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Desire to be a vessel of honor unto the Lord Jesus Christ?
Join Hidden in Him and For His Glory for discussions on how
https://christianforums.net/threads/become-a-vessel-of-honor-part-2.112306/
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Quote: ...Noahide Laws. Do you think they are a good idea for Christians? Stop dancing around the question.
My answer is no
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Peachy. glad to have you on board.
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Messianic Aliyeh
To the Israel of God who know their identity:
New Torah:
The New Torah is the New Testament. Torah is Commandments or Law. When Jesus said: *whatsoever I have Commanded you* (Matthew 28:20), these Commandments became the New Torah upon which the entire New Covenant is established. Like Moses, Jesus Messieh gave a Torah to the Kingdom of God. The New Torah to the Israel of God is the only Covenant God recognizes after Calvary. The New Covenant of Jeremiah 31:31 replaces the Old Covenant. That the Old Covenant was the Old Torah no scholar or honest person would deny. Rightfully then, the New Covenant would be a New Torah. And the New Torah would replace the Old. Those who follow Messieh then will follow the New Torah and convert from the Old. And to Peter he said: *When thou are converted strengthen the Brethren (). This could only mean conversion from the Old Torah and its means of salvation to the New Torah and its new salvation.
Jesus Messieh was not a priest of the Old Torah. His blood did not consecrate or sanctify the Old Torah. Jesus said clearly that his blood in the Communion Memorial was a token of the New Covenant or New Torah. And to this we drink every time we tip the cup.
The plan of salvation given by Jesus in Matthew 28:19 (BJV), Mark 16:16 (BJV), Luke 24:49-50 (BJV), and brought into its full doctrinal statement in Acts 2:38, is the conversion of Jew and Gentile to the New Torah. For anyone to use Acts 2:38 as a means to take any soul back under the Old Torah, is to deceive them both in doctrine and in the Communnion Cup. Such are unworthy of salvation and indeed do not have it. They are fallen from grace (Galatians 5:4).
The Apostles then afterward were commanded to teach the nations the precepts of the New Torah as Jesus Messieh had instructed them in Matthew 28:19-20 (BJV). These were not sent to teach the nations observance of the Old Torah. They were not sent as Ministers of the Law, but Ministers of Grace and Truth.
Converts to the New Torah of Jesus Messieh will begin a spiritual journey. Unlike the Jews and Noahide converts to Judaism, our focus is not the Old Torah and its bondage, an earthly Jerusalem or real estate (Israel), or a profane temple site. Our focus and faith is on a New Jerusalem and the Temple of God therein.
Because many have been deceived to believe that Old Torah Judaism has some special advantage, this page is to prove this is false and a heresy. May the Lord Jesus Messieh be your Saviour and may you never doubt that salvation for all nations, Jews included, is by and through Messieh's death, burial, and resurrection, as celebrated in water baptism and the infilling of the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Spiritual Aliyeh:
The return to the Messianic prophecies of the Old Testament and the proper interpretations as given by Messieh and the Apostles, is once again becoming the focus of the New Testament Ecclesia.
The correct interpretation of Old Testament Bible Prophecy will once again come before the world. Many Jews will deny again that these point to Jesus Messieh. Dispensationalist will attempt to twist the Messianic hope to Israel alone and continue to make the new Ecclesia an accident or plan 'B' of God.
The fact is that the Messianic hope concerns Jews and Gentiles and there is no difference between them as it relates to the eternal purpose of God. The truth of Jesus as the Messieh and the entire New Testament record hinges upon the Messianic interpretation pointing to Messieh and the new Ecclesia as the Kingdom of God.
The Ecclesia of Messieh is transitioning for the post tribulation resurrection/rapture and the Millennial, by return to the Messianic focus and hope. As the endtime draws us closer to the feast of trumpets, God is raising up prophets to announce these truths among those called to be endtime disciples of Jesus Messieh.
These web-pages are for your edification to focus you upon the correct interpretation of Scripture as given by Messieh and the Apostles, without the crutch or need of Judaistic, Catholic, or Protestant revisionist errors.
The entire New Testament (Brit Chadashah), stands as a testimony that the Messianic interpretation of the Old Testament is correct. This establishes the authority of Acts 2:38 as the one single verse of Scripture that contains the only Messianic plan of salvation for Jews and Gentiles. This one verse contains the entire faith upon which the eternal purpose of God for Jews and Gentiles is fulfilled.
The eternal purpose of God is not natural Israel according to flesh and blood excluding Gentiles. It is not a Gentile Church excluding Jews. The eternal purpose is the Israel of God, ...the new Ecclesia, born of the Spirit, which is the true seed of Abraham through Jesus Messieh our Lord.
Join with the endtime disciples of Jesus Messieh as we come forth once again to declare the Messianic hope for Jews and Gentiles in Messieh and the new Ecclesia alone. Present Judaistic and Gentile Messianic movements that deny Jesus replaced old Israel with the New Testament Ecclesia, must be corrected.
Messieh's Bride has awakened. She is putting on her jewels of holiness and godliness. Soon the cry will go forth: *the bridegroom cometh go ye out to meet him*. The Messieh and his Bride will be united. Think it not strange that the true Bride will not worship or fall in love with she who for her abominations, sorcery, adulteries, and fornications, was divorced and put away at Calvary (old Israel). The Messieh's Bride will not enter into a lesbian relationship with her whose covenant ended on the Cross. The Messieh's Bride will not drink from the great whore's wine cup of Mystery Babylon, with which she has deceived the world that she is still in covenant with God apart from Jesus. Messieh's Bride knows that she alone has the only valid covenant, ...and this New Covenant (Brit Chadashah), with the house of the new Ecclesia Israel is the New Testament, the present Torah of Hashem.
And lastly, the Messieh's Bride will not enter into a lesbian relationship with any daughters of this imperious woman and kiss up to them (religious organizations and denominations within Judaism, Islam, and Christianity). Therefore, the Messieh's Bride will separate and come out from among them *Saith the Hashem* and endure the tribulation. In these latter times this may mean to come out of their Synagogues, Churches, and Temples, so that Messieh may be glorified in his Saints before and at his appearing.
To the Israel of God who know their identity:
New Torah:
The New Torah is the New Testament. Torah is Commandments or Law. When Jesus said: *whatsoever I have Commanded you* (Matthew 28:20), these Commandments became the New Torah upon which the entire New Covenant is established. Like Moses, Jesus Messieh gave a Torah to the Kingdom of God. The New Torah to the Israel of God is the only Covenant God recognizes after Calvary. The New Covenant of Jeremiah 31:31 replaces the Old Covenant. That the Old Covenant was the Old Torah no scholar or honest person would deny. Rightfully then, the New Covenant would be a New Torah. And the New Torah would replace the Old. Those who follow Messieh then will follow the New Torah and convert from the Old. And to Peter he said: *When thou are converted strengthen the Brethren (). This could only mean conversion from the Old Torah and its means of salvation to the New Torah and its new salvation.
Jesus Messieh was not a priest of the Old Torah. His blood did not consecrate or sanctify the Old Torah. Jesus said clearly that his blood in the Communion Memorial was a token of the New Covenant or New Torah. And to this we drink every time we tip the cup.
The plan of salvation given by Jesus in Matthew 28:19 (BJV), Mark 16:16 (BJV), Luke 24:49-50 (BJV), and brought into its full doctrinal statement in Acts 2:38, is the conversion of Jew and Gentile to the New Torah. For anyone to use Acts 2:38 as a means to take any soul back under the Old Torah, is to deceive them both in doctrine and in the Communnion Cup. Such are unworthy of salvation and indeed do not have it. They are fallen from grace (Galatians 5:4).
The Apostles then afterward were commanded to teach the nations the precepts of the New Torah as Jesus Messieh had instructed them in Matthew 28:19-20 (BJV). These were not sent to teach the nations observance of the Old Torah. They were not sent as Ministers of the Law, but Ministers of Grace and Truth.
Converts to the New Torah of Jesus Messieh will begin a spiritual journey. Unlike the Jews and Noahide converts to Judaism, our focus is not the Old Torah and its bondage, an earthly Jerusalem or real estate (Israel), or a profane temple site. Our focus and faith is on a New Jerusalem and the Temple of God therein.
Because many have been deceived to believe that Old Torah Judaism has some special advantage, this page is to prove this is false and a heresy. May the Lord Jesus Messieh be your Saviour and may you never doubt that salvation for all nations, Jews included, is by and through Messieh's death, burial, and resurrection, as celebrated in water baptism and the infilling of the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Spiritual Aliyeh:
The return to the Messianic prophecies of the Old Testament and the proper interpretations as given by Messieh and the Apostles, is once again becoming the focus of the New Testament Ecclesia.
The correct interpretation of Old Testament Bible Prophecy will once again come before the world. Many Jews will deny again that these point to Jesus Messieh. Dispensationalist will attempt to twist the Messianic hope to Israel alone and continue to make the new Ecclesia an accident or plan 'B' of God.
The fact is that the Messianic hope concerns Jews and Gentiles and there is no difference between them as it relates to the eternal purpose of God. The truth of Jesus as the Messieh and the entire New Testament record hinges upon the Messianic interpretation pointing to Messieh and the new Ecclesia as the Kingdom of God.
The Ecclesia of Messieh is transitioning for the post tribulation resurrection/rapture and the Millennial, by return to the Messianic focus and hope. As the endtime draws us closer to the feast of trumpets, God is raising up prophets to announce these truths among those called to be endtime disciples of Jesus Messieh.
These web-pages are for your edification to focus you upon the correct interpretation of Scripture as given by Messieh and the Apostles, without the crutch or need of Judaistic, Catholic, or Protestant revisionist errors.
The entire New Testament (Brit Chadashah), stands as a testimony that the Messianic interpretation of the Old Testament is correct. This establishes the authority of Acts 2:38 as the one single verse of Scripture that contains the only Messianic plan of salvation for Jews and Gentiles. This one verse contains the entire faith upon which the eternal purpose of God for Jews and Gentiles is fulfilled.
The eternal purpose of God is not natural Israel according to flesh and blood excluding Gentiles. It is not a Gentile Church excluding Jews. The eternal purpose is the Israel of God, ...the new Ecclesia, born of the Spirit, which is the true seed of Abraham through Jesus Messieh our Lord.
Join with the endtime disciples of Jesus Messieh as we come forth once again to declare the Messianic hope for Jews and Gentiles in Messieh and the new Ecclesia alone. Present Judaistic and Gentile Messianic movements that deny Jesus replaced old Israel with the New Testament Ecclesia, must be corrected.
Messieh's Bride has awakened. She is putting on her jewels of holiness and godliness. Soon the cry will go forth: *the bridegroom cometh go ye out to meet him*. The Messieh and his Bride will be united. Think it not strange that the true Bride will not worship or fall in love with she who for her abominations, sorcery, adulteries, and fornications, was divorced and put away at Calvary (old Israel). The Messieh's Bride will not enter into a lesbian relationship with her whose covenant ended on the Cross. The Messieh's Bride will not drink from the great whore's wine cup of Mystery Babylon, with which she has deceived the world that she is still in covenant with God apart from Jesus. Messieh's Bride knows that she alone has the only valid covenant, ...and this New Covenant (Brit Chadashah), with the house of the new Ecclesia Israel is the New Testament, the present Torah of Hashem.
And lastly, the Messieh's Bride will not enter into a lesbian relationship with any daughters of this imperious woman and kiss up to them (religious organizations and denominations within Judaism, Islam, and Christianity). Therefore, the Messieh's Bride will separate and come out from among them *Saith the Hashem* and endure the tribulation. In these latter times this may mean to come out of their Synagogues, Churches, and Temples, so that Messieh may be glorified in his Saints before and at his appearing.
Vic C.
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I just can't help but notice that lately there have been some really off the wall topics generated. These topics are more inline with current events and Covenant theology and really don't fit the style of topics and discussion the members expect in our End Times and prophecy forum.
Most of us don't even recognize this stuff as valid from a Biblical POV and it certainly hasn't lent itself to any form of a worthwhile Bible study. Lets get back to the Bible.
Further threads like this will be removed promptly. It's just a bunch of talking points and
Most of us don't even recognize this stuff as valid from a Biblical POV and it certainly hasn't lent itself to any form of a worthwhile Bible study. Lets get back to the Bible.
Further threads like this will be removed promptly. It's just a bunch of talking points and