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Who Uses THe Race Card?

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We are living on the brink of the Second Coming of Christ. And this is a thought that is well to take a look at. My side of USA finds most all posters using the race card AGAINST THE SON OF GOD, AND SAYING CONSTANTLY THAT HIS ETERNAL COVENANT [IS THE OLD JEWISH COVENANT!] Therefor CHRIST WHO IS A JEW ALONG WITH HIS ETERNAL LAW (2 Cor. 3:3) ARE BOTH GIVEN THE BOOT!

Constantly we read & hear about 'THAT OLD JEWISH LAW!'
And if that is not using what the devil does in opposition to Christ's Word of 2 Cor. 4:2, take note of his need of law! That of FORCED Worship!

In all Christ/less Rev. 17:1-5 churchs there is satan's need of Caesar by them to force his agenda AGAINST THE SIMPLE CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLE OF THE ETERNAL GOSPEL'S [FREEDOM OF LOVING WORSHIP!] And when ever Christ the Jew's Law of Obedience is mentioned satan's team say that it is the RACE CARD CALLED THE OLD JEWISH LAW, yet these Christ/less ones CONSTANTLY USE & NEED CAESAR TO ENFORCE THEIR satanic agenda's!

Think how Christ's forth Commandment has been demonized (Dan. 7:25) by most seen even in what they claim to be the Bible Belt. sun laws still on the books, (and are coming back) women still are second rate to men in church profession, and who still make up the majority living on the other side of the tracks, in these southern bible belts segregated Christian church's??

And Christ's ETERNAL LAW?? Find one of these ones in ten that still do not PLAY THE RACE CARD HERE in calling God's Eternal Covenant THE OLD JEWISH LAW!(see Luke 12:47-48 + Obad. 1:16's final resting place for them!) Most even try to pass it off as MOSES finished stuff! And then you are hearing that HELL WILL NOT BE FILLED WITH THESE ONES????? You know, they are Born Again, and are Once Saved Always Saved, huh! Heb. 6:6

--Elijah
 
A Jew is a convert to Judaism and the Hebrews are a ethnic group of people.

Contrary to popular belief, Jews are not a race, but a assembly of peoples.
They are the congregation of Zion. And that is according to scripture and history.
A Hebrew may or may not be a Jew.
 
Elijah674 said:
We are living on the brink of the Second Coming of Christ. And this is a thought that is well to take a look at. My side of USA finds most all posters using the race card AGAINST THE SON OF GOD, AND SAYING CONSTANTLY THAT HIS ETERNAL COVENANT [IS THE OLD JEWISH COVENANT!] Therefor CHRIST WHO IS A JEW ALONG WITH HIS ETERNAL LAW (2 Cor. 3:3) ARE BOTH GIVEN THE BOOT!

Constantly we read & hear about 'THAT OLD JEWISH LAW!'
And if that is not using what the devil does in opposition to Christ's Word of 2 Cor. 4:2, take note of his need of law! That of FORCED Worship!

In all Christ/less Rev. 17:1-5 churchs there is satan's need of Caesar by them to force his agenda AGAINST THE SIMPLE CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLE OF THE ETERNAL GOSPEL'S [FREEDOM OF LOVING WORSHIP!] And when ever Christ the Jew's Law of Obedience is mentioned satan's team say that it is the RACE CARD CALLED THE OLD JEWISH LAW, yet these Christ/less ones CONSTANTLY USE & NEED CAESAR TO ENFORCE THEIR satanic agenda's!

Think how Christ's forth Commandment has been demonized (Dan. 7:25) by most seen even in what they claim to be the Bible Belt. sun laws still on the books, (and are coming back) women still are second rate to men in church profession, and who still make up the majority living on the other side of the tracks, in these southern bible belts segregated Christian church's??

And Christ's ETERNAL LAW?? Find one of these ones in ten that still do not PLAY THE RACE CARD HERE in calling God's Eternal Covenant THE OLD JEWISH LAW!(see Luke 12:47-48 + Obad. 1:16's final resting place for them!) Most even try to pass it off as MOSES finished stuff! And then you are hearing that HELL WILL NOT BE FILLED WITH THESE ONES????? You know, they are Born Again, and are Once Saved Always Saved, huh! Heb. 6:6

--Elijah

But everyone did get the point I suspect? :screwloose
 
That's an interesting take on it. But it's true in a sense, and it's also true that it is a dominant part of what will go down in the history books as something close to "The American Gospel"

That was spread by stations like TBN and over the Internet all around the globe. When America looks at herself the only fault she can find are things like abortion that cost 50 million lifes. But she hardly ever considers what she has done to the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
 
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Let me try again: Lets see if God needs needs women to come to the front?
Church members [are not] the subject!
The Church where ones yoked membership is, [is the subject!]

NO one can read ones 'mind or heart' only God does this.
Everyone can read the teachings of the Rev. 17:1-5's Church + her Harlot Daughters FALSE TEACHINGS that have been around for years! Got that?

We are to LOVE everyone, [good or bad,] but are to hate the evil. And the Church that is evil with false known doctrines which [have been taught for truth well past any of the Gen. 6:3's STRIVING OF THE HOLY GHOST ones for well past 120 years. (pre/flood ones) And which have not changed in anything per/say, is what [IS TO BE HATED!] as satanic!
Did we get that?

All & any false doctrine is to be exposed!
Can you be a Christian and call this mess a Christian church?? Why call Christ's very own out in Rev. 18:4 if Christ was IN this Babylonian mess??

And these so called 'men' or she/shems that are supposed to be REFORMERS??? All they know how to do is attack the poster & never REFORM their [known] garbage/tised denominations! Unity is their cry, the Gospel is Only Beliv'ism + O.S.A.S. and only in the New Testament does one find the Gospel.. they falsely teach! And yes, We have NO LAW.. and on & on satan goes with these men(?)cop/outs! +,+,+,+, and... what do you want Lord? to get us killed??
Check this out! And where are these guy/less wonders still at in 2010??

[69] Now Peter sat without in the palace: and a damsel came unto him, saying, Thou also wast with Jesus of Galilee.
[70] But he denied before them all, saying, I know not what thou sayest.
[71] And when he was gone out into the porch, another maid saw him, and said unto them that were there, This fellow was also with Jesus of Nazareth.
[72] And again he denied with an oath, I do not know the man.
[73] And after a while came unto him they that stood by, and said to Peter, Surely thou also art one of them; for thy speech bewrayeth thee.
[74] Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man. And immediately the cock crew.
[75] And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly.
You can be sure when one finds these Peters! + even after the 120 years of te Holy Spirits Striving, they are still as hard as flint!

Well, what does the Real Eternal Gospel 'TEACH' is the question???

And the membership?? That [is between us & God!] Rom. 8:14 And if we as members take these postings personal, do not accuse the poster of doing [what the Holy Spirit is doing. ]

OK: Attacking any poster is not of God! Period!

BUT, for any one [not attacking] 'OPEN KNOWN DAILY SIN TAUGHT FOR TRUTH FOR WELL PAST 120 YEARS AS FALSE DOCTRINE?? THAT ONE IS TO BE LEFT WITHOUT THE SEALING OF GOD! (compare Isa, 59:1-2.. READ IT!)

Eze. 9 Identification is 'SIGH AND CRY FOR ALL THE ABOMINATIONS THAT BE DONE IN THE MIDST THEREOF.'

Here is the time/frame that we are well into! (in part)
2 Thess..2
[1] Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
[2] That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

And this is the Rev. 14:6-10 WARNING! But what had to pre/ceed this? A FALLING AWAY FIRST!

1 Peter 4 agrees!
[17] For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

Christ in the New Testament documentd:

Matt. 10
[34] Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
(Naw Lord, 'we men' will not buy into that! we teach NOTHING THAT IS OFFENSIVE TO satan!)
[35] For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
(but Lord, we are your Brothers & Sisters in the same corrupt 'daughter' folds mess! And we are [All] sinners you say, huh?! And we are saved in sin, not from sin!!)

[36] And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
[37] He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
[38] And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, [is not worthy of me.]
(Lord, you know that we need not work carrying any cross! And WORTHY??? I do 'believ'ism' & that is [THE REQUIREMENT LORD], you best go back and read what you have said!!)

Luke 14
[23] And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.
[24] For I say unto you, That [ none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper].
(But Lord you know the the Jews are to be your chosen again!)

[25] And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them,

[26] If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, [yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.]
(Lord, there you go again with something that is CONDITIONAL! And.. CANNOT BE WHAT??? Your Disciple?? Just more CONDITIONS LORD, that I do not accept... but I do believ'ism! So will just keep on bringing my fruit offerings! Gen. 4:7)

[27] And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.
(Just more Obedient Conditional Working Labor Lord! or 'l'ord with meaning another little lord!)
Josh.7 (Finds why the Lord will not be 'IN' any fold! And the Rev. 17:1-5 BUNCH is in NO doubt on this Truth!)
[1] But the children of Israel committed a trespass in the accursed thing: for Achan, the son of Carmi, the son of Zabdi, the son of Zerah, of the tribe of Judah, took of the accursed thing: and the anger of the LORD was kindled against the children of Israel.
(a sin that made them all partakers! Joshua was even at fault by not going to the Lord before the 'little' battle, to inquire!.)

[2] And Joshua sent men from Jericho to Ai, which is beside Beth-aven, on the east side of Bethel, and spake unto them, saying, Go up and view the country. And the men went up and viewed Ai.
[3] And they returned to Joshua, and said unto him, Let not all the people go up; but let about two or three thousand men go up and smite Ai; and make not all the people to labour thither; for they are but few.
(It was seen as an easy battle to win! And.. Surely Lord, we of Rev. 17:1-5 are all Brethern Beliv'ism ones in you!))
[4] So there went up thither of the people about three thousand men: and they fled before the men of Ai.
[5] And the men of Ai smote of them about thirty and six men: for they chased them from before the gate even unto Shebarim, and smote them in the going down: wherefore the hearts of the people melted, and became as water.
(and these 'professed 'c'hristian men of today??)

[6] And Joshua rent his clothes, and fell to the earth upon his face before the ark of the LORD until the eventide, he and the elders of Israel, and put dust upon their heads.
[7] And Joshua said, Alas, O Lord GOD, wherefore hast thou at all brought this people over Jordan, to deliver us into the hand of the Amorites, to destroy us? would to God we had been content, and dwelt on the other side Jordan!

(there is one 'BIG' difference seen here below, with them & these ones of today! The today professed ones turn satans wrath on Gods Chosen ones who are seen in Eze. 9 sighing and crying against the trite of satan & his henchmen.!)

[8] O Lord, what shall I say, when Israel turneth their backs before their enemies!

[9] For the Canaanites and all the inhabitants of the land shall hear of it, and shall environ us round, and cut off our name from the earth: and what wilt thou do unto thy great name?

[10] And the LORD said unto Joshua, Get thee up; wherefore liest thou thus upon thy face?
[11] [ Israel hath] sinned, and they have also transgressed my covenant which I commanded them: for they have even taken of the accursed thing, and have also stolen, and dissembled also, and they have put it even among their own stuff.

(Now, get this Eternal Truth! ETERNAL GOSPEL!)

[12] Therefore the children of Israel could not stand before their enemies, but turned their backs before their enemies, because they were accursed: neither will I be with you any more, except ye destroy the accursed from among you.

(Now who here on this earth today will once again call God a Liar?? And this is why you have the Rev. 17:1-5 ALL BEING A CHRISTLESS BABYLONIAN MESS! And you will have such ones come forward! Eccl. 3:15)

Rev. 17
[1] And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
[2] With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
(false doctrinal diet!)

[3] So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

[4] And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

(there is [NO NEED] to comment on this, for nearly all past/tense Reformers knew that this was & IS rome!
But what they did not realize at their start, was that at the end of their reformation of only about 120 years, they too would be found to be daughters and THE ABOMINATION OF THE EARTH!)

[5] And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And why so??? Look around at your brothers + sisters in Babylon. God Documented.. NOTHING NEW! Eccl. 3:15

--Elijah
 
What is New God asks? Eccl. 3:15. Spring is again coming, huh? along with this 'time of year...

Sabbath, Doctrine of men? Mark 7:7 This is a post back from Ecc. 1:9-10 time from Elijah. One poster states..

'Some claim Saturday Sabbath has been changed to Sunday due to changes in calendar, or due to politics.

Some say it doesn't matter to God!

Some say we have entered the rest through Jesus Christ.

Where do you stand?'

****

Pastor N.B. here:
OK: Back to the threads square one.

Acts 12:4's Easter? Read verses 1-5.

Celebrate this?
you guys all believe that the ten Commandments are O.T. stuff, until you come to the law that are from the pen of Moses. Then you are in a bind! Notice Deut. 31:9-11 then on up to verse 24-26 'And Moses wrote this law...' 'Take this book of the law, and put it in [the side] of the Ark..' (not inside) What was, & is inside the Ark dear friend?

There was nothing in the Ark save the two tables of stone! 1Ki.8:9

The law of Moses are these seen in 2Chron. 8:13. 'Even after a certain rate every day, offering according to the commandments of Moses, on the Sabbaths, ('s') and on the new moons and on the [solemn feasts], three times in the year, even in the feast of [unleavened bread], and in the feast of the tabernacles.'

You say that all law is nailed to the cross & then tell us that we need to keep a Easter instead, because of a resurrection? Lets check Acts 12:1-5?

Notice verse one. Herod the king was to vex the church. Which church was Peter a member of? Israel of old, or Christ' new offshoot? Verse 5 tells us Peter was looked up by his former friends request?

Notice who were KEEPING the.. 'days of unleavened bread' (v.3) Now called Easter for the first & only time. It [WAS NOT PETER keeping this day, he was in jail!]
'And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison,...[intending after Easter] to bring him forth [to the people.]' v. 4 And remember that in verse 1-3 the church was vexed & James was killed, ...it pleased
the Jews who were keeping this [feast day] you call Easter!

Whose side are you folk on friend? You still want to destroy the Royal Law that are still inside the Ark in heaven try Rev. 11:19 & Rev. 22:8-9.

Two separate laws. One used to lead us to Christ, then the other one. The very LETTER or 'Epistle' of His Character to be re/created into the heart, This is the one 's'atan wants to 'void' out! 2Cor. 3:3 & try Rom. 3:13

Christ' death did away with the law that Moses wrote, the one that you all now, want to keep! And Paul talks about a 'new gospel' in Gal.1:6-9..
'another gospel...which [is not] another...there be some that trouble you and [pervert] the gospel of Christ...accursed...If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, [let him be accursed.]'

'I am afraid of you...Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.'! (all plural) You have repeated the exact same history as God requireth, only you are on the wrong side of the Everlasting Gospel!! Read all of Gal. 4:4-11. And in verse 19 of chapter 3 of Gal. it stated when Moses law would cease. And why it was added. Its service was used in the Sanctuary service to bring souls to Christ.

Can you be sure?
In Acts 15:1-24 you can be sure. 'And certain men....taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the [manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.']
Was that all? No. Hardly! verse two tells us that Paul & Barnabus went up to Jerusalem unto thr elders and the apostles about this problem. But notice after they got there in verse 4. (this below is what you are doing also)
'But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was (NO.1) needful to circumcise them , and (NO.2) to command them to [keep the law of Moses.]' verse 5. This is exactly what the Catholic church & ALL her Harlot Daughters are doing! (and you also!)

A mistake? check verse 24!! 'Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, [subverting your souls,] (notice, Twice Again) saying, Ye must be circumcised, [and] keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:..'

Just some closing thoughts? Who will hear us? try 1Jn. 4:6 If a person will not look it up?.. the thought then comes to mind, that their thoughts will very soon, come to a halt.
The closing thoughts take us to the time of what your perverted gospel, calls the resurrection????

The offshoot denomination are all still keeping the Seventh-day Sabbath
commandment! It started at Fri. sundown & closed when?? Think!

SATURDAY AT SUNDOWN!! After Saturday sunset, the spices that had been all prepared beforehand, found the women [waiting for daylight?] One would have to be off their Spiritual Rocker if one thought this!! It is hard for a non/Christian to understand what anyone who loves their master would do, it seems? Well, 'i' will tell you what they did! (while the men were all in hiding for fear, fear from the 'keepers' of Moses law)

The women are recorded to proceed.. '..as it [began to dawn] toward the first day of the week..' when was this? Verse 2-6 & v. 6 says, 'He is not here: for he is risen..' It is a fact that Christ was gone already! 'Easter'

sunrise? Hardly!! They were keeping the Seventh-day Sabbath! THEY WERE NOW DOING A WORK THAT THEY WOULD NOT DO BEFORE!! But again, when did they start this work sorrow?

Christ was gone well before daylight. Lets check another? But lets use the Apostates favorite, you never hear of these other passages in April, at least not in full context. 'And when the Sabbath was past...And very early in the morning...they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun. Even this does not say
when the Master arose!

Another from Luke 24 in part. 'Very early in the morning, they came ..
bringing spices which they had prepared..And they found the stone rolled away..And found not the body of the Lord Jesus.' Again, the Evening & the Morning made the day, night first, and the light part last! What time was it? It is a Gospel Truth that Christ was already arisen BEFORE OUR Sunday HAD ANY SUNSHINE!

It seems that John who lived the longest, and who wrote the Rev. would
be able to give us a good report? He was inspired to pen his words in chapter 20 giving us the total thoughts of the Godhead from both angles.
He tells us about the women coming to the tomb & where the men were? And why they were in hiding. And also about the time of day it really was, as found in verses 1 & 19. In part it says,

'The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, (notice the word EARLY again) when it was [yet dark,] unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.' When it was yet dark & Christ was gone already!!!

Remember that Jn. wrote Rev. near 96 A.D. 27 yrs after the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. He could have 'tidied' any previous understanding up, if it had been needed.

Read on, for there was quite a commotion! We will continue on in verse 11. Mary is broken up & crying, and remember it is 'yet dark'
'and when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and she saw Jesus
standing, and [knew not] that it was Jesus. Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.'
Again why did she not recognize him before? It was dark & she was weeping! (these were real loving tears friend!!)

Notice another point. Think about the thief on the cross which some say went straight into paradise that same day that he died? Remember that Jesus was in the grave nearly three day before his resurrection. In verse 17 He tells us that, '..Touch me not for I am not yet ascended to my Father..' Yet what day does the Gospel tell us that this was? Notice verse 19,

'Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, where the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews..' (and the 'men' of today??) And some of the professed call this a worship service. But again verse one call this.. 'while it was yet dark'! Here it is the same day, AND the FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK! Go slowly..it is dark, night & Sunday. (Or Saturday Night as we know it.) Do you remember that the Sabbath was past at SUNSET? And in Gen. 1, the dark part comes first? The Gospel says that the 'evening and the morning were the first day.' try Gen. 1:5 & 8 & 13 & 19 & 23 & Gen. 2:2-3 man was created and the Sabbath given.

Is your message something new? Hardly!
'And he (satan-great whore) shall speak great words against the most High....and think to change times and laws..' Dan. 7:25

'Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that were against us..took it out of the way, nailing it to the cross..'

You do [your] thing, (try Eph. 6:12) but re/read the Gospel, stating that, 's'atan will..'think to change times and laws.' The 'Remnant' will have NO part with that! Then see Eze. 9! Yes, there was the SDA R&H
reporting to have a Easter Sunrise service a short time ago, a hundred of them??
But God asks, 'What is new? Nothing new under the sun.' They tell us! Try Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl.3:15

In the Masters service for the quick ending of His work,
Pastor N.B.
 
How can there be unity without truth. But yet, everyone thinks they have the truth. Christians need to understand that the truth was thrown to the ground and trampled upon 2000 years ago. And even before, with the Hellenist and Kabbalist. Now Christians, who do you think would trample the truth. Check your history. Who in the past has been known to change what scripture says? :study
 
mdo757 said:
How can there be unity without truth. But yet, everyone thinks they have the truth. Christians need to understand that the truth was thrown to the ground and trampled upon 2000 years ago. And even before, with the Hellenist and Kabbalist. Now Christians, who do you think would trample the truth. Check your history. Who in the past has been known to change what scripture says? :study

Good question! Let me tell it as I read it. There is God & then satan. The ones of Acts 5:32 who have the Holy Ghost and follow (Rom. 8:14 LED) if they will? these are in UNITY. (Christ or satan!) And satan?? ALL WHO DO NOT FOLLOW THE HOLY SPIRIT LEADING in time belong to satan. There are just two camps as 'i' see it. Let me ask it this way?? Christ came to His very Own! (John 1:11 & was rejected)
OK: Which then were now, His own??? The 'yoked' in membership of His ex/fold, or the ones (remnant) who followed Him out in Matt. 25 + Acts's New extended Fold??
Try this verse of Christs..

[24] No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. Matt.6

Elijah
 
Everyone says the Holy Spirit has shown them the truth. But what is the HISTORY, what does HISTORY say? :nag :nag :nag
 
mdo757 said:
Everyone says the Holy Spirit has shown them the truth. But what is the HISTORY, what does HISTORY say? :nag :nag :nag

The Truth has left NOTHING out of history or has Its Word! The Word of God. See Eccl. 1:9-10 + Ecc. 3:15. Even down to the race card. (hatred of Jews + the Jew Christ & His 7th Day Sabbath.

You tell me what God has left out?? Isa. 5 says... WHAT MORE COULD BE DONE, THAN HE HAD DONE????

He even tells of [ALL] His savational promises being CONDITIONAL from Adams day one on, and the ones of 2 Peter 2:19-22 with their satanic false promises of liberty & the End result. Even calling it a 'TRUE PROVERB' (in history!)
And yourself?? go look! :crying

--Elijah
 
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