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WILL HISTORY REPEAT ITSELF?

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WILL HISTORY REPEAT ITSELF?

For more than four years Israel has been plagued by violence, but the death of Yasser Arafat and the election of a new Palestinian leader has - at least for some - brought a sense of cautious optimism to a seemingly hopeless situation. The Israelis and the Palestinians have agreed to negotiate and both sides claim they are willing to compromise, yet most observers remain skeptical. The ceasefire agreement reached last week between Abbas and Sharon is good news, but many question how long it can last. Hamas has already defied the agreement by firing 30 mortars and 26 rockets at two Israeli settlements in southern Gaza, which prompted the newly-elected Mahmoud Abbas to dismiss 20 of his top security advisors.

There are some who believe Abbas will put an end to the violence. His victory in last month's elections has even been called "a mandate for peace with Israel." However if you are familiar with the history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict the outcome of the election and the current ceasefire agreement should not come as a surprise, nor should they garner much hope for a peaceful end to the conflict. The Palestinians say they want peace, but on what terms? In 2000, Yasser Arafat and then-Israeli leader Ehud Barak agreed to meet at Camp David in a last ditch effort by President Clinton to reach a settlement. Despite considerable concessions by Barak the negotiations fell apart, and on September 29, 2000 violence erupted and the current Palestinian Intifada (Arabic for "uprising") began.

So what is different this time? The answer: very little. Some may have high hopes for Abbas, but his terms for the establishment of a Palestinian state are no different than those of his predecessor. He continues to demand the complete withdrawal of Israel from all the occupied areas back to the 1967 border, the dismantling of all Israeli settlements in the West Bank and Gaza, a Palestinian capitol in east Jerusalem, and the right of return for all Palestinian refugees. Abbas has also called for the removal of Israeli roadblocks, the release of some 8,000 Palestinians being detained in Israeli jails and military prisons, and the dismantling of the controversial barrier wall.

For most Westerners it is difficult to understand why the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has continued for so long or why it has resulted in so much violence. The fundamental problem is that the Palestinian leadership has ardently resisted making any concessions toward Israel and have maintained an all-or-nothing approach to peace negotiations. Too few Palestinians truly desire peace. Palestinian children are consistently taught in school to hate Israel. Most Arab nations have yet to officially recognize the right of Israel to exist, and many Muslim groups, like Hamas and Hezbollah, will not allow peace unless it comes in the form of Israel's destruction
 
There are those on both sides of the Jew/arab divide that teach hatred of one another.

We have seen the assault on an arab lady by jewish children and the stone throwing of jews by arab children.

We also see both Arabs and Jews being manipulated by hatred.

The only answer to the division and animosity between these is the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Untill both sides turn to Christ true peace is unobtainable.

Not all Jews in israel and around the world are supportive of Zionism and the Zionist movement, just as not all arabs are supportive of the Palestinian movement.

In fact many supposed supporters of the Palestinian cause do not really care about Palestine or palestinians, they simply want to destroy all jews and Palestine is a convenient hook upon which they hang their banners.

Hammas, Hezbollah, and other similar groups are simply dangerous cults.

Those that seek to manipulate and destroy will themselves be destroyed.

The Jewish people do have a right to be in that land, just as do non-Jews. this is the Law and the Prophets.
 
evanman said:
There are those on both sides of the Jew/arab divide that teach hatred of one another.

We have seen the assault on an arab lady by jewish children and the stone throwing of jews by arab children.

We also see both Arabs and Jews being manipulated by hatred.

The only answer to the division and animosity between these is the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Untill both sides turn to Christ true peace is unobtainable.

Not all Jews in israel and around the world are supportive of Zionism and the Zionist movement, just as not all arabs are supportive of the Palestinian movement.

In fact many supposed supporters of the Palestinian cause do not really care about Palestine or palestinians, they simply want to destroy all jews and Palestine is a convenient hook upon which they hang their banners.

Hammas, Hezbollah, and other similar groups are simply dangerous cults.

Those that seek to manipulate and destroy will themselves be destroyed.

The Jewish people do have a right to be in that land, just as do non-Jews. this is the Law and the Prophets.


Shalom my friend I think you have missed the point but never mind you will get it one day and this is from a Christian site not a Jewish site but nice try and I should know that not all is fair in love and war but that doesn't change the fact that my people are being killed by this so-called peace process one day it will come to the USA and you will se how it is to live in everyday terror
Shalom and love in the name of YESHUA (JESUS) in hebrew and we will have to choose side one day either our one the LORDS side or your one satans side and yes I know that your a devoted Christian.

chana
 
YESHUA said:
WILL HISTORY REPEAT ITSELF?

For more than four years Israel has been plagued by violence, but the death of Yasser Arafat and the election of a new Palestinian leader has - at least for some - brought a sense of cautious optimism to a seemingly hopeless situation. The Israelis and the Palestinians have agreed to negotiate and both sides claim they are willing to compromise, yet most observers remain skeptical. The ceasefire agreement reached last week between Abbas and Sharon is good news, but many question how long it can last. Hamas has already defied the agreement by firing 30 mortars and 26 rockets at two Israeli settlements in southern Gaza, which prompted the newly-elected Mahmoud Abbas to dismiss 20 of his top security advisors.

There are some who believe Abbas will put an end to the violence. His victory in last month's elections has even been called "a mandate for peace with Israel." However if you are familiar with the history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict the outcome of the election and the current ceasefire agreement should not come as a surprise, nor should they garner much hope for a peaceful end to the conflict. The Palestinians say they want peace, but on what terms? In 2000, Yasser Arafat and then-Israeli leader Ehud Barak agreed to meet at Camp David in a last ditch effort by President Clinton to reach a settlement. Despite considerable concessions by Barak the negotiations fell apart, and on September 29, 2000 violence erupted and the current Palestinian Intifada (Arabic for "uprising") began.

So what is different this time? The answer: very little. Some may have high hopes for Abbas, but his terms for the establishment of a Palestinian state are no different than those of his predecessor. He continues to demand the complete withdrawal of Israel from all the occupied areas back to the 1967 border, the dismantling of all Israeli settlements in the West Bank and Gaza, a Palestinian capitol in east Jerusalem, and the right of return for all Palestinian refugees. Abbas has also called for the removal of Israeli roadblocks, the release of some 8,000 Palestinians being detained in Israeli jails and military prisons, and the dismantling of the controversial barrier wall.

For most Westerners it is difficult to understand why the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has continued for so long or why it has resulted in so much violence. The fundamental problem is that the Palestinian leadership has ardently resisted making any concessions toward Israel and have maintained an all-or-nothing approach to peace negotiations. Too few Palestinians truly desire peace. Palestinian children are consistently taught in school to hate Israel. Most Arab nations have yet to officially recognize the right of Israel to exist, and many Muslim groups, like Hamas and Hezbollah, will not allow peace unless it comes in the form of Israel's destruction


For more than 57 years Palestine has been plagued by violence.

Israel wasn't exist before the unfortunate belfore promise

It's not legal country
Israel came and occupied Palestine and Israeli occupation army killed men women children till now they have big crimes against human kind, daily they killing children women, cutting trees, destroying homes………
Thousands Palestinian were buried under the rubble of houses's destroyed

I am a Palestinian, I haven't even seen Palestine, my parents were witness on Israeli crimes they drove them out of their homes and out of Palestine they have seen Israeli murders, rapes, destroying ……….

Yes we haven’t recognize the right of Israel to exist, because it’s illegal country established by killing and murders the Palestinian.

That’s why Israeli-Palestinian conflict has continued for so long
I don’t think the new leader will make any change, Because the killing , and the murders is in Israeli blood.
 
Muhsen said:
YESHUA said:
WILL HISTORY REPEAT ITSELF?

For more than four years Israel has been plagued by violence, but the death of Yasser Arafat and the election of a new Palestinian leader has - at least for some - brought a sense of cautious optimism to a seemingly hopeless situation. The Israelis and the Palestinians have agreed to negotiate and both sides claim they are willing to compromise, yet most observers remain skeptical. The ceasefire agreement reached last week between Abbas and Sharon is good news, but many question how long it can last. Hamas has already defied the agreement by firing 30 mortars and 26 rockets at two Israeli settlements in southern Gaza, which prompted the newly-elected Mahmoud Abbas to dismiss 20 of his top security advisors.

There are some who believe Abbas will put an end to the violence. His victory in last month's elections has even been called "a mandate for peace with Israel." However if you are familiar with the history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict the outcome of the election and the current ceasefire agreement should not come as a surprise, nor should they garner much hope for a peaceful end to the conflict. The Palestinians say they want peace, but on what terms? In 2000, Yasser Arafat and then-Israeli leader Ehud Barak agreed to meet at Camp David in a last ditch effort by President Clinton to reach a settlement. Despite considerable concessions by Barak the negotiations fell apart, and on September 29, 2000 violence erupted and the current Palestinian Intifada (Arabic for "uprising") began.

So what is different this time? The answer: very little. Some may have high hopes for Abbas, but his terms for the establishment of a Palestinian state are no different than those of his predecessor. He continues to demand the complete withdrawal of Israel from all the occupied areas back to the 1967 border, the dismantling of all Israeli settlements in the West Bank and Gaza, a Palestinian capitol in east Jerusalem, and the right of return for all Palestinian refugees. Abbas has also called for the removal of Israeli roadblocks, the release of some 8,000 Palestinians being detained in Israeli jails and military prisons, and the dismantling of the controversial barrier wall.

For most Westerners it is difficult to understand why the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has continued for so long or why it has resulted in so much violence. The fundamental problem is that the Palestinian leadership has ardently resisted making any concessions toward Israel and have maintained an all-or-nothing approach to peace negotiations. Too few Palestinians truly desire peace. Palestinian children are consistently taught in school to hate Israel. Most Arab nations have yet to officially recognize the right of Israel to exist, and many Muslim groups, like Hamas and Hezbollah, will not allow peace unless it comes in the form of Israel's destruction


For more than 57 years Palestine has been plagued by violence.

Israel wasn't exist before the unfortunate belfore promise

It's not legal country
Israel came and occupied Palestine and Israeli occupation army killed men women children till now they have big crimes against human kind, daily they killing children women, cutting trees, destroying homes………
Thousands Palestinian were buried under the rubble of houses's destroyed

I am a Palestinian, I haven't even seen Palestine, my parents were witness on Israeli crimes they drove them out of their homes and out of Palestine they have seen Israeli murders, rapes, destroying ……….

Yes we haven’t recognize the right of Israel to exist, because it’s illegal country established by killing and murders the Palestinian.

That’s why Israeli-Palestinian conflict has continued for so long
I don’t think the new leader will make any change, Because the killing , and the murders is in Israeli blood.

You just can't help it can you?
but what ever you say Israel is here to stay and as long as there is a GOD in heaven who by the way love not only HIS people the Jews who still is HIS chosen ones, not all have that believe, but never the less thats the way it is, and nothing you say or do can change that but the HOLY ONE OF YISRAEL is capable of loving all who seek HIM with an earnest heart and guess what you don't have to be a Jew to be a child of THE HOLY ONE OF YISRAEL just be an earnest seeker and you will find YESHUA I did and so can you.
I know that we don't se eye to eye now but one day we will and until then may GOD bless you and your family in all you do except in killing my people.
Shalom and love in the name of YESHUA
chana
 
Muhsen, my heart goes out to you. I'm very sorry for any horrors your parents may have been a witness to or victim of. Horrible atrocities were committed preceding the birth of the nation of Israel there to "Muslim and Christian natives" alike.

I have to disagree with you though on the legality of Israel's soverignty, but would rather not go into that at this moment.

YESHUA, not that I condone the actions of HAMAS in fact I roundly condemn them, but look at how that organization came to be and the actual goals they proclaim. Not just what we hear from the western media. They have offered a cease-fire/peace treaty with Israel that would be in-effect for as long as Israel wishes; and they were told that their could be no discussion with them. Sadly, thats probally "partly" why they now hold the position of Israel must be destroyed. Which grieves me that they now embrace that notion.

So much prayer is needed for that area now, lets all pray.

Evanman, once again, your words have been a blessing.
 
YESHUA said:
You just can't help it can you?
but what ever you say Israel is here to stay and as long as there is a GOD in heaven who by the way love not only HIS people the Jews who still is HIS chosen ones, not all have that believe, but never the less thats the way it is, and nothing you say or do can change that but the HOLY ONE OF YISRAEL is capable of loving all who seek HIM with an earnest heart and guess what you don't have to be a Jew to be a child of THE HOLY ONE OF YISRAEL just be an earnest seeker and you will find YESHUA I did and so can you.
I know that we don't se eye to eye now but one day we will and until then may GOD bless you and your family in all you do except in killing my people.
Shalom and love in the name of YESHUA
chana

You always twist the fact

Anybody reading your post think that Palestinians is killing Israeli people

The whole world is witness on Israeli terrorism the first terrorist in the world is Israel.
Israeli daily commit crimes against human rights

Hamas doing nothing but self-defense to remove Israeli occupation

self-defense is permitted by human rights organizations and united nations and the whole free people in the world

Anyway God almighty has guaranteed the victory for us.

17:7. (And We said): "If you do good, you do good for your ownselves, and if you do evil (you do it) against yourselves." Then, when the second promise came to pass, (We permitted your enemies) to make your faces sorrowful and to enter the mosque (of Jerusalem) as they had entered it before, and to destroy with utter destruction all that fell in their hands.

Regarding the big dreams and misconceptions of Jews that they think themselves People of God the chosen ones

God almighty has answered them:

(Both) the Jews and the Christians say: "We are sons of Allah, and His beloved." Say: "Why then doth He punish you for your sins? Nay, ye are but men, of the men He hath created: He forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between: and unto Him is the final goal (of all)." (5:18)

And they say: "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain) desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful." (2:111)

Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion. Say: "The Guidance of Allah, that is the (only) Guidance," wert thou to follow their desires after the knowledge which hath reached thee, then wouldst thou find neither Protector nor Helper against Allah. (2:120)

The Jews say: "Allah's hand is tied up." Be their hands tied up and be they accursed for the (blasphemy) they utter. Nay both His hands are widely outstretched: He giveth and spendeth (of His bounty) as He pleaseth. But the revelation that cometh to thee from Allah increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. Amongst them We have placed enmity and hatred till the Day of Judgment. Every time they kindle the fire of war, Allah doth extinguish it; but they (ever) strive to do mischief on earth. And Allah loveth not those who do mischief. (5:64)



Sara: thank you for your feelings, but if you an objective you will not consider Israel is legal country
All know Israeli history and how it has been established
 
Muhsen said:
Sara: thank you for your feelings, but if you an objective you will not consider Israel is legal country
All know Israeli history and how it has been established

The definition of legality is where we're going to have a disagreement with. Nations are considered legal or soverign by their acceptance of other nations, since Israel is acknowledged as a country by many countries including some neighboring muslim countries, as well as the UN; I consider it as a nation a legal one.

Thats not implying that I agree with how it came to be though hun.
 
That is because the big effective powers in the world have common advantages with Israel they support the Satan

but It does not make sense for the free people in the world and the objectives people if they haven’t Objective views

Isn’t it Sara?
 
Muhsen, the surah you quote are not from God... they are the hateful mutterings of Muhammad.

He was rejected as a prophet. He turned hateful; first to the Jews and then to the Christians.

His hatred is still reflected in Muslim's attitudes towards Jews, even today.

Do you HONESTLY believe what Muhammad said about Jews turning into pigs?

:o
 
It’s up to you to reject our great prophet (PBUH) or not
But you will stay in the darkness
 
Muhsen said:
It’s up to you to reject our great prophet (PBUH) or not
But you will stay in the darkness

Do you HONESTLY believe what Muhammad said about Jews turning into pigs and apes?

Read this: Did Allah transform Jews into apes and pigs? - CLICK HERE -

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Yes, God almighty can do anything he is the Omnipotent. does he?
 
Jews are descendants of apes and pigs

Where is the proof of Muhammad's little story?

I don't think it is an omnipotent God.... it is a fanciful Muhammad!

Did the apes mate? You Muslims think they did.
You and your Sheikhs act like Muhammad and STILL insult the Jews.

At the Sheikh Ijlin Mosque in Gaza, Sheikh Ibrahim Mudeiris, employee in the Religious Affairs Ministry in the Palestinian Authority, uses the Battle of Badr (AD 624) as a rallying cry for his fellow jihadists to fight the Jews, who are the descendants of apes and pigs.

Sheikh Ibrahim Mudeiris said:
Then came the great battle of Badr, where the Muslims grew stronger. This brought the third stage of dealing with the Jewish existence in Al-Madina. We have tolerated you for a long time - you offspring of apes and pigs! We have tolerated you for a long time.
Source: http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page= ... ID=SP68304
The Imam of the Al-Haram mosque in Mecca, Sheikh Abd Al-Rahman Al-Sudayis, explained in one of his sermons:

Sheikh Abd Al-Rahman Al-Sudayis said:
Read history and you will understand that the Jews of yesterday are the evil forefathers of the even more evil Jews of today: infidels, falsifiers of words, calf worshippers, prophet murderers, deniers of prophecies ... the scum of the human race, accursed by Allah, who turned them into apes and pigs ... These are the Jews – an ongoing continuum of deceit, obstinacy, licentiousness, evil, and corruption ...
Source: http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page= ... &ID=SR2504
Sheikh Muhammad Al-Saleh Al-‘Athimein said in a sermon at the Great Mosque in Al-‘Unayza, Arabia:

Muhammad Al-Saleh Al-‘Athimein said:
O Muslims, the Jews are treacherous and deceitful people over whom lies the curse and anger of Allah. They permitted what Allah forbade, with the lamest of excuses; therefore, He cursed them and turned them into apes and pigs. Allah sentenced them to humiliation anywhere they might be ...
Source: http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page= ... &ID=SR2504
Note how the Sheikh draws the inference for today: "Allah sentenced them to humiliation anywhere they might be." This means the Jews of today.

No wonder Muslims think and act like Muhammad!!!

I call this sick. What do you call it?

:o :o :o

Source: http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/ ... w_apes.htm
 
... one moderator on this board would prefer that I call them "liars and sinners."

I wonder what Jesus would have called them?

A brood of vipers perhaps? (Matthew 23:33) "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?"

Remember, these are false teachers who are misleading people. They incite their followers which leads to murder, suicide bombings and souls being lost for eternity.

What would you call them? I think I know what Jesus would have called them.

:-?
 
False leaders

“You serpents, you brood of vipers, how shall you escape the sentence of hell?†(Matthew 23:33)

The question was rhetorical, meaning that they could not possibly escape the sentence of hell if they carried out the evil intent that now poisoned their hearts.

Ophis (serpents) was a general word for snakes, but echidna (vipers) referred to small poisonous snakes that lived primarily in the desert regions of Palestine and other parts of the eastern Mediterranean. Because they looked like a dried twig when they were still, a person collecting wood for a fire would often pick one up inadvertently and be bitten, as happened to Paul on the island of Malta. That particular viper was deadly, and when Paul suffered no harm from the bite, the superstitious islanders thought he was a god (Acts 28:3-6). Vipers therefore had the understandable reputation for being both deadly and deceitful.

At the beginning of his ministry John the Baptist had called the unbelieving and unrepentant Pharisees and Sadducees who came to him for baptism a “brood of vipers†(Matt. 3:7), using exactly the same phrase used now by Jesus at the end of His ministry to describe those same false leaders. Neither the messages of John the Baptist nor of Jesus had any positive effect on those men, but served only to harden them in their unbelief and in their opposition to the gospel and to God’s righteous messengers.

In pagan Greek culture, the echidna had long been associated with evil. In their mythology the name was given to a monster deity that was half snake and half woman and that gave birth to other monsters, including the murderous sphinx of Thebes.

By the time of Christ, echidna was universally associated with extreme wickedness and danger. Therefore when Jesus called the scribes and Pharisees a brood of vipers, He was declaring them to be both evil and deadly.

The term geenna (hell) was derived from the name of a valley near Jerusalem where trash and garbage continually burned. Jesus’ relating vipers to the sentence of hell suggests the common practice of a farmer’s burning the dried stubble in his field to prepare the land for the next planting. As the flames approached their dens, vipers would try to scurry away but were usually unsuccessful and consumed by the fire. Jesus said, in effect, “You wicked, deceitful men, do you really think you can outrun God’s fire of judgment?â€Â

As Jesus had just reminded them, those false leaders were guilty of keeping people out of the kingdom, guilty of subverting the people, guilty of perverting God’s truth, guilty of inverting God’s priorities, guilty of extorting God’s people, guilty of spiritually contaminating everyone they touched, guilty of pretending to be righteous while being malevolent, and worst of all guilty of preparing to execute God’s own Son.

MacArthur, John F., Matthew: The MacArthur New Testament Commentary, (Chicago: Moody Press) 1989.
 
Israel's War Crimes against Palestinians

We all have a general idea of what a war crime is, so I am not going to elaborate upon that term here. But there are different degrees of heinousness for war crimes. In particular are the more serious war crimes denominated "grave breaches" of the Fourth Geneva Convention. Since the start of the Al Aqsa Intifada, the world has seen those inflicted every day by Israel against the Palestinian People living in occupied Palestine: e.g., willful killing of Palestinian civilians by the Israeli army and Israel's illegal paramilitary settlers. These Israeli "grave breaches" of the Fourth Geneva Convention mandate universal prosecution for their perpetrators, whether military or civilian, as well as prosecution for their commanders, whether military or civilian, including Israel's political leaders.

Israel's Crimes Against Humanity against Palestinians

But I want to focus for a moment on Israel's "crime against humanity" against the Palestinian People -- as determined by the U.N. Human Rights Commission itself, set up pursuant to the requirements of the United Nations Charter. What is a "crime against humanity"? This concept goes all the way back to the Nuremberg Charter of 1945 for the trial of the major Nazi war criminals. And in the Nuremberg Charter of 1945, drafted by the United States Government, there was created and inserted a new type of international crime specifically intended to deal with the Nazi persecution of the Jewish People.
The paradigmatic example of a "crime against humanity" is what Hitler and the Nazis did to the Jewish People. This is where the concept of crime against humanity came from. And this is what the U.N. Human Rights Commission determined that Israel is currently doing to the Palestinian People: Crimes against humanity. Legally, just like what Hitler and the Nazis did to the Jews.

The Precursor to Genocide

Moreover, a crime against humanity is the direct historical and legal precursor to the international crime of genocide as defined by the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. The theory here was that what Hitler and the Nazis did to the Jewish People required a special international treaty that would codify and universalize the Nuremberg concept of "crime against humanity." And that treaty ultimately became the 1948 Genocide Convention.
In fairness, you will note that the U.N. Human Rights Commission did not go so far as to condemn Israel for committing genocide against the Palestinian People. But it has condemned Israel for committing crimes against humanity, which is the direct precursor to genocide. And I submit that if something is not done quite soon by the American People and the International Community to stop Israeli war crimes and crimes against humanity against the Palestinian People, it could very well degenerate into genocide, if Israel is not there already. And in this regard, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon is what international lawyers call a genocidaire--one who has already committed genocide in the past.
Mr. Francis A. Boyle is a Professor in International Law.


Some of the documented Zionism massacres details

http://www.palestinehistory.com/mass03.htm
http://www.palestinehistory.com/mass01.htm
http://www.palestinehistory.com/mass04.htm
http://www.palestinehistory.com/mass02.htm
http://www.palestinehistory.com/mass05.htm
http://www.palestinehistory.com/mass06.htm
http://www.palestinehistory.com/mass07.htm
http://www.palestinehistory.com/mass08.htm



http://www.revisionisthistory.org/palestine46.html

http://www.revisionisthistory.org/palestine52.html

http://www.palestine-encyclopedia.com/E ... _3of10.htm

http://emperors-clothes.com/gilwhite/deiryassin.htm
http://www.monabaker.com/pMachine/more. ... _0_1_0_M10
 
Muhsen said:
YESHUA said:
You just can't help it can you?
but what ever you say Israel is here to stay and as long as there is a GOD in heaven who by the way love not only HIS people the Jews who still is HIS chosen ones, not all have that believe, but never the less thats the way it is, and nothing you say or do can change that but the HOLY ONE OF YISRAEL is capable of loving all who seek HIM with an earnest heart and guess what you don't have to be a Jew to be a child of THE HOLY ONE OF YISRAEL just be an earnest seeker and you will find YESHUA I did and so can you.
I know that we don't se eye to eye now but one day we will and until then may GOD bless you and your family in all you do except in killing my people.
Shalom and love in the name of YESHUA

Israel releases 500 Palestinian security prisoners


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Margot Dudkevitch and JPost Staff, THE JERUSALEM POST Feb. 20, 2005

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Early Monday morning, Israel released 500 Palestinians prisoners from the Ketziot military prison, and the newly freed detainees were transported to their homes in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, as part of Israel's goodwill gestures to PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas.

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon had promised the release of the 500 prisoners at the Israeli-Palestinian summit in Sharm e-Sheikh earlier this month, where Sharon and Abbas declared a cease-fire to end four years of bloodshed.

Fourteen buses, escorted by police and ambulances, were seen leaving the military prison camp at Ketziot in the southern Negev desert near the border with Egypt. The prisoners were released to five dispersal points: 53 were released at Beitunya near Ramallah, 169 at Berotayim near Tulkarm, 105 at Tarkumiya near Hebron, 137 at Salem outside Jenin and 37 at Erez in the Gaza Strip.

Prior to their release, every one of the prisoners, which included 380 prisoners and 120 administrative detainees, signed waivers promising to refrain from any terrorist activities in the future.

At Beitunya near Ramallah, two busloads of prisoners led a by Prisoner Service Authority patrol van drove up to the checkpoint, where they were to be released, shortly after 11:00 a.m. and were greeted by excited crowds waving PLO flags.

Among those present to greet the newly freed prisoners was Abu Sukker, who was involved in the refrigerator bomb blast in Zion Square in the 1970's and was released from Israeli prison one year ago. Since Abbas's election, Sukker has been serving as advisor for prisoner affairs.

On the Palestinian side of the checkpoint, minibuses waited to take the prisoners to Ramallah. A number of the prisoners as well as their family members asserted that the release would not be sufficient to bring peace to the area, but others praised Abbas for securing their release.

Within the next three months, Israel is planning to release another 400 prisoners. A joint Israeli-Palestinian ministerial committee will decide which prisoners will be released in the second round.

Monday's release was made possible after the High Court of Justice ruled unanimously on Sunday to reject a petition by a group of victims of terror against the release of the 500 prisoners.

Even though 180 of the prisoners due to be released have not completed two-thirds of their sentence, the court ruled that the government was empowered to establish the criteria determining which prisoners were eligible to be set free.

AP contributed to this report.

just who many countries would do this? and your still crying for more arn't you? you jsut can't get enough of Jewish blood and land and the land was promissed to Abraham, Isac, and Jacob and both Sara and Everman knows this and everman just what do you mean by tjat non-Jews has a right to the land of Israel please explain yourself, and Sara ask Muhsen how old his parents are now and how old they were when they left Palestine? and also ask why they came to the USA, and some else you write that the Hamas came into being for a just course, you know nothing about the conflict in the M.E other than what you se on TV do you?
shalom and love in the name of YESHUA
chana

You always twist the fact

Anybody reading your post think that Palestinians is killing Israeli people

The whole world is witness on Israeli terrorism the first terrorist in the world is Israel.
Israeli daily commit crimes against human rights

Hamas doing nothing but self-defense to remove Israeli occupation

self-defense is permitted by human rights organizations and united nations and the whole free people in the world

Anyway God almighty has guaranteed the victory for us.

17:7. (And We said): "If you do good, you do good for your ownselves, and if you do evil (you do it) against yourselves." Then, when the second promise came to pass, (We permitted your enemies) to make your faces sorrowful and to enter the mosque (of Jerusalem) as they had entered it before, and to destroy with utter destruction all that fell in their hands.

Regarding the big dreams and misconceptions of Jews that they think themselves People of God the chosen ones

God almighty has answered them:

(Both) the Jews and the Christians say: "We are sons of Allah, and His beloved." Say: "Why then doth He punish you for your sins? Nay, ye are but men, of the men He hath created: He forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between: and unto Him is the final goal (of all)." (5:18)

And they say: "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain) desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful." (2:111)

Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion. Say: "The Guidance of Allah, that is the (only) Guidance," wert thou to follow their desires after the knowledge which hath reached thee, then wouldst thou find neither Protector nor Helper against Allah. (2:120)

The Jews say: "Allah's hand is tied up." Be their hands tied up and be they accursed for the (blasphemy) they utter. Nay both His hands are widely outstretched: He giveth and spendeth (of His bounty) as He pleaseth. But the revelation that cometh to thee from Allah increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. Amongst them We have placed enmity and hatred till the Day of Judgment. Every time they kindle the fire of war, Allah doth extinguish it; but they (ever) strive to do mischief on earth. And Allah loveth not those who do mischief. (5:64)



Sara: thank you for your feelings, but if you an objective you will not consider Israel is legal country
All know Israeli history and how it has been established
 
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