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Bible Study Who Will Have Immortality?

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Who now has Immortality?

Created angels who are ministering spirits? or satan who is also created? No, satan the highest evil ‘s’pirit just teaches that mankind are the ones that can never die! either by being in a lake of eternally burning fire, or by ‘only believing’ in Christ.

James 2:26
[26] For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.


1 Tim. 1
[17] Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

1 Tim. 6
[16] Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

Rev. 21
[23] And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
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[27] And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

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Rev.22
[1] And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
[2] In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

Even here one finds that the tree of life was required for mankind to be ‘conditionally’ immortal. And when Adam sinned the tree of life was removed, and without the Godhead’s PLAN put into effect, mankind would have been eternally gone as the rejecters of the conditional requirements of the plan will forever be. Obad. 1:16

In Gen. 2:26 before sin.
[16] And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
[17] But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

And after sin??

Gen. 3
[23] Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
[24] So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Again note who only had & has immortality!

And next came satan’s words of being a liar from the beginning, and his message is still being taught for truth today by most all of professed Christendom of Rev. 17:1-5 as seen in Gen. 3.

[3] But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
[4] And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

Lets just leave off for now with you knowing that neither Eve nor Adam had sinned yet! And if they had not done so, the Tree of Life would have still given then OBEDIENT conditional immortality! So, the PLAN OF SALVATION was not even needed yet. But had GOD WARNED & DOCUMENTED THAT THEY WOULD DIE?

Now enter.... All of the Jer. 17:5’s ones of today, with adding on to the Lord’s WORD of Gen. 2:7 (compare Eccl. 3:14:study with Rev. last couple verses of warning:study)

[7] And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man [[became]] a living soul.

---Elijah





























 
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As 'immortality' only relates to the 'body', it would appear ALL believers will have immortality. We find in Rev 20 that Satan and ALL his minions, will be cast into the lake of fire, where they will be tormented forever, along with ALL the souls whose names were not found in the book of life.
 
As 'immortality' only relates to the 'body', it would appear ALL believers will have immortality. We find in Rev 20 that Satan and ALL his minions, will be cast into the lake of fire, where they will be tormented forever, along with ALL the souls whose names were not found in the book of life.

So the Godheads Inspiration twice stated in Heb. saying that THEY ONLY have Immortality means their BODY???:chin

And you say.. [believers will 'all' have immortality]. I see it this way... as was the case of Adam + Eve, the saved will once again have immortality as was the case with the first two ones, it was CONDITIONAL, and these last ones will be saved as seen in Na. 1:9, but still will be REQUIRED to eat of the tree of life.

In Rev. 21 + we see...
[27] And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Rev.22

[1] And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
[2] In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and [[the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations]].

--Elijah
 
I think we will all live forever. That is good news for people who repent of their sin since their lives will be lives of paradise. For those who refuse to repent of their sin, if there are any, their lives will be lives of horror.


Whoops--I didn't notice this thread was in the Bible study forum. I don't know the rules here so maybe I shouldn't have posted.
 
I think we will all live forever. That is good news for people who repent of their sin since their lives will be lives of paradise. For those who refuse to repent of their sin, if there are any, their lives will be lives of horror.


Whoops--I didn't notice this thread was in the Bible study forum. I don't know the rules here so maybe I shouldn't have posted.

That seems like good Bible Study to me, Elijah23!;)
Elijah674
 
So the Godheads Inspiration twice stated in Heb. saying that THEY ONLY have Immortality means their BODY???:chin

You'll have to quote the exact verse in Hebrews Elijah...I couldn't figure out what version of the Bible you are quoting from...maybe you can tell us. At this point I can't tell if the word "immortality" is coming from you or God's word. As God is NOT subject to time, He doesn't need immortality, nor would it apply to Him.
 
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And Gen. 3
[22] And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
[23] Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
[24] So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.


King James Version 1 Tim. 1
[16] Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.
[17] Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

1 Tim. 6
[14] That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
[15] Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
[16] Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
 
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You'll have to quote the exact verse in Hebrews Elijah...I couldn't figure out what version of the Bible you are quoting from...maybe you can tell us. At this point I can't tell if the word "immortality" is coming from you or God's word. As God is NOT subject to time, He doesn't need immortality, not would it apply to Him.

I Goofed! Gave the wrong Chapters, it was Tim. But the same INSPIRATION, huh?:yes
 
And Gen. 3
[22] And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
[23] Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
[24] So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.


King James Version 1 Tim. 1
[16] Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.
[17] Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

1 Tim. 6
[14] That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
[15] Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
[16] Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.


OK, these verses are referring to Jesus Christ, and as He is also a man, His man body WILL be immortal.
 
Further, Jesus still has the marks and scars of his crucifixion today. His body was resurrected. Perhaps the difference here is of those who do and do not have a spirit. Does it not say one has to be born again; not of flesh but of Spirit? God is Spirit. It appears to me that satan (hate typing his name) and his demons are still of a spirited origin. Immortality, then, appears to imply that it applies only to our bodies; the flesh. My Lord was resurrected in his flesh and so shall we be when we rise with Him in the last day. Those found to have gained the Spirit of God will be accepted and those who are not will still be immortal...though they will wish they were not. I conclude that those who are not born again of any kind of spirit will not be resurrected nor be immortal.

***Just making it clear that this is my perception and is by no means the truth.
 
Further, Jesus still has the marks and scars of his crucifixion today. His body was resurrected. Perhaps the difference here is of those who do and do not have a spirit. Does it not say one has to be born again; not of flesh but of Spirit? God is Spirit. It appears to me that satan (hate typing his name) and his demons are still of a spirited origin. Immortality, then, appears to imply that it applies only to our bodies; the flesh. My Lord was resurrected in his flesh and so shall we be when we rise with Him in the last day. Those found to have gained the Spirit of God will be accepted and those who are not will still be immortal...though they will wish they were not. I conclude that those who are not born again of any kind of spirit will not be resurrected nor be immortal.

***Just making it clear that this is my perception and is by no means the truth.

Those found to have gained the Spirit of God will be accepted and those who are not will still be immortal...though ..'

You might have meant mortal there one place that you have immortal? For no sinner will eat of the tree of life to have immortality given.

But you sound better than most that I read around here to me.;)
Here is another thought. We read that flesh & blood will not inherit the kingdom of God 1 Cor. 15:50. And surely Adam was flesh & blood before sin. So perhaps we see this alike, that it is sinful flesh & blood that is meant?
 
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