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What would you do?

Gary said:
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Are you ok with your choice?Why would you take the promotion?
 
Kathi said:
Are you ok with your choice?
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Of course I'm ok with my choice. Why wouldn't I be?


Why would you take the promotion?
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From all the scenarios here it appears I'd eventually get fire or demoted if I didn't take the promotion. So if I'm getting the ax regardless of my decision, I'm gonna take the promotion and make a few extra bucks before I'm let go.
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Gary said:
Of course I'm ok with my choice. Why wouldn't I be?




From all the scenarios here it appears I'd eventually get fire or demoted if I didn't take the promotion. So if I'm getting the ax regardless of my decision, I'm gonna take the promotion and make a few extra bucks before I'm let go.
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The opportunist
 
Gary said:
Of course I'm ok with my choice. Why wouldn't I be?




From all the scenarios here it appears I'd eventually get fire or demoted if I didn't take the promotion. So if I'm getting the ax regardless of my decision, I'm gonna take the promotion and make a few extra bucks before I'm let go.
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Maybe if you took the promotion, you'd become one of them.
 
Kathi said:
You have just been promoted in your job.It is a huge hike in pay and benefits.You have a family to support.The company has told you that if you do not take this promotion they may have to put you in another area of the company with less pay.The job involves traveling with other co-workers involved.Staying in hotel rooms with co-workers who were both men and women.They meet together for meetings and often have dinner.You have heard that sometimes those co-workers drink heavily and get involved in intimate situations with each other.What would be more important to you as a Christian?To have alot more money to support your family and take this promotion maybe be able to buy a nice home and have the nicer things you think your family would like or maybe be demoted and looking at the moral aspect of this promotion?
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If this is your scenario, and you have to ask, then don't do it.

I've come to know that jobs are just worldly things. No company cares for you. You may makes a few friends, but many companies will not support your values. Frankly I'm surprised I've lasted as long as I have in my job. LOL.

My company is all about money, the bottom line, and it's my job to make them money. I'm just one of many with a little slice of pie to make for them. Our goal is to make a profit, which is bottom line revenue, but top line revenue is also important. Top line revenue is business that we do that either cost us money to do it, or we break even. We need both to make our company "sexy" enough for investors to buy shares, and that's all it's about.

I get a salary and a bonus. I'm supposed to be making 6 figures with both but I don't. I don't because I know the game.

I will not travel. I will not take phone calls at home, or answer email. I will not work more than 48 hours a week. These are the rules I set forth when I was hired, and my family come first. I will not compromise the integrity of the most important things God has blessed me with, and given me responsibility to care for. I've made this point to my company year after year.....and I'm still there.

I've seen them come and go; people (mostly young) who come into our company thinking they are going to conquer the world! Their going to land the next big account and make the big bucks! They think they are special , different from others. They are confident and smart, but what they don't know is that they are being used. They are actually victims of the very "world" they think they are going to over come. I'm watching one right now. I figure she'll quit in the next few months, or do something so unethical that she will be fired. The company does not mind if you cheat or steal. They won't say that, but since it's illegal and puts the organization at risk, they can't have that you know.

You do not exist because someone gives you a job, but many companies foster a false culture of family where they will suggest that it is the corporation that is taking care of them. It's just not true. It's a lie, and don't believe it. Don't fall for this world; it's evil.

This world will tempt you with all sorts of things, and ones you're tempted you'll want to taste it. I did, and that's how I meet God in my life. That's how I know the difference, and why I'm telling you this.

You can't conquer this world, or rise above it, but the best part is you don't have to. Jesus already did. John 16:33 "I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world."

You don't need worldly things to have peace, those things will not give you peace. They will not bring you joy.

Francis Schaeffer once said that the greatest sin of the west is the sin of affluence and personal peace; the false belief that that more equals security. It does not. By personal peace he meant the type of attitude where people just want to be left alone and not bothered by the problems and issues of the world or their neighbor. Do not chase after affluence. It does not exist.

Funny, I'm one of the longest lasting employed people in my position at my company. only two others have been there a little longer than me, and I know them to also be Christians, yet I work under the veiled threat of termination every day. I will not travel. I will not take phone calls at home, or answer email. I will not work more than 48 hours a week. My family come first. Some of the company men who don't like to hear this and have lightly threatened me, have been fired or quit them selves, yet I'm still there.

It is God who takes care of me, and when He's done with giving me the blessing of my job, and needs me to do something else, then He will let them fire me, and I'll walk out without with no problem.. :)
 
There's a lot of variables to this scenario, but as laid down in the first post, I'd probably turn it down. God is more important than anything, and it is he that cares for me, not some half baked job with immoral pressures. Hey, I was looking for a job when I found this one, right?

But dependent upon exact circumstances, the character of the specific people involved, and my level of vulnerability to the specific temptations...I might take the promotion.
 
I have quit jobs before for moral reasons, and have then been subject to times of financial hardship, eviction, and strain within my personal relationships (such as my family). Had I stayed with the job, I would not have faced those circumstances, and could have found ways around the immorality taking place. It might have gotten me fired in the long run, but it would have given me a chance to find another job first. Whether or not my coworkers are immoral, my morality is on me, and if I had realized that, I might not have endured such a hard road. That's what it comes down to: the morality of the individual who has to make the decision to take the promotion or not. If you know you can remain moral, take the promotion. If you cannot remain moral, don't take the promotion.
 
If you were married and your wife told you she would not want you to take that promotion would you respect that?Would you cross that red line?
 
Kathi said:
If you were married and your wife told you she would not want you to take that promotion would you respect that?Would you cross that red line?
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I personally would abide by my wife's wishes, in that case, though I would talk with her about what that would mean specifically for us (potential financial troubles, stress, etc.), just so we were both on the same page in regard to the situation. In marriage, I believe it is important for spouses to consult one another in any decision.
 
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You do not exist because someone gives you a job, but many companies foster a false culture of family where they will suggest that it is the corporation that is taking care of them. It's just not true. It's a lie, and don't believe it. Don't fall for this world; it's evil.
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the us army tends to be seen by vets and myself like this.
 
Kathi said:
If you were married and your wife told you she would not want you to take that promotion would you respect that?Would you cross that red line?
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I'm assuming you are talking about someone's spouse, some of us don't have wives. :)
I would not take a job or keep a job that would cause problems in my marriage. It wouldn't be worth it.

But if I had a job before I was married that required me to travel I wouldn't necessarily quit that job in order to get married either.
 
Deborah13 said:
I'm assuming you are talking about someone's spouse, some of us don't have wives. :)
I would not take a job or keep a job that would cause problems in my marriage. It wouldn't be worth it.

But if I had a job before I was married that required me to travel I wouldn't necessarily quit that job in order to get married either.
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I think the OP was meant for a husband who had gotten a promotion.It could certainly work the other way with the wife getting the promotion.And it should work the same way.
 
Kathi said:
If you were married and your wife told you she would not want you to take that promotion would you respect that?Would you cross that red line?
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I sure would respect her wishes and not take the job. What could be expected if one went into such a touchy situation...and the wife is already not happy with it? A job is a means to an end. The goal is having a happy marriage and life right? A job provides the means to that end. If you put the job over her, you're doomed, and one seriously confused fellow. lol.
 
Man has two big things in life to make a mark in. His work and his family. If he puts too much attention into either of them, the other suffers.

We all know how a woman talks about a man who wont hold down a job. Very rough. But how about the man who works too much? The same way. (All he does is work, he's never home...) So there's a fine line in there where happiness can be found, lol. The wife must take precedence, even if it means being poorer than you would be if you had a big fat job that made cash not a worry.
 
If a spouse is expressing concern regarding your socializing with fellow workers, the problem isn't the promotion or the job, it's the lack of trust in the marriage.
 
Gary said:
If a spouse is expressing concern regarding your socializing with fellow workers, the problem isn't the promotion or the job, it's the lack of trust in the marriage.
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Usually. Sometimes though, it is just insecurity on the the part of one. I've ran into the situation where I was totally honorable, and the female, still had doubts because of prior hurts from other men. The masses generally set precedence so it can be hard to gain trust from another because they think well he might just be a good liar. This is why total honesty is essential in a relationship.
 
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