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What is the oldest organized religion?
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Who is for Other?
The only other religion I have found that could be the oldest is SHAMANISM but it is not organized.....
The only other religion I have found that could be the oldest is SHAMANISM but it is not organized.....
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WMD
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Why is scientology on the list? It was created in the 1970's by L Ron Hubbard.
Christianity and Islam are both way older than scientology
Christianity and Islam are both way older than scientology
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reznwerks
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Of the five choices it would have to be Judaism. Zoeroasterism isn't followed anymore , Hinduism isn't really organized , and the rest came far more recently.
Of the five choices it would have to be Judaism. Zoeroasterism isn't followed anymore , Hinduism isn't really organized , and the rest came far more recently.
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ArtGuy
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Why is this a poll? It's a question with a factual answer.
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Soma-Sight
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What was your vote?
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ArtGuy
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Soma-Sight said:
Hinduism. It was established around 1500BC. Judaism was codified by Moses in 1400BC, which is the event that most historians use to pin the birth of the religion.
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DivineNames
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Re: organized
I am sure that I have read that there are a few of them around?
reznwerks said:
I am sure that I have read that there are a few of them around?
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GundamZero
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Yes, I think there are as well. But I think it's very different today.
Well, you see originally, following the Lord had nothing to do with having an organized religion. If you read Genesis, you find that Salem, now Jerusalem, was always the city of the Most High God, Elohim, who would, four hundred and some odd years later, reveal himself as Yahweh, which sounds like the ancient Hebrew/Aramaic phrase for "I am what I am," or "I will be who I will be." And we know that there were organized religions on the Tigris and the Euphrates, they just didn't carry on to the present age.
Hinduism, even in it's broadest state, predates the organized nation of Israel, but not, of course, the belief in the One God, the Almighty.
And remember that modern Judaism isn't really Judaism any more, since they don't really practice the law anymore.
Well, you see originally, following the Lord had nothing to do with having an organized religion. If you read Genesis, you find that Salem, now Jerusalem, was always the city of the Most High God, Elohim, who would, four hundred and some odd years later, reveal himself as Yahweh, which sounds like the ancient Hebrew/Aramaic phrase for "I am what I am," or "I will be who I will be." And we know that there were organized religions on the Tigris and the Euphrates, they just didn't carry on to the present age.
Hinduism, even in it's broadest state, predates the organized nation of Israel, but not, of course, the belief in the One God, the Almighty.
And remember that modern Judaism isn't really Judaism any more, since they don't really practice the law anymore.
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ArtGuy
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GundamZero said:
I think modern Judaism resembles ancient Judaism about as much as modern Christianity resembles ancient Christianity. Religions evolve to reflect society.
kiwimac
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Re: organized
Only some Zoroastrians believe that. They are usually Parsees living in the Indian Zoroastrian Comunities. The Iranian Zoroastrians (where the faith began) have always accepted converts. Moreover Zoroastrianism and Hinduism are around the same age. Many of the concepts in Zoroastrianism are reflected in Hinduism.
The following URL is a good place to begin: http://www.zoroastrian.org/
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Only some Zoroastrians believe that. They are usually Parsees living in the Indian Zoroastrian Comunities. The Iranian Zoroastrians (where the faith began) have always accepted converts. Moreover Zoroastrianism and Hinduism are around the same age. Many of the concepts in Zoroastrianism are reflected in Hinduism.
The following URL is a good place to begin: http://www.zoroastrian.org/
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GundamZero
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Nice try. Though the face of Christianity, the churches and crazy priests in dresses, may not resemble the early Church, the faith's foundation has not changed. THere is still a Heaven and a Hell, Christ is Lord, and his followers are saved forever.
However, Judaism does not follow the same guidelines as layed out in the Law. Christians are under grace, but those who do not claim to be under the grace of Christ have no reason not to follow the law, except that sacrificing animals is considered pretty weird these days.
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DivineNames
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GundamZero said:
They don't have a temple at the moment, but I understand that Jews do want to resume animal sacrifice. I don't know if they want to turn Israel into a theocracy.
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GundamZero
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True. In order for Judaism to truly be as it was, the temple must be rebuilt, and God must be the head. Or perhaps the nation fall under a Divine Monarch, but that won't happen anymore. But let's hope this isn't accomplished to soon. We've still got a Gospel to spread.
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Soma-Sight
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HINDU MONOTHEISM
Truth is One, but sages call it by many names. Monotheistic theology was/is an inherent part of Hinduism which teach that the many forms of God, i.e., Vishnu, Shiva, or Devi merely represent aspects of a single or underlying divine power or Brahman (see articles on Nirguna Brahman and Saguna Brahman). Claims that Hinduism never taught polytheism [1], are correct if we read the major texts of Hinduism such as the Vedas,Upanishads and Gita.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_views_on_monotheism
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GundamZero
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But the stories about the faces of Brahman, and the preposed theology of one god for Hindus is contradictory, since.
If you read those text, you will find many exagerated stories that many say were just stories and don't have anything to do with the actual religion. But this is just a play on words. If we take the words at their most basic meanings, these faces of Brahman in conflict with each other scream the original idea of separate dieties.
If you read those text, you will find many exagerated stories that many say were just stories and don't have anything to do with the actual religion. But this is just a play on words. If we take the words at their most basic meanings, these faces of Brahman in conflict with each other scream the original idea of separate dieties.
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Sunkissed
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Ladies and Gents,
I submit to you that the oldest organized religion started in the Garden of Eden, when man thought so much of himself as to try and become his own god by eating the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, and, hey, it's been organized enough to last to this very day! :wink:
Sunny
I submit to you that the oldest organized religion started in the Garden of Eden, when man thought so much of himself as to try and become his own god by eating the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, and, hey, it's been organized enough to last to this very day! :wink:
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shirono
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Re: organized
Ah yes but the question was not what is the oldest religion still practiced, and besides Zoroastrianism is still practiced in parts of the middle east and even in the U.S. somewhere I believe.
I studied this religion this summer and my world history teacher has already lectured on it this year. It was started in Persia and during the babylonian captivity it greatly changed Judaism. The writings from before the diaspora never mentioned hell or an afterlife, it was only after they were introduced to Zoroastrinism (which is believed to be the oldest organized religion by most scholars currently, also the earliest to have a version of hell) that they finally started to write about an afterlife.
reznwerks said:
Ah yes but the question was not what is the oldest religion still practiced, and besides Zoroastrianism is still practiced in parts of the middle east and even in the U.S. somewhere I believe.
I studied this religion this summer and my world history teacher has already lectured on it this year. It was started in Persia and during the babylonian captivity it greatly changed Judaism. The writings from before the diaspora never mentioned hell or an afterlife, it was only after they were introduced to Zoroastrinism (which is believed to be the oldest organized religion by most scholars currently, also the earliest to have a version of hell) that they finally started to write about an afterlife.