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Who worships the beast?

All the beasts in prophecy are Empires/ Emperiors. All the horns are Kingdom/Kings

A horn on a Beast is the Kingdom/King that rules that Empire. When you have two horns then two Kingdoms rule the Empire. And the final beast has 10 horns that means the final Empire will have 10 kingdoms that control it. And a little horn will rise out of that empire and userp, either by taking over or defeating 3 of the horns. that final little horn will be the Anti-christ or son of perdition He will rule the Beast and is the beast in person.

Thessalonians does not use symbolisim and it does not need to. It is a pain speach description of the final great evil leader who will decieve the world.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

I've heard all the symbolic interpretations before, and that is not what I'm asking about.

What are the characteristics that separate any "beast" from your run of the mill dominions/countries/empires etc.?
What is it that all the "beasts" have that differentiates them from the rest of the world?
Why is the word "beast" used regarding these particular entities which share these particular qualities?:chin
 
Thats what I was saying about the waters where the whore sitteth.THe waters are many nations and tongues.THe people who dwell where Jerusalem sits are from all over the world.Israel is a nation of immigrants.Have you not looked at the demographics of Israel???????????
They are from many nations.

Nope...sorry that's just too much of a stretch. It's talking about gentile nations.

You clearly have enough invested in this scenario that you are performing illogical mental gymnastics to make the pieces fit. I'm not buying it.

Be prepared to resist all deception that the people within the state of Isreal will go through. Thats all I'm saying. Just incase your wrong. Be prepared to be dragged before the councils.

Remember you could still be taken there forcibly.
 
Nope...sorry that's just too much of a stretch. It's talking about gentile nations.

You clearly have enough invested in this scenario that you are performing illogical mental gymnastics to make the pieces fit. I'm not buying it.

Be prepared to resist all deception that the people within the state of Isreal will go through. Thats all I'm saying. Just incase your wrong. Be prepared to be dragged before the councils.

Remember you could still be taken there forcibly.

Its not to much of a stretch if you know where the whore sitteth.You claim the whore sitteth in Jerusalem and you are right about this..You are the one trying to stretch those waters around the entire world.The waters are where the whore sitteth just as it is written.

Rev 17;15
And he saith unto me,The waters which thou sawsest,where the whore sitteth,ar peoples,and multitudes,and nations,and tongues.

Its speaking of people Doc.Not countries.And the people who dwell there have been gatherd into Babylon from all nations.
Here is the demographics of Israel once more copied from wikipedia.



After reaching 7,406,900 inhabitants according to initial data from the 2008 census,[3] in 2010 Israel's population was an estimated 7.6 million,[9] of whom 6,051,000 are Jews.[9][10][11][299] As of 2008, Arab citizens of Israel comprise just under 20% of the country's total population.[300]

Israel has two official languages, Hebrew and Arabic.[1] Hebrew is the primary language of the state and is spoken by the majority of the population, and Arabic is spoken by the Arab minority. Many Israelis communicate reasonably well in English, as many television programs are broadcast in this language and English is taught from the early grades in elementary school. As a country of immigrants, many languages can be heard on the streets. Due to mass immigration from the former Soviet Union and Ethiopia (some 120,000 Ethiopian Jews live in Israel),[301] Russian and Amharic are widely spoken.[302] Between 1990 and 1994, the Russian immigration increased Israel's population by twelve percent.[303] Out of more than one million Russian-speaking immigrants in Israel,[304] about 300,000 are considered gentile by the Orthodox rabbinate, because, under the Orthodox interpretation, only children to Jewish mothers are considered Jews.[305][306]

Over the last decade, large numbers of migrant workers from Romania, Thailand, China, Africa and South America have settled in Israel. Exact figures are unknown as many of them are living in the country illegally,[307] but estimates run in the region of 200,000.[308] Over 16,000 African asylum seekers have entered Israel in recent years.[309] The main language amongst deaf Israelis is Israeli Sign Language (ISL).[310]

Retention of Israel's population since 1948 is about even or greater, when compared to other countries with mass immigration.[311] Emigration from Israel (yerida) to other countries, primarily the United States and Canada, is described by demographers as modest,[312] but is often cited by Israeli government ministries as a major threat to Israel's future
 
Oh goody! Where can I look up the book to see if my names on there?

Is it on the internet somewhere?

The answer was given to you in the beginning of this thread but you wouldnt believe the truth.
It is the people of Babylon the great who worship the beast and recieves his mark.That it his kingdom.

Why cant you believe what is in front of your face?
 
The answer was given to you in the beginning of this thread but you wouldnt believe the truth.
It is the people of Babylon the great who worship the beast and recieves his mark.That it his kingdom.

Why cant you believe what is in front of your face?

What do you want me to believe thats so important?

Spit it out in clear up to date English. Dont use scripture just use modern terms and geographical locations.
 
What do you want me to believe thats so important?

Spit it out in clear up to date English. Dont use scripture just use modern terms and geographical locations.

Theres alot of things Id like you to know.This one thing is that the mark of the beast shall be found in Babylon the great according to scripture.Id like you to know God's people are told to flee from Babylon just as Jesus told the same people to flee out of Judea in the gospel.I would like for you to understand that the abomination that causes desolation is the mark of the beast and it is for that reason Gods people are told to flee.
I would even like you to know who it is that shall send an army into Israel and give those people that mark.
But I havnt gotten that far with you yet.I would like for you to know his name even.
 
Theres alot of things Id like you to know.This one thing is that the mark of the beast shall be found in Babylon the great according to scripture.Id like you to know God's people are told to flee from Babylon just as Jesus told the same people to flee out of Judea in the gospel.I would like for you to understand that the abomination that causes desolation is the mark of the beast and it is for that reason Gods people are told to flee.
I would even like you to know who it is that shall send an army into Israel and give those people that mark.
But I havnt gotten that far with you yet.I would like for you to know his name even.

Babylon is the world, those who have not the faith of Jesus Christ, because if they did, then they would overcome the world.

1 jn 5:4

For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

babylon is all who are not born of God, building their tower of babel to heaven by human works and effort and merit, without God.
 
Babylon is the world, those who have not the faith of Jesus Christ, because if they did, then they would overcome the world.

1 jn 5:4

For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

babylon is all who are not born of God, building their tower of babel to heaven by human works and effort and merit, without God.

Rev 17;18 says its a city.Seems you have stretched the truth to the ends of the earth as well.
 
shi:

Rev 17;18 says its a city.

So. The scripture says Abraham sought a city Heb 11:

10For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

But yet He was Heir of the World rom 4:

13For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

You making a big deal out of nothing really, and totally missing the point.
 
shi:



So. The scripture says Abraham sought a city Heb 11:

10For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

But yet He was Heir of the World rom 4:

13For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

You making a big deal out of nothing really, and totally missing the point.

Im making a big deal about the truth.And you have no clue what is going on today.
 
shil



Yes. and you are missing the point.

Im not missing your point.Your just wrong.

Rev 17;18
And the woman which thou sawest is that great city,which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

The scripture says it a city saved and it is a city.
Te verse above is for the mind which hath wisdom.

Rev 17;9
And here is the mind which hath wisdom.The seven heads are seven mountains,on which the woman sitteth.

Its very simple Saved.You just have to except it as a child.The word of God is not made hard to understand.You just have to understand it as a child.It all makes perfect sense if you will listen to it.You dont have to make a mountain out of a molehill just so it will fit the veiw you want it to fit.If you do chose to change it as you have then you can not understand it.
 
Theres alot of things Id like you to know.This one thing is that the mark of the beast shall be found in Babylon the great according to scripture.Id like you to know God's people are told to flee from Babylon just as Jesus told the same people to flee out of Judea in the gospel.I would like for you to understand that the abomination that causes desolation is the mark of the beast and it is for that reason Gods people are told to flee.
I would even like you to know who it is that shall send an army into Israel and give those people that mark.
But I havnt gotten that far with you yet.I would like for you to know his name even.

Your using scriptural terms again. I asked for modern English. Up to date geographical locations and terms please. Don't talk about Babylon tell me in our modern world exactly where you think it is. I want exact boundaries.
 
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