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What king administers his own kingdom?
They always anoint a prime minister
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What happened to “call no man father”?greetings
wrong way, not according to the Holy See, but to
Then He said, "Do not draw near this place. Take your sandals off your feet, for the place where you stand is holy ground."
Moreover, He said, "I am the God of your father--the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob." And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look upon God.
Ex 3:5-6 (NKJV)
Just a shadow of things to come
“Be sure that you make everything according to the pattern I have shown you here on the mountain.
Exodus 25:40
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They serve in a system of worship that is only a copy, a shadow of the real one in heaven.
When Moses was getting ready to build the Tabernacle, God gave him this warning: “Be sure that you make everything according to the pattern I have shown you here on the mountain.”
Hebrews 8:5
Christ is the same yesterday as in time passed, and the same today, forevermore.
Hebrews 13:8
That is why the Tabernacle and everything in it, which were copies of things in heaven, had to be purified by the blood of animals. But the real things in heaven had to be purified with far better sacrifices than the blood of animals.
For Christ did not enter into a holy place made with human hands, which was only a copy of the true one in heaven He entered into heaven itself to appear now before God on our behalf.
Hebrews 9:23-24
Christ is the same yesterday as in time passed, and the same today, forevermore.
Hebrews 13:8
For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect.
For then would they not have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins.
But in those sacrifices, there is a reminder of sins every year.
Hebrews 10:1-3
Christ is the same yesterday as in time passed, and the same today, forevermore.
Hebrews 13:8
These rules are only shadows of the reality yet to come. And Christ himself is that reality.
Colossians 2:17
Christ is the same yesterday as in time passed, and the same today, forevermore.
Hebrews 13:8
It was symbolic of the present time in which both gifts and sacrifices are offered which cannot make him who performed the service perfect in regard to the conscience--
Hebrews 9:9
Christ is the same yesterday as in time passed, and the same today, forevermore.
Hebrews 13:8
David also gave Solomon all the plans he had in mind for the courtyards of the LORD’s Temple, the outside rooms, the treasuries, and the rooms for the gifts dedicated to the LORD.
1 Chronicle 28:12
Christ is the same yesterday as in time passed, and the same today, forevermore.
Hebrews 13:8
But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also a Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.
Hebrews 8:6
Christ is the same yesterday as in time passed, and the same today, forevermore.
Hebrews 13:8
For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second.
Because finding fault with them, He says: "Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah--
not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them, says the LORD.
Hebrews 8:7-9
Christ is the same yesterday as in time passed, and the same today, forevermore.
Hebrews 13:8
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1 John 2:2 (KJV)
salvation is an experience
“Ho! Everyone who thirsts,
Come to the waters;
And you who have no money,
Come, buy, and eat.
Yes, come, buy wine and milk
Without money and without price.
Why do you [a]spend money for what is not bread,
And your wages for what does not satisfy?
Listen carefully to Me, and eat what is good,
And let your soul delight itself in abundance.
Isaiah 55:1-2
The Vatican is its own authority, not commissioned by Christ
The Lord was crucified in Jerusalem?No, it's there!
did you read What is the Law?
Eternal sins, Unforgivable sins, Unpardonable sins, or Ultimate sins are which are not forgiven by God
What counts as blasphemy against the Holy Spirit?
The unpardonable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
Blasphemy includes ridicule and attributing the works of the Holy Spirit to the devil.
The Unpardonable Sinswho has Trampoline the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace?
Trampoline under foot, with the blood of Christ (Hebrews 10:28-31)
that great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified every day this is blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness but is in danger of eternal damnation:
In Matthew 12:30-33 (NKJV) He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad.
Matthew 12: 31 "Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Matthew 12: 33 "Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for a tree is known by its fruit.
For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame--who set their mind on earthly things.
Phil 3:18-19 (NKJV)
Phil 3: that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ
The Vatican's own authority, not commissioned by Christ's enemies of the cross
When they finish their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them.
And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
Then those from the peoples, tribes, tongues, and nations will see their dead bodies three-and-a-half days, and not allow their dead bodies to be put into graves. (prison)
Revelation 11:7-9 (NKJV)
The Great City (Vatican City) which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord is being crucified.
Revelation 11:7-9
where also our Lord was crucified, their Sunday service crucifies Christ's name spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt (Vatican City)
Sunday service
And God of Israel does not give any opinion, just two things love following with Judgment
All the old covenant practices and prophecy point to the coming of Christ and to keep practicing them is offensive to christ and declares that “He never came”!
1 Jn 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)
1 Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
The sabbath was abrogated by the comming of Christ and the promulgation of the good news
There is a new creation in Christ and new sabbath
The Lord’s day
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Purgatory is for the saved not the lost!greetings
Sorry, there is no purgatory, the word say?
If I may
But the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
Matt 8:12 (NKJV)
Outer Darkness! The abyss, no purgatory,
The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.
Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Revelation 20:13-14 (NKJV)
into the Lake of Sin, the wages of sin is death This is the second death, and no purgatory
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 6:23
For we are to God the fragrance of Christ among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing.
To the one we are the aroma of death leading to death, and to the other the aroma of life leading to life.
And who is sufficient for these things?
For we are not, as so many, peddling the word of God; but as of sincerity, but as from God, we speak in the sight of God in Christ.
2 Cor 2:15-17 (NKJV)
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Hi donadams
God bless,
Ted
No, he left us his commands. Those who care to know what Jesus wants of us can read his very words that he spoke two centuries ago.
God bless,
Ted
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That is a belief that has led to the anarchy that is Protestantism.
Everybody does their own thing.
Really that’s it?
And if you read what do find?
He established a church on Peter and the apostles to teach and sanctify all men unto eternal salvation!
Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Matt 18:17 acts 1:8 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15
Peter, the apostles and their successors have the same authority, power, and mission as Christ! Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, even so send I you!
Jesus Christ extends his mission, power, and authority to His church of His apostles! The apostles have the same mission, ministry, power, and authority as Christ! Jn 20:21 as the father sent me, so I send you!
Even His judging!
Matt 19:28 and 1 cor 6:2
His teaching authority!
Matt 28:19 and Jn 20:21
His power to forgive sins!
Jn 20:23
Jn 17:22 / rom 2:10 / 1 pet 1:7 Christ shares His glory with His saints!
His being the light of the world!
Matt 5:14
Must hear church Matt 18:18
His ministry of reconciliation!
2 cor 5:18
His authority in governing the church and administering the kingdom!
Matt 16:18-19 & 18:18 Jn 21:17
Lk 22:29
Apart from me you can do nothing. Jn 15:5
Acts 2:42 doctrine of the apostles!
So the church is subject to Christ!
Eph 5:24
Christ shares His glory! 2 thes 1:10 rev 12:1
The pillar and foundation of TRUTH!
1 Tim 3:15
But do tell what are the specific commandments found in Matt 28:20 and acts 1:2?
And the mysteries in Matt 13:11 & 1 cor 14:11
Also who are the priest / apostles that care for our souls?
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Because I am not catholic, if I may I suggest don't worry about it, they say that some people like to choose ignorance,
It's okay, it is said? the old believe everything, the middle age suppresses everything, and the youth know everything.
Purgatory?
between two doors, the one that you are in and the second is imagination, your soul of the mind, in between your reality, and nonexistent Purgatory!
Greetings
I only can give you these words
But you, do not be called 'Rabbi'; for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren.
Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ.
Matthew 23:8-10 (NKJV)
Will you not from this time cry to Me, 'My father, You are the guide of my youth?
Jeremiah 3:4
"But I said: 'How can I put you among the children And give you a pleasant land, A beautiful heritage of the hosts of nations?' "And I said: 'You shall call Me, "My Father," And not turn away from Me.'
Jer 3:19
For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, "Abba, Father."
Romans 8:15
"Abba, Father."
You called men father?Greetings
I only can give you these words
But you, do not be called 'Rabbi'; for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren.
Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ.
Matthew 23:8-10 (NKJV)
Will you not from this time cry to Me, 'My father, You are the guide of my youth?
Jeremiah 3:4
"But I said: 'How can I put you among the children And give you a pleasant land, A beautiful heritage of the hosts of nations?' "And I said: 'You shall call Me, "My Father," And not turn away from Me.'
Jer 3:19
For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, "Abba, Father."
Romans 8:15
"Abba, Father."
Matt 23:9
Call no man father? Jesus is condemning pride and spiritual pride of the Pharisees?
Or is this absolute?
God calls men father!
Ex 3:6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.
Jesus calls men father!
Jn 6:49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
Mary calls men father!
Lk 1:55 As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever.
Peter calls men father!
Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.
Acts 3:22 Moses said unto the fathers…
The stephen calls men father!
Acts 7 Stephen quotes the fathers over and over!
The Bible calls men father!
Luke 16:24
And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
Acts 3:13
The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.
Jn 4:20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
Jesus does not rebuke her for calling men father!
Then there is spiritual fathers!
Spiritual Fathers have care for our souls!
Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Jn 21:17 feed my sheep:
Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they care for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
1 Tim 1:2 Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.
Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you
1 Tim 5:1 Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father…
1 John 2
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.
That makes Peter, Paul and John spiritual fathers, pastors of our souls!
Isa 22 the administrator of the kingdom is called father, so the same for Peter, the apostles, and their successors!
Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20
Lk 10:16
He who hears you hears me...
John 13:20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.
Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, so send in you. (The apostles) posses the same power mission and authority as Christ!
Peter, the apostles and their successors!
Eph 3: 14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
every family in heaven and on earth is named from the “Father.” We are fathers in the Father.
Acts 7:2; 22:1, 1 John 2:13 – elders of the Church are called “fathers.” Therefore, we should ask the question, “Why don’t Protestants call their pastors “father?”
1 Cor. 4:17 – Paul calls Bishop Timothy a beloved and faithful “child” in the Lord.
2 Cor. 12:14 – Paul describes his role as parent over his “children” the Corinthians.
Phil. 2:22 – Paul calls Timothy’s service to him as a son serves a “father.”
1 Thess. 2:11- Paul compares the Church elders’ ministry to the people like a father with his children.
1 Tim. 1:2,18; 2 Tim. 1:2-3 – Paul calls Timothy his true “child” in the faith and his son.
Titus 1:4 – Paul calls Titus his true “child” in a common faith. Priests are our spiritual fathers in the family of God.
Philemon 10 – Paul says he has become the “father” of Onesimus.
Heb. 12:7,9 – emphasizes our earthly “fathers.” But these are not just biological but also spiritual (the priests of the Church).
1 Peter 5:13 – Peter refers to himself as father by calling Mark his “son.”
1 John 2:1,1 John 2:13,14 – John calls the elders of the Church “fathers.”
Isa 22:21-22 the prime minister who administer the kingdom under the king in the line of david Lk 1:32-23 has the title father and hold the keys Matt 16:18
Church fathers
Testimony of the early church in the successors of the apostles! Verified by acts 2:42
Acts 1:8 witnesses of Christ with the power of the Holy Spirit!
We must hear them! Matt 18:17
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I have a thread on “biblical
Purgatory” in the unorthodox forum check it out
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Greetings
Yes I believe so
(Aramaic) Goliath = Golgotha = place called the Place of a Skull Calvary Latin Cala
it is like this
And you shall bruise His heel." - Genesis 3:15
He shall bruise your head,"- Genesis 3:15
as Christ crushes the head of Satan, with his feet, and Christ bruised his heel upon his head.
The slaying of Goliath by David was one of the most important events in “Israelite history.” The location of the giant’s head would have been known by all. Hence, “Golgatha” is likely the place of not just any old skull, but the place of the skull of Goliath of Gath. the Messianic Son of David.
Hi donadams
Bad theology. Jesus wasn't referring to Peter as the rock upon which he was going to build his church. Jesus was referring to Peter's proclamation as to who Jesus is, as the rock upon which he was going to build his church.
God bless,
Ted
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Yes I notice you prefer ignorance.
Does that mean something or is it just trolling?
Possibly but hear it was adams skullGreetings
Yes I believe so
(Aramaic) Goliath = Golgotha = place called the Place of a Skull Calvary Latin Cala
it is like this
And you shall bruise His heel." - Genesis 3:15
He shall bruise your head,"- Genesis 3:15
as Christ crushes the head of Satan, with his feet, and Christ bruised his heel upon his head.The slaying of Goliath by David was one of the most important events in “Israelite history.” The location of the giant’s head would have been known by all. Hence, “Golgatha” is likely the place of not just any old skull, but the place of the skull of Goliath of Gath. the Messianic Son of David.
greetings
I have been away
yes, you ask the question, I said there is no Purgatory that is the catechism, is not in the bible but what the word does say,
Cast into Outer Darkness
“But when the king came in to look over the dinner guests, he saw a man there who was not dressed in wedding clothes, and he said to him, “Friend, how did you come in here without wedding clothes?” And the man was speechless.
“Then the king said to the servants, “Bind him hand and foot, and throw him into the outer darkness; in that place, there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”
“For many are called, but few are chosen.”
Matthew 22:11-14
Then said the king to the servants-- the angelic ministers of divine vengeance (as in
The expression is emphatic -- "the darkness which is outside."To be "outside" at all -- suspended in darkness or, in the language of, to be "without"the heavenly city, excluded from its joyous nuptials and gladsome festivities -- is sad enough of itself, without anything else.
But to find themselves not only excluded from the brightness and glory and joy and felicity of the kingdom above but thrust into a region of "darkness," with all its horrors, this is the dismal retribution here announced, that awaits the unworthy at the great
two places Outer Darkness non-existing or called? Sheol To Bind hands and feet in a place where no one can move
a place of terror despair, the well of souls, - too or await the spirits of the dead awaiting the final judgment
maybe to help if read the book of Enoch, see if the book of Enoch talks if anything about Purgatory
Only those who are saved can go to purgatorygreetings
I have been away
yes, you ask the question, I said there is no Purgatory that is the catechism, is not in the bible but what the word does say,
Cast into Outer Darkness
“But when the king came in to look over the dinner guests, he saw a man there who was not dressed in wedding clothes, and he said to him, “Friend, how did you come in here without wedding clothes?” And the man was speechless.
“Then the king said to the servants, “Bind him hand and foot, and throw him into the outer darkness; in that place, there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”
“For many are called, but few are chosen.”
Matthew 22:11-14
Then said the king to the servants-- the angelic ministers of divine vengeance (as in
Bind him hand and foot-- putting it out of his power to resist.
The expression is emphatic -- "the darkness which is outside."To be "outside" at all -- suspended in darkness or, in the language of, to be "without"the heavenly city, excluded from its joyous nuptials and gladsome festivities -- is sad enough of itself, without anything else.
But to find themselves not only excluded from the brightness and glory and joy and felicity of the kingdom above but thrust into a region of "darkness," with all its horrors, this is the dismal retribution here announced, that awaits the unworthy at the great
two places Outer Darkness non-existing or called? Sheol To Bind hands and feet in a place where no one can move
a place of terror despair, the well of souls, - too or await the spirits of the dead awaiting the final judgment
maybe to help if read the book of Enoch, see if the book of Enoch talks if anything about Purgatory
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If they are saved, why is it necessary to spend time in purgatory?
Good question
Salvation is of grace with mercy and the forgiveness of sins, but the temporal punishment due to sin Christ did not take away, just like he did not take away our sin nature and restore up to the state of innocence in the garden.
Example: a child breaks a window with his baseball, his father forgives him totally, but the child work and earn money to pay for the window, and we must pray, fast, alms, penance, carry our cross and practice Christian virtues to expiate the temporal punishment due to our sins, God provides for everything in His goodness and gives us ample means to do this, and it purifies our souls in this life or if not he also provides a means of purification in the next.
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It seems you are contradicting yourself here. First you say Salvation is of grace and mercy and then you say one must (paraphrased) "pray, fast, give alms, punish himself/herself, carry our crosses, and practice Christian values" to be saved.
All those things you mention are the manifestations of our Christian faith, not requirements for salvation. Salvation comes only by the grace of God and not by anything we do or say.