And the socialization component...what morals are they learning?

Universities might not say it, but they are mostly of the belief (academics being they) that nothing can be taught, professors expose students to stuff and students show they understand it and pass. But as for really learning anything, the student is responsible to put it all together. This is good and bad. Bad because dot connectors are generally frowned on if they connect the dots religiously, in a christian way, unless it is a christian college. Good because dot connecting is not on its own frowned upon. It's great if all teachers could be supportive of students and their own discoveries, but that is rare. When I was teaching I tried but it's not easy and it's probably why my teaching contract was not renewed (it was a catholic university and I was not catholic enough?) A solution is to be a dot connector but be adaptive enough to know what dots can be discussed in the 'climate' that prevails. oh well.

 

[Milk-Drops]

Schools are there (in theory) to educate the next generation, so when they go to college, trades, or other they are ready to handle the basics. The problem is that the public school system is a mess. State standards are all over the board, every year there seems to be a controversy on what we are aloud to teach children, and people are relying on schools to raise their child as well as teach. Its actually quite a mess.

Add into the situation that thanks to technology starting to get to the point where the internet can replace the basics of teaching chilldren, we are at a point where we have to learn to adapt and change some of our teaching standards. Its quite interesting that I've learned and absorbed more out of college than in college. I spent most of my college days cramming and careening towards the end of a semester with barely anything remembered. Most of what I remember is vague and most of what I understand in my field ( computer science) I picked up through trial and error and reading manuals and info docs at my own pace. School is a mess.

 

[bluegirl]

Schools are there (in theory) to educate the next generation, so when they go to college, trades, or other they are ready to handle the basics. The problem is that the public school system is a mess. State standards are all over the board, every year there seems to be a controversy on what we are aloud to teach children, and people are relying on schools to raise their child as well as teach. Its actually quite a mess.

Add into the situation that thanks to technology starting to get to the point where the internet can replace the basics of teaching chilldren, we are at a point where we have to learn to adapt and change some of our teaching standards. Its quite interesting that I've learned and absorbed more out of college than in college. I spent most of my college days cramming and careening towards the end of a semester with barely anything remembered. Most of what I remember is vague and most of what I understand in my field ( computer science) I picked up through trial and error and reading manuals and info docs at my own pace. School is a mess.

I wasn't even a CS major and I learned that on my own and had a career of it for a decade, writing applications for the web. I don't remember much of what I 'learned' in college either. As for k-12, glad I have no young children or I'd have to figure out a detour to the system, either home school or online school. The public schools are sad right now and the lunch program enough to make anyone cry, especially given that packed lunches are a no-no these days, can be confiscated. Probably a form of lunch-envy.