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Why are you Pentecostal?

hawkman

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I wasn't a Christian when my wife with great forethought and trepidation agreed to married me. My wife had been a Christian for a few years. When I was not on the road with a rock band I would attend church with her, and I watched the relationship she had with God and saw the fire of the Holy Spirit burning in her life and she did speak in tongues. I thought while watching her that is the kind of relationship I would like with God but I really had no idea what I was asking for :).

A couple of years into our marriage I finally reached a point that I felt the conviction of the Holy Spirit heavy upon me and I finally made the first step from my pew to the prayer altar at the front of the church. My whole being felt like it was on fire as I took Jesus for my Savior. Then after I knew I was now a Christian, I stood up there at the altar and words were wanting to come out of my mouth that were NOT my words. I was shocked and thought, "What is happening to me?" and I did not let The Holy Spirit have the utterance. Over the next few weeks I came to understand that The Holy Spirit was wanting to speak through me when I was at the altar. At a later church service, anyone with a need went to the altar for prayer and I went and was prayed for and began speaking in tongues.

So, why am I Pentecostal? The Holy Spirit made sure I was.

When another Christian starts talking cessation of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit it is so far removed from my experience with God that I am dumbfounded by their belief.
 
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I wasn't a Christian when my wife with great forethought and trepidation agreed to married me. My wife had been a Christian for a few years. When I was not on the road with a rock band I would attend church with her, and I watched the relationship she had with God and saw the fire of the Holy Spirit burning in her life and she did speak in tongues. I thought while watching her that is the kind of relationship I would like with God but I really had no idea what I was asking for :).

A couple of years into our marriage I finally reached a point that I felt the conviction of the Holy Spirit heavy upon me and I finally made the first step from my pew to the prayer altar at the front of the church. My whole being felt like it was on fire as I took Jesus for my Savior. Then after I knew I was now a Christian, I stood up there at the altar and words were wanting to come out of my mouth that were NOT my words. I was shocked and thought, "What is happening to me?" and I did not let The Holy Spirit have the utterance. Over the next few weeks I came to understand that The Holy Spirit was wanting to speak through me when I was at the altar. At a later church service, anyone with a need went to the altar for prayer and I went and was prayed for and began speaking in tongues.

So, why am I Pentecostal? The Holy Spirit made sure I was.

When another Christian starts talking cessation of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit it is so far removed from my experience with God that I am dumbfounded by their belief.


Beautiful ole brush arbour.

Love it.

May the Lord fill us, His people, with the fire of the Holy Spirit again, as in the days of the outpouring of Pentecost!!!



JLB
 
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I wasn't a Christian when my wife with great forethought and trepidation agreed to married me. My wife had been a Christian for a few years. When I was not on the road with a rock band I would attend church with her, and I watched the relationship she had with God and saw the fire of the Holy Spirit burning in her life and she did speak in tongues. I thought while watching her that is the kind of relationship I would like with God but I really had no idea what I was asking for :).

A couple of years into our marriage I finally reached a point that I felt the conviction of the Holy Spirit heavy upon me and I finally made the first step from my pew to the prayer altar at the front of the church. My whole being felt like it was on fire as I took Jesus for my Savior. Then after I knew I was now a Christian, I stood up there at the altar and words were wanting to come out of my mouth that were NOT my words. I was shocked and thought, "What is happening to me?" and I did not let The Holy Spirit have the utterance. Over the next few weeks I came to understand that The Holy Spirit was wanting to speak through me when I was at the altar. At a later church service, anyone with a need went to the altar for prayer and I went and was prayed for and began speaking in tongues.

So, why am I Pentecostal? The Holy Spirit made sure I was.

When another Christian starts talking cessation of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit it is so far removed from my experience with God that I am dumbfounded by their belief.

I'm Pentecostal not by any decision or training, but because the Living God chose to pour out His Spirit upon me when I still didn't know anything about the Baptism of the Holy Spirit or that there were denominations that taught it and others that taught against it.

I had been part of an AoG campus group, but really didn't know what it was about other than they loved God and loved me. So they were going to a convention in St. Louis, Missouri, and asked if I would like to come with them. I said, "Sure!" cuz it sounded like fun, and it was. That was a fun group of college people. But when I got halfway through the convention the leader asked me and a friend of mine - a Baptist - if we wanted to be baptized in the Holy Spirit. I was like, "If that's what God wants me to have, then I'm all in," and told them that almost nonchalantly. My Baptist friend had reservations, but he agreed to give it a try I guess you could say. So we got a separate conference room, and several men of God gathered around us and laid hands on us and began praying to the Lord. They also encouraged us to speak whatever came to us, and to be willing to let go if we felt the Holy Spirit leading us to speak something out of the ordinary.

Well, I FELT the Holy Spirit welling up, like tangibly. It wasn't some touchy feely emotional thing. I could tangibly feel the Spirit of God welling up, so I just began to speak what I was feeling a leading to, which was praises to God that were still in English, but with a Jewish accent. It seemed silly, but it was submission to what He was leading me to do.

The men kept praying, a little more earnestly, and then all of a sudden the damn broke. I had been speaking under my breath up till that point, and then all of a sudden out came this really LOUD oriental language that sounded like Vietnamese. It was sharp and very expressive and the volume took me by surprise, let alone everyone else in the room, and it was a never ending barrage of words that were towering over everything else. Very forceful and powerful.

My friend was opposite me hearing all this, and when he did his breathing got excited and he was trying to speak like the Spirit was leading him. It was almost like crying almost, as he was struggling to let go of his self-will and allow the Spirit to speak through him. But he couldn't. He was a proud man, and a big man - a lineman for the football team when he first enrolled in the college - and he couldn't bring himself to say or do anything that might be too embarrassing, so he never received. Or maybe the better expression is, he received, but he never let go to allow the Spirit of God to speak through him.

He never did, and basically just fell back into his traditional Baptist beliefs after that, which was a little sad, but he still loved God and still did his best for Him. He just never knew the experience of letting God have full control over him, and it had to do with not having enough humility to allow it.

But that's the story of why I am Pentecostal. I have experienced the power and Presence of God on numerous occasions since then. Not long after my baptism, I would be sitting in college meetings hearing the word of God taught and the tangible Presence of the Lord would descend on me.

Too many other supernatural experiences since then to list, cuz that was almost 40 years ago, but when you have a genuine experience with the Holy Spirit, there is no going back from it. It doesn't matter how many abuses might occur in various other groups or if some go on to give Pentecostalism a bad name in later years, you KNOW you experienced the Presence of God and you know the Baptism is real, so you carry it with you for the rest of your life.

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On a last note, when I was baptized at that convention, I recall that they told us that a speaker was about to start in the conference hall, but when everyone exited the room I suddenly turned and went straight up to my hotel room. I was so moved by the experience that I wanted to be alone with God, and to gather my thoughts. When I got there, I saw my Bible sitting on a table near the window, and I remember opening it and it fell open to where it was talking about the Holy Spirit in Acts, and I said to myself, "Oh. THAT Holy Spirit..." Up until then it had just been like an impersonal force or something that I only read about, but now I had experienced what they had experienced, and the words "Holy Spirit" suddenly meant something so much more. I stood there looking out over the city of St. Louis, and my life would never be the same again.
 

[Why are you Pentecostal?]

Why am I Christian? A combination of luck and desire, the luck being being at a right place at a right time, which is not the lot of everyone. I was about 6 y.o.

Why am I pentecostal? Because of encounter, as above. In my early teens as a lapsed churchian, I was taken into pentecostal circles, and a desire grew for Christian renewal & depth. Eventually I plucked up the courage to take the plunge—it is after all a baptism, and deity does the baptism into itself. I hold the Lewisian line (Silver Chair) that we would not be calling to Aslan, were he not calling to us: synergism. I do not hold that he will drag us through doors we do not systemically desire. But even if not looking for the pentecostal life, if the inner desire is there he might carry some through that door.

Why am I still a pentecostal? This dimension has enriched my Christian life, general life, and having happily placed my hat in many non-pente and anti-pente denominations (all admixtures of virtue & vice, truth & error, for we are human), I have seen no biblical or existential reason to renounce it.
 
I was raised with genuine faith, but without a full knowledge that God wants to guide me and have His presence manifest in my life continuously. I gradually became like the world, since many of my school friends were pagan. I became disgusting until I was in trouble with the Law, expelled from school, and looked down upon by others.

Meanwhile I was still attending church, and participated in some Baptist-type prayer meetings, and read literature that suggested there was more to the Christian life. A best friend became a "Jesus People" person, and I tried to swear off my obvious sins.

I failed until one night at a party around Xmas time I realized that God wanted all of me, or I wouldn't be able to quit my sins. So I leaned over to a close friend and told him, I'm going to follow Jesus. I've never looked back. That was in late 1970.

I was invited with my "Jesus friend" to meetings with other Jesus People, who were connected to a former Lutheran pastor who had been kicked out for "speaking in tongues." We had praise gatherings, and good teaching.

Some tried to get me to speak in tongues, but only eloquent English came out of me. I later spoke in tongues, but thought I was forming my own words. So I quit speaking in tongues, though I believe they are for some people. My wife speaks in tongues.

Still, I quit all of my sins, and was alone except for my Jesus People friends. In the summer I only had the Bible to read, and lost all of my other friends.

When reading the Bible I saw in Acts where we were told that God gives His Spirit to those who obey Him. At that instant I recognized that I was filled with the Spirit. Since then I've tried to keep obeying the Spirit, in order to keep God's Spirit on fire in my life.

I later found Watchman Nee as good reading material, and he spoke of a complete commitment to God. He sort of became my indirect mentor, via his books.

But it hasn't been easy. There have been lots of failures and some disasters. But I'm still walking with God with a great love for His Word, both written and spoken to my heart. Along the way I've been fortunate to benefit from some excellent Christian ministers.

I guess that makes me Pentecostal? I go to an AoG church, and have done so for many years. I've been to other churches--all of them Pentecostal. I guess I have the best fellowship with those who've committed themselves wholly to the Lord?

There's very much more I could say about this spiritual journey. But I'll leave that for some other time, when it is relevant to a particular issue.
 
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I later found Watchman Nee as good reading material, and he spoke of a complete commitment to God. He sort of became my indirect mentor, via his books.

I read Watchman Nee when I first got born again as well, when I was in college, and I also attended an AoG church. The congregations were good back then, and they operated in genuine gifts. Probably depends on the church nowadays. I'm glad you have a good one. :thumbsup2
 
I was saved in a non denominational congregation.

Then i hung out with some calvinists. And they showed me the cathecisms. I didnt understand why they were necessary when we have the Bible. But granted i did learn a few things about the Trinity and how They function

But i kept following one man on line. He wanted to see a miracle of God. A miracle of healing. He searched the world for years. And eventually i believe he got so close to God, that God gave him that blessing of performing healing. So that is why i believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. As well as experiencing a few myself.

In my limited experience, i find that im more into reading scripture without the church traditions being layed on top of the scripture to interpret them for me. Like Augustine who wasnt a fan of a supernatural view of gen 6:4

so i feel like pencecostalism is in the same vein, going back to the way things were. Not just going with how people over the last 2000 years think things should be.
 
I think a good rule of thumb is to just be happy that people are preaching Christ, no matter who they are. I learned that when reading Kenneth Latourette, who wrote a large history of the Church. He was, I believe, a Baptist scholar. But you could not detect any denominational slant in his approach. He seemed genuinely happy for every move of Christianity, whether Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, Separatist, or whatever.

I've tried to model myself after him to some degree. We have to state what we believe, out of love for the individual. I have Mormons living next door. I don't try to start theological battles with any of them, but I focus on what we have in common, even knowing that our spirit is different. I'm just happy they're trying to live out Christian morals, despite their bad theology.

So I've seriously looked at most of the historical controversies in the Christian Church. And I pick and choose what makes the most sense to me. Some truths are critical for Salvation, if a person is genuinely interested in it. Some truths need to be discussed, because we are all a work in progress. I hope this makes sense?

I've always loved Pentecostalism not because I agree with all of the typical doctrinal beliefs it holds to, but rather, because I love the focus on the Holy Spirit and on His power. I love the fact God acts in our world--an enormous Deity who created the universe actually is great enough to peak into your and my little world, and enjoy discourse with us (of a sort).
 
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