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Barbarian

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Happy Easter, all. He is risen! This morning before church, I was thinking about the four Gospels, and which one best informed me of Jesus and his message to us. I find more inspiration in Matthew, because that seems the most practical and clear exposition of what we are to do and be as followers of Christ.

I'd be interested in your favorites and why. Or if you don't have a favorite, why not?
 
I pick John ... less narrative and more teaching ... especially salvific teaching... I'll pick Matthew 2nd.
 
Happy Easter, all. He is risen! This morning before church, I was thinking about the four Gospels, and which one best informed me of Jesus and his message to us. I find more inspiration in Matthew, because that seems the most practical and clear exposition of what we are to do and be as followers of Christ.

I'd be interested in your favorites and why. Or if you don't have a favorite, why not?
I think I like Luke the most, as it has the events up to John the Baptist's birth and then his ministry.
 
Matthew.

It's what I first read, back when I had this great big Heirloom KJV that my father gave me cuz somebody left it at the house.

Matthew was God speaking to me. The rest were just further confirmation.
 
I'm thinking we have several gospels because God knew that different people would be receptive to different presentations.
 
I'm thinking we have several gospels because God knew that different people would be receptive to different presentations.

Yes. I recall reading somewhere that there are things that make each of the four perspectives unique...

I haven't read through all of this yet, but some of the material might make for an interesting discussion:
 
Yes. I recall reading somewhere that there are things that make each of the four perspectives unique...

I haven't read through all of this yet, but some of the material might make for an interesting discussion:
Thanks. I'll have some time to read through it next week. It's something I've been interested in for a while.
 
God is to great for any one facet to adequately sum Him up.
 
Happy Easter, all. He is risen! This morning before church, I was thinking about the four Gospels, and which one best informed me of Jesus and his message to us. I find more inspiration in Matthew, because that seems the most practical and clear exposition of what we are to do and be as followers of Christ.

I'd be interested in your favorites and why. Or if you don't have a favorite, why not?
I think the most important one would be which God we are to worship and serve, don't you Barbarian? Mat 4:10
 
I think the most important one would be which God we are to worship and serve, don't you Barbarian? Mat 4:10
There is only One. Your choices are to worship and serve Him or not. Everything else is mere idolatry. Far as I can see, all four Gospels are about the only God there is.
 
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There is only One. Your choices are to worship and serve Him or not. Everything else is mere idolatry. Far as I can see, all four Gospels are about the only God there is.
Yes sir, that is very true, so do you honestly believe the God Jesus promoted was Jehovah?
 
Yes sir, that is very true, so do you honestly believe the God Jesus promoted was Jehovah?
"Jehovah" is a rather poor attempt to pronounce "יהוה" (YHWH). The meaning "I am that I am" is the closest meaning we get in English. There is only one God, so "God" does nicely for a unique and eternal being Who made all other things.
 
Although I don't like the idea of "favorite" gospel, as they are all wonderful, the one that means the most to me is John's gospel. There is more of the supernatural, mystical qualities of Christ in John's gospel than the other three.
 
There is more of the supernatural, mystical qualities of Christ in John's gospel than the other three.
I've always admired St. Francis and Saint Ignatius, for their practical and intellectual approaches to God. Perhaps I need to go back and read Luke and John again; there is something to be gained from each Gospel. Thing is, whenever I have questions about the Christian way, I always find what I'm looking for, in Matthew.
 
Yes sir, that is very true, so do you honestly believe the God Jesus promoted was Jehovah?

"Jehovah" is a rather poor attempt to pronounce "יהוה" (YHWH). The meaning "I am that I am" is the closest meaning we get in English. There is only one God, so "God" does nicely for a unique and eternal being Who made all other things.
You certainly cannot call on HIs name for salvation if you reject it for sure. Rom 10:13. May I ask why you believe all the translators got it wrong Barbarian?
 
You certainly cannot call on HIs name for salvation if you reject it for sure. Rom 10:13. May I ask why you believe all the translators got it wrong Barbarian?
In fact, only a few translators messed it up.

The name of God in English is usually represented by four letters: YHWH (or occasionally YHVH). In the original language it’s composed of four Hebrew letters: “יהוה”.
  1. The Hebrew letter “י”, (Yud).
  2. The Hebrew letter “ה”, (“Hei” or “hey”)
  3. The Hebrew letter “ו” (Waw“, in modern Hebrew, the name of this letter is “Vav” and the modern pronunciation produces a “v” sound instead of the “w” sound that it produced when the Old Testament was written. That’s why you’ll sometimes see it written YHVH)
  4. The Hebrew letter “ה”, (hei/hey) again.

Hence, if you said the letters of God’s name in Hebrew, it would be “Yud-hey-Waw-hey” (or “Yud-hey-Vav-hey” if you are using the modern pronunciation).

However, the original pronunciation of YHWH has been lost

Why?

The four consonants YHWH… …are preserved from Paleo-Hebrew where the written text only had consonants, and the reader supplied the vowels during reading; as we today would read “blvd.” as “boulevard.” How the reader should pronounce the words was delivered from generation to generation by word of mouth.

During the period between 500 and 1000 CE the vowel points were invented. These markings were added to the consonants with the idea of helping the reader to pronounce the words correctly.
But before these vowel points were invented, there developed a superstition against using the Divine Name. Easton’s Bible Dictionary says that the Jews stopped using the Name because of a misinterpretation of Leviticus 24:16, “anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death.”
Source (emphasis original)

Conclusion


No one is sure how YHWH is properly pronounced. However despite the scholarly consensus on “Yahweh”, I think “Yehowah” (Ye-Ho-Wah) fits the evidence best… but again no one knows for sure.

Remember, Jesus makes it very clear in Matthew 25 what you must do to be saved. And it's not knowing how to pronounce the word the Israelites used for God. This isn't a magical spell that will save you if you just pronounce it right. God is a just God Who delights in justice and goodness, not some vain spirit who cares about the name you use for Him.
 
I think the most important one would be which God we are to worship and serve, don't you Barbarian? Mat 4:10
Yes sir, that is very true, so do you honestly believe the God Jesus promoted was Jehovah?

Alright, some times things just need to be said...

54, all the people in this thread come from different theological perspectives on whole host of other issues, and yet all at least found a way to find some common ground in this thread. You, however, can't even muster a simple response about what Gospel you like best without turning it into yet another redundant Jehovah's Witness debate about what God we are all supposedly worshipping.

Here's an "important point" for you: Christians have almost nothing in common with Jehovahs Witnesses, and Jehovahs Witnesses have almost nothing in common with Christians, despite nevertheless falsely claiming that's what they supposedly are. You spout heresy on a continual basis. How about if you at least do it where it fits the context? Go find some thread from twenty years ago, dig it up from the crypt, and respond to some dead person who couldn't care less about your response, but stop polluting threads like this, or people may grow weary of it and start telling you just how much they appreciate your "contributions" on other threads as well.
 
In fact, only a few translators messed it up.

The name of God in English is usually represented by four letters: YHWH (or occasionally YHVH). In the original language it’s composed of four Hebrew letters: “יהוה”.
  1. The Hebrew letter “י”, (Yud).
  2. The Hebrew letter “ה”, (“Hei” or “hey”)
  3. The Hebrew letter “ו” (Waw“, in modern Hebrew, the name of this letter is “Vav” and the modern pronunciation produces a “v” sound instead of the “w” sound that it produced when the Old Testament was written. That’s why you’ll sometimes see it written YHVH)
  4. The Hebrew letter “ה”, (hei/hey) again.

Hence, if you said the letters of God’s name in Hebrew, it would be “Yud-hey-Waw-hey” (or “Yud-hey-Vav-hey” if you are using the modern pronunciation).

However, the original pronunciation of YHWH has been lost

Why?


Conclusion


No one is sure how YHWH is properly pronounced. However despite the scholarly consensus on “Yahweh”, I think “Yehowah” (Ye-Ho-Wah) fits the evidence best… but again no one knows for sure.

Remember, Jesus makes it very clear in Matthew 25 what you must do to be saved. And it's not knowing how to pronounce the word the Israelites used for God. This isn't a magical spell that will save you if you just pronounce it right. God is a just God Who delights in justice and goodness, not some vain spirit who cares about the name you use for Him.
Names are different in different languages most of the time Barbarian, all translators who translate the Divine name into English render it Jehovah. I would agree that pronunciation is not too critical as many English speaking persons pronounce it differently.

Never forget however that God personally selected His name, and what He said to Pharaoh about His name Ex 9:16.

Do not mistake the fact that calling on His name is not a requirement for salvation though, because Rom 10:13 states that very clearly sir.
 
Alright, some times things just need to be said...

54, all the people in this thread come from different theological perspectives on whole host of other issues, and yet all at least found a way to find some common ground in this thread. You, however, can't even muster a simple response about what Gospel you like best without turning it into yet another redundant Jehovah's Witness debate about what God we are all supposedly worshipping.

Here's an "important point" for you: Christians have almost nothing in common with Jehovahs Witnesses, and Jehovahs Witnesses have almost nothing in common with Christians, despite nevertheless falsely claiming that's what they supposedly are. You spout heresy on a continual basis. How about if you at least do it where it fits the context? Go find some thread from twenty years ago, dig it up from the crypt, and respond to some dead person who couldn't care less about your response, but stop polluting threads like this, or people may grow weary of it and start telling you just how much they appreciate your "contributions" on other threads as well.
Was not my response in perfect harmony with what I was addressing sir? I gather from your comment that you are not familiar with the passage found at 1 Cor 1:10, is that correct?
 
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