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Why the Arab world hates America

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I know this article is an old one but,
the crux of it still stands true!




Why the Arab world hates America
By Dennis Prager

January 15, 2003

Why is America hated in the Arab world?

According to leftists and to Arab and Islamic spokesmen, the reasons are: American support for non-democratic regimes in the Arab world -- such as in Egypt and Saudi Arabia -- and because America supports Israel.

Before positing what I believe to be the reasons, let's answer these two arguments.

The argument that America is hated by Arabs because it supports non-democratic regimes in the Arab world would be regarded as hilarious were it not believed by so many gullible people in the West.

The argument presupposes that what the Arabs (and Muslims elsewhere) who hate America want are open and free societies. But there is not a shred of evidence to support this. Is there any movement for pluralism, openness and democracy among those who hate America? Of course not. The Arab governments most opposed to America and which America therefore least influences -- Sudan, Syria, Iraq, Libya -- have less freedom than the corrupt Arab regimes that America does support. As corrupt and repressive as the Egyptian government is, Egypt is free compared to the aforementioned countries.

And if the United States ceased to pour billions of dollars a year into Egypt and the Mubarak dictatorship then fell, what would supplant it? Democracy? Openness? Pluralism? Freedom of speech?

We all know the answer. In every Arab country, a corrupt regime supported by America would be supplanted by a Taliban-type Islamic/fascist regime.

So let's call this argument what it is -- a lie. Overwhelmingly, the Arabs who hate us don't want a free and open society; they want an Islamic totalitarian one. American influence in the Arab world prevents our haters there from imposing their vicious expression of Islam, not from establishing Jeffersonian democracy.

As for the second argument, yes, our support for Israel's security further inflames the hatred of those Arabs (and Muslims elsewhere) who hate us. But why do they hate Israel? Why are they so obsessed with a tiny state in a part of the Arab and Islamic world that they utterly ignored until Jews made a civilization there?

Because America's and Israel's haters are ethnic and religious haters on a magnitude not seen since the Nazis. They loathe everything Israel (and its American supporter) represents -- freedom, democracy, openness, individual autonomy, freedom of religion, pluralism, women's equality and sexual freedom. They want Israel dead. Gone. Exterminated. They say so publicly, and they say so in polls. Yet, the educated fools and the Israel- and America-haters of the West ignore all this and blame Israel for trying to exist and America for enabling it to do so.

If America abandoned Israel, our Arab and Muslim haters would rejoice, but they would surely not stop hating us. Not one of them. They would only conclude that their terror worked, and that America will give in when the threats are great enough. One proof? Most Muslims living in Europe, which has abandoned Israel, continue to loathe Europe. Europe's abandonment of Israel has only convinced them -- for good reason -- that Europe has lost its moral fiber and is ripe for an Islamic takeover.

Arab and other Muslims who hate America do so:

Because America alone (and the little America in the Middle East, Israel) prevents the expansion of Islamic rule.

Because expansionist totalitarian movements, whether Soviet communism or radical Islam, always hate free societies, and America is the strongest free society.

Because America is not only strong, it is religious (as opposed to Europe, which is weak and irreligious).

Because America is not only Christian; it is Judeo-Christian, the two religions the Islamists need to overcome to expand globally.

The greatest problem confronting America is not that people who loathe freedom loathe us. Indeed, it is to America's enduring credit that it is hated by Islamists. Our great problem is that so many in our country do not understand that those who loathe liberty loathe America. For this reason, the battle for America's future is at home more than it is in Iraq or Afghanistan or in al Qaeda's caves.

We talk a great deal about winning Arabs' and Muslims' minds and hearts. Yet, we have yet to win all Americans' minds and hearts. For confirmation, just visit your local university.


http://www.townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/printdp20030115.shtml

©2003 Creators Syndicate, Inc.
 
I believe that the reasons that some Arabs hate America are the same ones that everyone else that hates America does.

Claiming to be the Godliest of nations yet openly promoting vile and wicked perversions!

Reminds me of Israel of old!
 
evanman said:
I believe that the reasons that some Arabs hate America are the same ones that everyone else that hates America does.

Claiming to be the Godliest of nations yet openly promoting vile and wicked perversions!

Reminds me of Israel of old!

Exactly.

Few like to recognize the severity of their sins and the cesspool of filthy sin in which they live.

America a godly nation? What a laugh.

But it is not surprising given the foundation upon which America was founded - "We declare..." That's it!!! We just need to "declare" that we are a holy and godly nation and it will be so. We do not need God to justify us, that is, judge whether or not we are a righteous godly nation. We will just declare it. We will justify ourselves. And not only so, we shall declare that God is with us more than anyone else....

There.

God blesses America cause we declared it.

In God we trust cuz we said so. Yep.

... even if our America is one of the main promoters of sinful things in the entire world.... abortion.... murder.... homosexuality.... well you know how big the list is... we just won't confess it and admit it... no let us instead give ourselves a big pat on the back and declare how righteous we are in the sight of God.... yes that's it. We declare.
 
I am an American and I don't stand for those negative things you both wrote about America and it's people!


Speak for yourselves, and don't include using the example of it being "the mass of the people in America" as being what you say is so! YOur assumptions are FALSE! No one nation is like you make it out to be!
There are good and not so good in every nation! In every country!
This world is a mixed bag of people! They are not all concentrated into America! Like you so badly expressed!


Just because a minority of people are so liberal and ungoldy in their behaviors, and some people then get the false impression that the whole of American is like those minority of negative people, doesn't give you the right to dis like you did! Implying that the whole of America is like that!

Most Christians that voted in this past election are NOT what you have portrayed as the Average American citizen! and even the ones that didn't vote! And for that matter, even a whole lot of non-Christians are not as bad as you make Americans out to be!

Isn't it amazing how a minority of ill-reputed people can spoil the impression "some" people have of a whole populous!
Not all Muslims are terrorists!
And not all Americans are disgusting like you portrayed them to be!

I am appalled at your biased single minded opinions!

:-?
 
I am american and america sucks.

Face it, we are the strongest, richest country in the world, and we cant do anything but discriminate against ourselves, wage stupid wars to kill ourselves. I can see why no one likes america. Personally, if i wasnt a quitter, i would move to canada, or new zealand, or half of europe, where they have a free democracy.

WHy is america one of the few countrys NOT to sign enviromental agreements? why do we still use landmines and other things. Why do we torture prisoners, and discriminate against minorites. Honestly, america stinks.
 
true, I am a minority in america. SO i guess my opinions of america shoudlnt count. I mean, after all, it is hte home of the free :sad

lol anywho. I know a few christians that dont like america (but 1 happens to be interracial so i cant counthim i guess)
 
huj05 said:
true, I am a minority in america. SO i guess my opinions of america shoudlnt count. I mean, after all, it is hte home of the free :sad

lol anywho. I know a few christians that dont like america (but 1 happens to be interracial so i cant counthim i guess)

When I wrote indicating that the voice of the minority speaks, I meant it in regard to moral values that most Americans stand for. Not in any way did I mean for you to take it as a kind of prejudice against any race!

This whole topic is about MORAL VALUES! And How Arabs Hate America because of what they stand for from a religious perspective and the liberty and morality that America stands for!

If you speak against the majority of Americans in that sense of the moral values they stand for, then I say, Yes, you are a minority in that sense! And in that sense alone!

Please don't infer something into a message that was never there in the first place!

:-?
 
It may anger some to state what I did, however this is the impression we get from America itslef.

We Brits fair no better.

Britain prided herself on being Christian, however we are more Pagan and antichristian than we like to portray.

I am sure that there are good Americans out there, it's just that we get mixed messages.

America prides itself on being a "Christian" nation, yet fills the airwaves with porn, violence, False Televangelism. It reminds me of Israel of old.

You know how God dealt with her.
 
Other countries and peoples hatred of the US comes from their lack of what we have and will not give up.

Freedoms and rights, wealth and prosperity to name a few.

The fanatic muslim terrorists have many a time proclaimed that they would stop their jihawds if america went muslim. They hate america because america is not muslim!

I think every other country in the world hates america to some extent, mainly because they lack as much freedom, prosperity, etc, that we have. Not to mention because we are mainly conservative(Hey when you're right about something, people hate you! :lol: )

Really, it is just the green-eyed monster on a global scale.
 
Relic said:
huj05 said:
true, I am a minority in america. SO i guess my opinions of america shoudlnt count. I mean, after all, it is hte home of the free :sad

lol anywho. I know a few christians that dont like america (but 1 happens to be interracial so i cant counthim i guess)

When I wrote indicating that the voice of the minority speaks, I meant it in regard to moral values that most Americans stand for. Not in any way did I mean for you to take it as a kind of prejudice against any race!

This whole topic is about MORAL VALUES! And How Arabs Hate America because of what they stand for from a religious perspective and the liberty and morality that America stands for!

If you speak against the majority of Americans in that sense of the moral values they stand for, then I say, Yes, you are a minority in that sense! And in that sense alone!

Please don't infer something into a message that was never there in the first place!

:-?

my bad, saw it as racial, not as moral segregation. woops. :P

anywho, I have never heard of a muslim saying that ithey would stop hating america if they converted. what i hear is that if we stop supporting israel, then they wont screw with us.

hmm, as i think about it, I am sorta a minority in america.. I am a liberal (mainly) so :-/

People in new zealand, and canada, and switzerland have equal or higher standards of living, and sitll hate america. Why? ask one. I lived in switzerland for a month, with a familly, and they dont like america cuz america thinks it runs the world.
my gay uncle (yes he is gay, and i still love him) lives in canada (to escape discrimination in america) and he loves it there, and is glad canada doesnt stick into things it shouldnt.
DOnt really have a good example for NZ, but i do know they have a pretty good standard of living (besides the natives that still inhabit remote parts because, unlike americans, we didnt take up genocide.)
 
lol :P see , there is this thing.

america was founded for freedom. And when the brits tried to take it back, we fought, and won. when the southerners wnated to prohibit freedoms, we fought and won, when they wanted to segregate, we fought and won.

If you think america is a country of quitters, then, i feel bad for you.

You can always re-educate a moron, but once someone quits....


BTW. i do think that after i spend some college years protesting bush and his stupid policys, and then note that the south wants another redneck for president, I will move abroad, where i can continue to fight for democracy in the usa, but i dont have to deal with that crap. Basically like all of us who donated to charity. We dont use the money, someone else does.


if onyl i remembered the site wher ethousands of ppl sent in pics of themselves and signs sayng "im sorry world" after bush was elected

my poersonal fav wa a chick holding a map of florida and saying

"what do you expect out of a state that looks like a wang"
 
The bottom line is that true followers of Christ do not hate anyone. But non-Christians do hate because they do not understand forgiveness. And that is why there is so much war in the world.
 
:-p does that mean that you dont accept those who sin, aka homosexuals?
 
huj05 said:
:-p does that mean that you dont accept those who sin, aka homosexuals?


Hi there!

:-D


There is a big difference between accepting people where they are and accepting the sins of their life or lifestyle. When you do go to college, your thinking will be broadened and you will probably get a better understanding of all mankind.


You will get a real understanding of the American dollar at work... paying all those tuition bills on pell grants, Stafford loans, Perkins loans... and the ability to extend those re-payments back over ten years time.


When you are living in Europe, don't forget to pay back Uncle Sam for the education that he will have given you.


~serapha~
 
Heidi said:
The bottom line is that true followers of Christ do not hate anyone. But non-Christians do hate because they do not understand forgiveness. And that is why there is so much war in the world.
Sounds like the no true scotsman fallacy.

The world wars were fought by one Christian nation attacking other Christian nations. It is hard to teach love and forgiveness when there are passages in the Bible that encourage war and killing and hatred like:

Matthew 10:34-36
"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law -- a man's enemies will be the members of his own household."

Psalm 137:8-9
"O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones."

1 Samuel 15:3
"Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass."

Quath
 
Surely you jest Quath? Nazi Germany was anything but a Christian nation. And your Scriptural "support," you should know better by now that taking verses out of context can lead to meanings not even implied by the text. True Christians are not to hate anyone.
 
Free said:
Surely you jest Quath? Nazi Germany was anything but a Christian nation. And your Scriptural "support," you should know better by now that taking verses out of context can lead to meanings not even implied by the text. True Christians are not to hate anyone.
What is a true Christian? It sounds like you are defining after the fact that anyone that hates is not a Christian.

That would be like me saying that a true atheist never goes to jail. It would just be me redefining the term so I can say that we are morally superior to the Christians since there are Christians in jail. But that is the essense of the "no true scotsman fallacy."

Germany was a Christian nation. Hitler spoke in great praises about it. The people followed him to kill the Christ killer (Jews). It is very easy to get hatred and killing and to be a Christian at the same time. Wiping out the Indians and slavery were considered Christian activities of the time period. The Crusade was a Christian war. The Inquisition was more Christian killing.

These people believed they followed the Bible and would get their place in heaven. They believed they followed Jesus as best as tthey knew how. The Bible supports any act of violence if you look in the Old Testament. Hitler is in no way any different than Joshua. They both claimed to kill their neighbor for God. If you believe the OT is true, then there Hitler is just as evil as Joshua was. The only question is whether he had God's ear or not.

Quath
 
serapha said:
huj05 said:
:-p does that mean that you dont accept those who sin, aka homosexuals?


Hi there!

:-D


There is a big difference between accepting people where they are and accepting the sins of their life or lifestyle. When you do go to college, your thinking will be broadened and you will probably get a better understanding of all mankind.


You will get a real understanding of the American dollar at work... paying all those tuition bills on pell grants, Stafford loans, Perkins loans... and the ability to extend those re-payments back over ten years time.


When you are living in Europe, don't forget to pay back Uncle Sam for the education that he will have given you.


~serapha~

just because you dont agree with how they lead their life, doesnt mean that you should try to take away their freedoms, and impose sanctions against what they can or cnat do.

I have an understanding of an "american dollar" as it slowly creeps sllower to heck.
I have already taken a year of college, and i am a senior.
At the end of my senior year, i will have a bachelors in networking(comptuer science)
I am unsure of what other country to move to atm, alot seem better because they can accept individuals for who they are, and not what some book says they should be.
It was all free! (about 80 bucks actually, but close enough)

also, I am basically a hippie senior (- the laziness and the drugs) all i truly care about is my education, good music, and freedom for all. COllege is a place to be free, so all i will do is continue my efforts to get others to accept who i am, or who others are.
 
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