Where Storms and Floods Come From

[SpiritualSon]

Storms and floods are cause by human thoughts that is mix with good and evil. The storms in the midwest are cause by people with such thoughts. Good is represented by the worm air, and evil is represented by the cold air from the north. When these two, worm and cold air come together, storms are formed. God does not bring these storms on, man does. In chapter 3 0f Jonah, he said a city called Nineveh will be doom. When the people of that city learn of this, they repented and change their ways, and the doom never happen. Jonah was very upset.

Harry :fadein:

 

[John]

We have plenty of knowledge on how storms form. Storms are a disturbance on a planet’s atmosphere affecting its surface. They are usually characterized by accompanying rushes of wind, rain, thunder, lightning, sow, hail and sleet.

I must assume you posted this thread as a joke, please tell me that your not serious about the OP content :-?

Storms and floods are cause by human thoughts that is mix with good and evil.

The storms in the midwest are cause by people with such thoughts.

Nope, there geographical location is just poo!

Good is represented by the worm air, and evil is represented by the cold air from the north

Cold air is not evil. my mother prefers warm air, but cold is not evil. :wink:

When these two, worm and cold air come together, storms are formed.

More or less.

God does not bring these storms on,

Very correct.

man does.

Erm, No. Man may have some effect of weather patterns due to emissions, clear cutting allowing soil erosion which could lead too floods and such, but man does not "bring these storms on"

I love watching storms and such, beautiful and sometimes deadly, but they are not derived from human thoughts

 

[SpiritualSon]

Whatever goes on in the natural world is a correspondences to the spiritual world and in us. Earthquakes signifies changes of state in the church. God does not bring on storms, because He is all good and all truth.Man does that by his own evil acts. He brings on his own punishment by being evil. What goes around, comes around. If the people in the midwest repent and turn away from their evil ways, these storms will stop. Lots of hate is in this country, especially against Hillary Clinton. How many more people will die by means of storms before this country repents? Lost of jobs and houses are also cause by man's love of self. He doesn't need to do evil, all he has to do is to love it. You can't be jailed for thinking wrong. I do repentance every day, by correcting my thoughts. Look to the Lord, repent, and these storms will end. This world was created by God, not by nature.

Harry

 

[Catholic Crusader]

god bless everybody

 

[John]

god bless everybody

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SS, is there any Bible versus confirming this?

 

[turnorburn]

Storms and floods are cause by human thoughts that is mix with good and evil. The storms in the Midwest are cause by people with such thoughts.

Lets as my King James Bible in Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

It matters not if man acts evil he's born evil

 

[John]

45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Yes indeed the sun rises on everyone each and everyday whether i do good or sin.
By your interpretation, there are more unjust people in the rainforest's then say Bangladesh.
Thats just folly.

This verse simply implies that becuase of the way he made his creation (earth in this case) the sun will rise and the rain will fall, this verse does NOT say the sun rises and rain falls because of evil thoughts.

EDIT: Mods i suggest this thread be moved to the "Christianity and Science" forum for proper and more detailed rebuttal by me and other individuals who enjoy partaking in science driven discussions. In this case when it comes to weather systems. Unless someone can provide me with a passage of scripture that is not so vague on the subject to be twisted into a illogical and obviously weak statement that weather is derived from human thought patterns.

 

[proponent]

God does not bring these storms on,

Very correct.


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Except for the flood amirite?

 

[John]

God does not bring these storms on,

Very correct.


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Except for the flood amirite?

Correct proponent, you've been paying attention

 

[John]

Bump.

 

[SpiritualSon]

After reading the writings of Swedenborg, strong winds and floods represents tempations. Everything this earth does are representations of the spiritual world, changes of states in the church, and of man. Man must undergo temptations in order to be born again, therefore he must repent. Faith alone will not save you.

Harry

 

[Orion]

Ridiculous thread and OP theology. :-?

 

[Vic C.]

Ridiculous thread and OP theology. :-?

I agree.

Weather in general is caused by the tilt of the earth on it's axis, and it's elliptical orbit around the sun and the gravitational force of the moon. Harry, using your reasoning, man's sin caused the earth to shift on it's axis, the orbit to become oblong, etc. :-?

 

[John]

Ridiculous thread and OP theology. :-?

I agree.

Weather in general is caused by the tilt of the earth on it's axis, and it's elliptical orbit around the sun and the gravitational force of the moon. Harry, using your reasoning, man's sin caused the earth to shift on it's axis, the orbit to become oblong, etc. :-?

Well if you choose to believe certain theory's like the flood in tandem with a comet caused the earths tilt therefore effecting weather patterns...... It was because of mans sin that God flooded the earth, But the resulting weather patterns while started by mans sin are not in control by mans sin.

 

[turnorburn]

Weather is like

It isn't for us to decide, for a Christian time is eternal, take for an example the long day of Joshua where the sun wandered crazily through the sky. The weather patterns are changing, what would you
think if you were out in a field plowing and it started raining hailstones that weighed 100 talents apiece? :shocked!:
Or the alternative of alternates! presenting! Mr. Todd Bentley from Lakeland Florida the hippie Skippie weather man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkEpQlL1GHo&NR=1

 

[John]

^^ I have no doubt that God has effected the weather for some reason and some time, but i don't think that its an everyday thing. For example I am getting rain tomorrow was it because there was more sin that is going to happen tomorrow then today? I think not.

 

[SpiritualSon]

Ridiculous thread and OP theology. :-?

I agree.

Weather in general is caused by the tilt of the earth on it's axis, and it's elliptical orbit around the sun and the gravitational force of the moon. Harry, using your reasoning, man's sin caused the earth to shift on it's axis, the orbit to become oblong, etc. :-?

The earth tilting on its axis creates the four seasons. In the winter time it is very sunny, but very cold. The very sunning day in the winter represents big on faith, but very low on love and charity.

Harry :fadein:

 

[turnorburn]

^^ I have no doubt that God has effected the weather for some reason and some time, but i don't think that its an everyday thing. For example I am getting rain tomorrow was it because there was more sin that is going to happen tomorrow then today? I think not.

This thing with the weather reminds me of a story I once heard, but now for
the life of me I can't remember :robot:

 

[Orion]

Wow, Harry, . . . . . . . . you are really "out there"! :-?

 

[SpiritualSon]

Man is like the earth, it goes through changes. God never changes, because He is the same always. The sun represents Him, but the sun is natural. One day it will die. God does not cause the death of anyone. God would rather you live so that you can amend your life. This earth is in need of repentance.

The earth is changing itself. In 1812 something happen to the upper Mississippi river,New Madrid Earthquake. There is a fault there. This fault is about four hundred million years old. It is the oldest fault in North America.

Harry :fadein: