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You Have Two Options

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You Have Two Options

During the 1260 days of the GT, the woman (who ever she is) is going to be protected and fed in a place prepare by God.

Revelation 12: 6And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
14And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Being unsuccessful at devouring the woman, Satan will then turn his attention to the rest of Christendom.

Revelation 12: 17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

You have two options:

1. Be a part of the woman and be protected a fed for the duration of the GT.
2. Be a part of the rest of Christendom.

Guy
 
guysmith said:
You Have Two Options

During the 1260 days of the GT, the woman (who ever she is) is going to be protected and fed in a place prepare by God.

Revelation 12: 6And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
14And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Being unsuccessful at devouring the woman, Satan will then turn his attention to the rest of Christendom.

Revelation 12: 17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

You have two options:

1. Be a part of the woman and be protected a fed for the duration of the GT.
2. Be a part of the rest of Christendom.

Guy
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I totally agree.
 
I disagree.
If God willing ,I will help feed the woman while she is in the wilderness.
I need not flee out of Judea because I do not dwell there but I would love to help those who do.

Yes.I could be a "they".
 
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Shilohsfoal said:
I disagree.
If God willing ,I will help feed the woman while she is in the wilderness.
I need not flee out of Judea because I do not dwell there but I would love to help those who do.

Yes.I could be a "they".
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Shilohsfoal has got the right idea - be with the woman.
 
Originally Posted by Shilohsfoal
I disagree.
If God willing ,I will help feed the woman while she is in the wilderness.
I need not flee out of Judea because I do not dwell there but I would love to help those who do.

Yes.I could be a "they".
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racer said:
Shilohsfoal has got the right idea - be with the woman.
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Sounds to me like the both of you are really confusedon the meaning of Rev 12
 
guysmith said:
You Have Two Options

During the 1260 days of the GT, the woman (who ever she is) is going to be protected and fed in a place prepare by God.

Revelation 12: 6And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
14And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Being unsuccessful at devouring the woman, Satan will then turn his attention to the rest of Christendom.

Revelation 12: 17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

You have two options:

1. Be a part of the woman and be protected a fed for the duration of the GT.
2. Be a part of the rest of Christendom.

Guy
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Ok. I'll bite. If we have the options. How do we choose? How do we align ourselves with one or the other?
 
Hello nathanielhooper ,

Before I reply to your question, I would like to state that these two options are not a point of salvation. Whether you are alive at Christ's advent or have died in Christ, it makes no difference at the resurrection.

You stated: Ok. I'll bite. If we have the options. How do we choose? How do we align ourselves with one or the other?

My response: In Option 1, God has "prepared" is a place where those who wish to participate will be "fed" and protected for the duration of the GT (this is the message of Revelation 12). This requires those who wish to be alive at Christ's advent to accurately determine where the place "prepared of God" is and when to be there at the right time.

Option 2 is a description of those who are going to be martyred during the 1260 days of the GT. No action is required.

Guy
 
guysmith said:
You Have Two Options

During the 1260 days of the GT, the woman (who ever she is) is going to be protected and fed in a place prepare by God.

Revelation 12: 6And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
14And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Being unsuccessful at devouring the woman, Satan will then turn his attention to the rest of Christendom.

Revelation 12: 17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

You have two options:

1. Be a part of the woman and be protected a fed for the duration of the GT.
2. Be a part of the rest of Christendom.

Guy
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I might revise those matters quite differently.

The Holy Spirit led Jesus into the wilderness.

For WHAT PURPOSE?

To be 'tempted' of the Devil.

The TWO WINGS are LOVE and JUDGMENT which wings Jesus showed/spoke upon the devil. Without those TWO WINGS no one will be equipped to deal with that working of the devil.

Satan, the DEVIL has in fact been 'persecuting' the woman and her son in the wilderness from the beginning.

THE FLOOD that the DRAGON has spewed forth is available to see OPENLY wherever we see 'THE WORKS' of same IN MAN. There, in the body of MAN is the EARTH that has been and will continue to SWALLOW DRAGON WORKS.

These works have in effect been SWALLOWED up by the earth-IN THE DUST of Satan's habitations....MANKIND.

All of us have in fact been fed 'a portion' of the HEAD of LEVIATHAN....THE DRAGON in the wilderness....

Psalm 74:
13 Thou didst divide the sea by thy strength: thou brakest the heads of the dragons in the waters.

14 Thou brakest the heads of leviathan in pieces, and gavest him to be meat to the people inhabiting the wilderness. 15 Thou didst cleave the fountain and the flood: thou driedst up mighty rivers.

Many of these Revelation matters extend to the beginning of man on earth from the Garden.

Satan fell to 'earth' there. It is not a 'future' falling.

enjoy!

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guysmith said:
My response: In Option 1, God has "prepared" is a place where those who wish to participate will be "fed" and protected for the duration of the GT (this is the message of Revelation 12). This requires those who wish to be alive at Christ's advent to accurately determine where the place "prepared of God" is and when to be there at the right time.

Option 2 is a description of those who are going to be martyred during the 1260 days of the GT. No action is required.
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Thanks. So, I got #2 figured out. Now, how about #1? How do you 'get' to participate? Where is "the place prepared of God"? Do you have an approximate time when people should be there?
 
nathanielhooper,

You stated: How do you 'get' to participate? Where is "the place prepared of God"?

My response: Joel 2: 32 And everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved; for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be deliverance, as the LORD has said, among the survivors whom the LORD calls.

You stated: Do you have an approximate time when people should be there?

My response: One must be there before the start of the GT. Once the GT starts, one cannot travel or purchase anything (such as travel tickets) without the mark-of-the-beast.

Guy
 
guysmith said:
nathanielhooper,

You stated: How do you 'get' to participate? Where is "the place prepared of God"?

My response: Joel 2: 32 And everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved; for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be deliverance, as the LORD has said, among the survivors whom the LORD calls.

You stated: Do you have an approximate time when people should be there?

My response: One must be there before the start of the GT. Once the GT starts, one cannot travel or purchase anything (such as travel tickets) without the mark-of-the-beast.

Guy
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So your saying in Jerusalem, the city, inside of Israel, the country over there in the middle east?
 
nathanielhooper,

You stated: So your saying in Jerusalem, the city, inside of Israel, the country over there in the middle east?

My response: No, actually Joel and other OT prophets are saying it. If you think about it, could there really be another place? I know you are having reservations about now, I had them when I first discovered this. I imagine Noah must have had the same reservations you are experiencing when God suggested he build an ark. And Lot must have also had similar reservations when he was instructed to leave his home in S&G. But when I got over the initial shock, it was obvious that it was really the only place and joyful that God had found me worthy by opening my eyes to this revelation.

Think about it. If we do nothing, option #2 awaits us. And let's say that you do go to Jerusalem at the appointed time and find out that the prophets were wrong. The worst that can happen is option #2, it's just going to happen "over there in the middle east" instead of over here. One nice thing, you would have a little vacation in the "promised land" before option #2. That's if the prophets are wrong. And if they are not wrong......

Besides your reservations, I am sure you have questions. If you seek council from another person I can guarantee they will try to talk you out of it. I suggest you seek the LORDS council and study the word ZION in your thesaurus. Also, I am available.

Guy
 
nathanielhooper said:
So your saying in Jerusalem, the city, inside of Israel, the country over there in the middle east?
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Dont listen to him.Hes telling you to do the exact opposite of what Jesus said.

Luke 21;21
Then let them which are in Judea flee to the mountains;and let them which are in the midst of it depart out;and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

Jesus said dont enter Judea at that time.I hope you know who to listen to.
What guysmith does not understand is the woman in rev 12 is leaving Judea just as Jesus said in the above verse.
She ,unlike guysmith listens to Jesus.
 
guysmith said:
nathanielhooper,

The worst that can happen is option #2Guy
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No guysmith.
The worst thing that can happen to this person who you are misleading is this.

Luke 21;22-23
For these be the days of vengeance,that all thiongs which are written may be fofilled.
But woe unto them that are with child,and them that give suck,in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land,and wrath upon this people.


You should be ashamed of yourself for attempting to mislead this person to do what Jesus said not to do.But Im sure it is out of ignorance that you would tell this person to go to the one place they shouldnt be.I would hope every one you speak to listens to Jesus and not you.
 
nathanielhooper,

You stated: So, what say you to the words penned in Luke 21?

My response: I believe that there are those which take Luke 21: 21 out of context. That is, that Luke 21:21 is not instruction for those in the end times, but rather, for those in 70AD. Luke's focus is about the events (which he clearly states) that lead up to the destruction of the temple which occured in 70 AD Notice in verse 7 that Luke only addresses the issue concerning the destruction of the temple.

Luke 21: 5Some of his disciples were remarking about how the temple was adorned with beautiful stones and with gifts dedicated to God. But Jesus said, 6"As for what you see here, the time will come when not one stone will be left on another; every one of them will be thrown down."
7"Teacher," they asked, "when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are about to take place?"

The following is a quote from the third paragraph of the following commentary:
Luke 21 Commentary - Jerusalem's Destruction and the End - BibleGateway.com

"The significance of these differences becomes clear as one carefully compares the accounts. Luke emphasizes the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70 in a way the other Gospels do not. All the Synoptics anticipate the fall of Jerusalem in the way they introduce the discourse, but Luke focuses on the short-term event in a way Matthew and Mark do not. His temporal indicators (vv. 9, 12) draw the reader back toward the present before really focusing on the end in verses 25-28. A transition begins to appear in verses 20-24, but until verse 19 the focus is still on events before the judgment of the capital in A.D. 70, which is not yet the end."

So, when Luke penned Luke 21:20-24 he was describing the events which happened in 70 AD. and not the end of the age.

Luke 21: 20"When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. 22For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written. 23How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. 24They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

Guy
 
You go ahead on over there yourself guysmith and dwell with the beast then.Recieve his mark while your there.When the time comes for Abraham to recieve the land promised to him,you will be cast out along with the children who dwell there with you.



Mathew 8;11-12
And I say unto you.That many shall come from the east and west,and shall sit down with Abraham,and Isaac,and Jacob,in the kingdom of heaven.
But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness;there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
 
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