Who's Right and Who's Wrong!

[Rollo Tamasi]

2 scenarios:

#1.
Pastor goes on retreat with other pastors.
While praying, he feels God telling him to leave his job as head pastor, but he doesn't know where God is leading him.
When his wife finds out, she says, "you can't leave your job, you have a family to take care of and a house to pay for".
Pastor stays.
Who's right and who's wrong?

#2.
While praying, another pastor feels God telling him to move to Colorado.
His wife suffers from severe back pain that is nearly unbearable in cold weather.
His twin daughters are about to start their senior year in high school.
No one wants to move.
Pastor sells his house, packs his bags, and moves family from Florida to Colorado in January, in middle of winter and middle of girls' senior year.
Who's right and who's wrong/?

 

[reba]

The wife for ever marrying a preacher in the first place , just ask my mom

 

[Obadiah]

If God tells someone to do something, then I suppose they are right to do it no matter the consequences. The question revolve around if it was honestly God telling them to do these things, or they have some other reason but it sounds good to say they were told to do this by God. We can't judge that.

 

[YosefHayim]

Maybe the cold weather will unexpectedly alleviate her pain.

God is right.


I dunno why I just thought of this, but if you preached to a milk carton it would be pastor ized.

 

[icefruit]

Nobody knows that is right and what is wrong. Only god knows that:amen

 

[Deborah13]

1 Kings 17:2-6

New American Standard Bible (NASB)

<sup class="versenum">2 </sup>The word of the Lord came to him, saying, <sup class="versenum">3 </sup>“Go away from here and turn eastward, and hide yourself by the brook Cherith, which is <sup class="footnote" value='[a]'></sup>east of the Jordan. <sup class="versenum">4 </sup>It shall be that you will drink of the brook, and <sup class="crossreference" value='(A)'></sup>I have commanded the ravens to provide for you there.” <sup class="versenum">5 </sup>So he went and did according to the word of the Lord, for he went and lived by the brook Cherith, which is <sup class="footnote" value='[b]'></sup>east of the Jordan. <sup class="versenum">6 </sup>The ravens brought him bread and meat in the morning and bread and meat in the evening, and he would drink from the brook.

God told Elijah to leave here, go there, He would have the ravens feed him and there would be water. If Elijah had not listened to the Lord he would have had trouble. There was a draught, no water, no food.

These pastors had a place called "there".

 

[Deborah13]

continued to the widow...

<sup class="versenum">9 </sup>“Arise, go to <sup class="crossreference" value='(E)'></sup>Zarephath, which belongs to Sidon, and stay there; behold, <sup class="crossreference" value='(F)'></sup>I have commanded a widow there to provide for you.â€
¹³Then Elijah said to her, “Do not fear; go, do as you have said, but make me a little bread cake from it first and bring it out to me, and afterward you may make one for yourself and for your son.

This was the widow's "go there" place. She did and the Lord provide to overflowing.

 

[reba]

If God tells someone to do something, then I suppose they are right to do it no matter the consequences. The question revolve around if it was honestly God telling them to do these things, or they have some other reason but it sounds good to say they were told to do this by God. We can't judge that.

Does God always tell us what to do so we 'do it' or does He sometimes tell us stuff to makes us think? He does not tell us stuff that 'goes against' His Word.

I know Mom and Dad prayed about moves churches etc. they prayed as individuals and as a couple... Seems mom went with dad...

 

[Knotical]

Romans 8:28

If it is God's will He will provide for those who obey Him.

 

[CornerStone]

The wife for ever marrying a preacher in the first place , just ask my mom

Ha!

 

[Obadiah]

[MENTION=47381]reba[/MENTION], I took it in the example that the pastors were being told to do something, and I assumed "go and do" meant to literally go and do. But you are right, God also tells us stuff to make us think and I believe also to educate us. And also right that He will never tell us anything that goes against his word. Where I find trouble in my own life is distinguishing between "God told me too..." and just having the idea myself. There seems to be a whole range to this too. There are, of course, lots of times that it's just my idea, and I know it's just my idea. And then there have been a few times it was so obviously God telling me something that I couldn't deny it. Usually these were things that went so contrary to my own normal ideas or contrary to my thoughts at the time that there was no way it was from my brain! When I followed God in those times, it was never something that went against His word, and every time brought glory to him.

Where I have trouble is all those things that fall somewhere between these two extremes. All those times when it could be God telling me to do something, or it could just be my own idea (or maybe both). A lot of times I honestly have a hard time telling the difference. I'm not saying that if it's just my own idea it's necessarily wrong. God gave us a brain and common sense (well, to most of us anyway... :D ) to use as well as the scripture to guide us, and I think He expects us to make use of these things as well as listening for the voice of His Spirit.

 

[reba]

I copied your post because it made me think cool huh? yup like you said

God gave us a brain and common sense (well, to most of us anyway... :D ) to use as well as the scripture to guide us, and I think He expects us to make use of these things as well as listening for the voice of His Spirit.

 

[Obadiah]

 

[CornerStone]

I'm glad Abraham didn't stay in Haran

 

[Deborah13]

I'm glad Abraham didn't stay in Haran

Me too, he had a "go there" place, I glad he listened.

 

[Free]

It all depends on whether God is actually asking the pastors to do that. I think that most pastors have several spiritual advisers they turn to to help them discern God's will in circumstances like that, and if they don't, they should.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

bump

 

[Who Me]

The key false word is ' feels'.

Why do people believe that God speaks only through a feeling?

Any pastor who has a measure of intelligence would ask his elders, other pastors he meets with to pray about his ministry.
If others then came back to him with a conviction that he was needed elsewhere then he should start preparing to go.

The next step for him, his wife, his elders to all pray about where.

Why do I write this. Recently one of our church members went as minister to another church.
He had preached there several times and over the last six month the two elders there were praying that God would lead them to a new minister.
One prayed that everyone this man preached, that he would be overcome with emotion. The other, that everytime he came his family would also come.
These things happen every time and they and the church called him to minister there.

The bible say God spoke to Abraham etc, but look at Samuel,not everyone recognises his voice.
That takes faith and experience.