Why Have Conservatives Not Stopped The Liberal Revolution That Threatens Their Culture?

[JAG ..]

Is a question asked by Patrick J. Buchanan in his classic work The Death Of The West.

Says Buchanan:
One reason is "The Liberals have captured the institutions where the young
spend most of their waking hours -- MTV and primetime, movies and
magazines, schools and colleges -- the Liberal Revolution is able to shape
the values, beliefs, and attitudes of the young. Artists, actors, playwrights,
song writers, and popular singers are almost all on the other side.

(As for the Conservatives. . . )

Op-ed page commentators and radio hosts (eg Mark Levine) cannot match
this cultural firepower. The arsenals are unequal. Moreover, the entertainment
that the (Liberal) cultural revolution has to offer is far more attractive and
alluring, thus many of the children of traditionalists defect."
__Patrick J. Buchanan, The Death Of The West, pages 201-211

The Death Of The West is an oldie goldie but well worth
reading or re-reading. Its a magnificent conservative
work.

Thoughts?

JAG

 

[tim-from-pa]

Most consider conservatives=Republicans. Of course the answer is RINO. I always jest (disparagingly) that if such people are elected in that they will not challenge the status quo and they will wear fishnets so their liberal overlords can do "whatever" in a hotel room with them. We elected them in between the Obama years and nothing happened. We have that opportunity again in the end of 2022. With things change? I won't hold my breath. So either way we are screwed and things are going downhill.

We talked together over this and on other forums how these are the end times. These times may not happen tomorrow, but they are on the (historical) doorstep, say within a few decades. I would not place ANY faith in human government to solve what's going on now, COVID, Ukraine, gas shortage or whatever. In all cases they will convolute it to benefit themselves and try to keep people under their thumbs.

BTW I hope you and yours are doing well these days. Come over to our other forum and talk some more. We want to hear from you. It's getting boring with just Kriss and me. Well, she's not boring, but I mean we are the only two talking these days on her forum. LOL

 

[Exeter]

Is a question asked by Patrick J. Buchanan in his classic work The Death Of The West.

Says Buchanan:
One reason is "The Liberals have captured the institutions where the young
spend most of their waking hours -- MTV and primetime, movies and
magazines, schools and colleges -- the Liberal Revolution is able to shape
the values, beliefs, and attitudes of the young. Artists, actors, playwrights,
song writers, and popular singers are almost all on the other side.

(As for the Conservatives. . . )

Op-ed page commentators and radio hosts (eg Mark Levine) cannot match
this cultural firepower. The arsenals are unequal. Moreover, the entertainment
that the (Liberal) cultural revolution has to offer is far more attractive and
alluring, thus many of the children of traditionalists defect."
__Patrick J. Buchanan, The Death Of The West, pages 201-211

The Death Of The West is an oldie goldie but well worth
reading or re-reading. Its a magnificent conservative
work.

Thoughts?

JAG

Simple answer to the question in the thread title, conservatives have not stopped the liberal revolution because it is the work of mystery Babylon the Great, Mother of harlots and abominations of the earth.

I am a reader of the works of Josephus and it occurs to me to parallel current cultural paradigm shifts with the Hellenisation of the Jews. There is a similar dynamic so that friction, conflict, separation, diversity, and dialogue are grappelled with on a case by case basis as well as a national and international level.

Quote from Wkpd: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenization

The Hellenistic Seleucid and Ptolemaic kingdoms that formed after Alexander's death were particularly relevant to the history of Judaism. Located between the two kingdoms, Judea experienced long periods of warfare and instability.[16] Judea fell under Seleucid control in 198 BC. By the time Antiochus IV Epiphanes became king of Judea in 175 BC, Jerusalem was already somewhat Hellenized. In 170 BC, both claimants to the High Priesthood, Jason and Menelaus, bore Greek names. Jason had established institutions of Greek education and in later years Jewish culture started to be suppressed including forbidding circumcision and observance of the Sabbath.[17]

 

[JAG ..]

BTW I hope you and yours are doing well these days. Come over to our other forum and talk some more. We want to hear from you. It's getting boring with just Kriss and me. Well, she's not boring, but I mean we are the only two talking these days on her forum. LOL

Thank you. Same to you.

Er, what "other forum"?

Best Regards,

JAG

 

[jasonc]

You can't legislate morality .

If that worked ,why the cross?

 

[jasonc]

The world is always doing evil .it never changed from the first sin by Adam.

I'm amil .the word is evil always hated God

 

[tim-from-pa]

Thank you. Same to you.

Er, what "other forum"?

Best Regards,

JAG

Thank you. Same to you.

Er, what "other forum"?

Best Regards,

JAG

I PM'ed you.

 

[Who Me]

Moreover, the entertainment
that the (Liberal) cultural revolution has to offer is far more attractive and
alluring, t

We All find sin attractive.

We are all ashamed of Jesus.

 

[Milk-Drops]

Is a question asked by Patrick J. Buchanan in his classic work The Death Of The West.

Says Buchanan:
One reason is "The Liberals have captured the institutions where the young
spend most of their waking hours -- MTV and primetime, movies and
magazines, schools and colleges -- the Liberal Revolution is able to shape
the values, beliefs, and attitudes of the young. Artists, actors, playwrights,
song writers, and popular singers are almost all on the other side.

(As for the Conservatives. . . )

Op-ed page commentators and radio hosts (eg Mark Levine) cannot match
this cultural firepower. The arsenals are unequal. Moreover, the entertainment
that the (Liberal) cultural revolution has to offer is far more attractive and
alluring, thus many of the children of traditionalists defect."
__Patrick J. Buchanan, The Death Of The West, pages 201-211

The Death Of The West is an oldie goldie but well worth
reading or re-reading. Its a magnificent conservative
work.

Thoughts?

JAG

Oh, it's the book about how immigrants destroy the US and we need to return to a white majority super power.

The reason Buchanan projects that the west is dieing, is because what he values as the west (being white European) is a narrow view. It focuses way to much on projecting all the failings on others, instead of just doing what the Bible always said, tend your own fruits because the world will always do what it do.

 

[Milk-Drops]

Oh, plus Buchanan also thinks there is a Jewish Cabal that is trying to destroy the US for.....some reason. A lot of the Soros bad and Israle bad claims that occasionally stir up and out of some republican candidates can be traced back to him.

 

[Milk-Drops]

I had read this book when I was younger and still in my Republican phase, I'm relistening to the audiobook on YouTube and have had to stop it multiple times to laugh.

The author will take large works, distil them down to a sentence, then jump around spans of hundreds of years to make a narrative.

If you are familiar with the authors Buchanan mentions, it's amazing how out of context he takes their claims.

Buchanan makes claims and predictions that should have been carried out by 2010, like white people becoming a minority in the US and Eruope. They have not. Also Buchanan likes to ignore major factors about why China, and The USSR were horrible to live under Stalin and Mao. Taking the very things that devolved those countries into dictatorships, and criticizing what drug them out of third world feudalism nations.


Sorry, my actual reading knowledge and history is showing.

 

[JAG ..]

I PM'ed you.

Thank you for your time, but you have me mixed up with
somebody else. I have no idea who you are or who Kriss is,
and I have never registered here on this forum other than as
JAG.

Best Regards.

JAG


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[Exeter]

Thank you for your time, but you have me mixed up with
somebody else. I have no idea who you are or who Kriss is,
and I have never registered here on this forum other than as
JAG.

Best Regards.

JAG``

There doesn't seem to be an established protocol around users being on multiple forums posting identical threads simultaneously on each of them. I usually don't draw atention to it. Sufficient to say this is not the only forum currently featuring this thread and user name.

Not a problem.

 

[JAG ..]

Here is another quote from Buchanan that I wanted to put in this thread.

"Americans who look upon this cultural revolution as politics-as-usual
do not understand it. It means to make an end of the country we love.
It cannot be appeased. Its relentless, reckless use of terms like
extremist, sexist, racist, homophobe, nativist, xenophobe, fascist,
and Nazi testifies to how seriously it takes the struggle and how it
views those who resist. For the true believers in the revolution the
Right is not just wrong, the Right is evil."__Patrick J. Buchanan,
The Death Of The West, page 215

Observation: The list of SINS and EVIL that the Donk Party supports
either directly or indirectly is HUGE-ENORMOUS and growing. Fact.

JAG

 

[JAG ..]

I had read this book when I was younger and still in my Republican phase, I'm relistening to the audiobook on YouTube and have had to stop it multiple times to laugh.

The author will take large works, distil them down to a sentence, then jump around spans of hundreds of years to make a narrative.

If you are familiar with the authors Buchanan mentions, it's amazing how out of context he takes their claims.

Buchanan makes claims and predictions that should have been carried out by 2010, like white people becoming a minority in the US and Eruope. They have not. Also Buchanan likes to ignore major factors about why China, and The USSR were horrible to live under Stalin and Mao. Taking the very things that devolved those countries into dictatorships, and criticizing what drug them out of third world feudalism nations.


Sorry, my actual reading knowledge and history is showing.

Here is another quote from Buchanan I wanted to put into this thread:

"A new generation has grown up for whom the cultural revolution is not a
revolution at all, but the culture they were born into and have known all
their lives. Public homosexuality, pornography, abortion, trash talk on TV
and in movies, and filthy lyrics in popular music have all been around since
before they can remember. No big deal. Many have come to accept the
axioms of modernity about how wicked the old America was It is the
traditional culture they find odd. They have passed through the schools
and universities, consumed the fare, and come to believe what they were
taught about the country's old heroes and history. 'We will steal your
children', the sixties radicals howled at Middle America. They did."
__Patrick J. Buchanan, The Death Of The West, page 214

JAG

 

[Milk-Drops]

Here is another quote from Buchanan that I wanted to put in this thread.

"Americans who look upon this cultural revolution as politics-as-usual
do not understand it. It means to make an end of the country we love.
It cannot be appeased. Its relentless, reckless use of terms like
extremist, sexist, racist, homophobe, nativist, xenophobe, fascist,
and Nazi testifies to how seriously it takes the struggle and how it
views those who resist. For the true believers in the revolution the
Right is not just wrong, the Right is evil."__Patrick J. Buchanan,
The Death Of The West, page 215

Observation: The list of SINS and EVIL that the Donk Party supports
either directly or indirectly is HUGE-ENORMOUS and growing. Fact.

JAG

Yeah, it's easy if you literally make up your enemy, claim their dogma is everything that sounds scary to the reader, then take random comments from people from several different backgrounds, ideologies, time periods, etc and claim that it's all related because you assume your readers won't look up anything they are claiming.



That's like taking random quotes from evil people who claimed to be Christian and claiming all Christians think like them.

 

[Milk-Drops]

Here is another quote from Buchanan I wanted to put into this thread:

"A new generation has grown up for whom the cultural revolution is not a
revolution at all, but the culture they were born into and have known all
their lives. Public homosexuality, pornography, abortion, trash talk on TV
and in movies, and filthy lyrics in popular music have all been around since
before they can remember. No big deal. Many have come to accept the
axioms of modernity about how wicked the old America was It is the
traditional culture they find odd. They have passed through the schools
and universities, consumed the fare, and come to believe what they were
taught about the country's old heroes and history. 'We will steal your
children', the sixties radicals howled at Middle America. They did."
__Patrick J. Buchanan, The Death Of The West, page 214

JAG

Yeah, this is all from chapter 3. Where The author literally invents the enemy out of whole cloth.


Hey why aren't you quoting the introduction or first chapter where Buchanan blames the US's failures on all the non white people living here and in Europe?

You aren't quoting the parts about how it was a travesty to end slavery. It's bad that women are allowed to go to college. That we don't stone gay people anymore.

Maybe he gets called a bigot, because he is a bigot and invented a spurious "revolution" because he can't handle not being able to subjugate non whites, non straight, women, the disabled, and people of other religions. Etc.

 

[evenifigoalone]

Oh, it's the book about how immigrants destroy the US and we need to return to a white majority super power.

Oh. Woooooof.

 

[Milk-Drops]

Oh. Woooooof.

YeH, the book is on YouTube as an audiobook. The introduction get right to the point about how the US and Europe are being invaded by the third world. The first chapter is about how non whites are destroying society and how all of Europe's white pioulation is under attack and disappearing.

Chapter 2 is about how women and the gays are bad because they aren't making more white babies and women are having abortions and going to college.

Chapter 3 is where it turns into a rant where the author literally just starts making up rules all non conservatives follow and how it's all about destroying Jesus.


This is all because of the secret Jewish cabal of course. The guy is a well know anti smite and has spoken at white supremesist/nationalist gatherings.

 

[JLB]

Here is another quote from Buchanan that I wanted to put in this thread.

"Americans who look upon this cultural revolution as politics-as-usual
do not understand it. It means to make an end of the country we love.
It cannot be appeased. Its relentless, reckless use of terms like
extremist, sexist, racist, homophobe, nativist, xenophobe, fascist,
and Nazi testifies to how seriously it takes the struggle and how it
views those who resist. For the true believers in the revolution the
Right is not just wrong, the Right is evil."__Patrick J. Buchanan,
The Death Of The West, page 215

Observation: The list of SINS and EVIL that the Donk Party supports
either directly or indirectly is HUGE-ENORMOUS and growing. Fact.

JAG

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.
Romans 1:28-32

• knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

Notice this verse says, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.


Honestly, from what I have seen over the past few years, especially when Obama was President, the left seems to be the group that represents everything sinful and perverted.




JLB