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Horror isn't necessarily devoid of goodness just because it shows the worst of humanity. Especially if the Big Evil Thing (or person) is shown in a bad light.
You could maybe make a case for slasher films where the point is just to be shocked minute by minute or something.

Just think it's a shame that a thread intended to be fun now has to be contentious.
 
They're just movies. Calm down.

??? I am calm. Why do you think I'm not?

You know, God doesn't tell us to steer clear of evil for His sake. He's perfect. Among other things, this means He can't be improved or diminished by anything we do, or don't do. We can sin all day, everyday, and God will remain utterly unaffected. But we won't. Our sin damages us. It damages others, too, though we often can't see, or anticipate, how. The Bible says that entertaining yourself with evil sears your conscience, deadens you to the convicting pressure of the Holy Spirit, and opens wide the doors of your life to the demonic. And as the verses I quoted from Scripture indicate, no righteous person, no one walking rightly with the holy God of light, love and life, will have anything to do with the blood and gore, evil thinking and demonic "fun" of horror movies. I point this out, not to condemn but to warn. No one can disobey God with impunity. And no one can give ground to the devil in their life on which he will not try to build a life-destroying stronghold.
 
Garbage in, garbage out.
That's certainly been my experience with most Christian movies. There are some good ones like The Passion. But I couldn't imagine living life and being forced to only watch those dreadful "Christian movies" with the bad acting, poor writing, super low production values, etc.
 
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Hey All,
Riven, as you can see, there is a difference of opinions on this subject among believers. I can respect the differences. This is a textbook Romans 14 situation.

Romans 14:13-15 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.
I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.
But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.

There is nothing unclean of itself. Horror movies are fictional, not real, and are not sinful of themselves. But some Christians believe they are sinful. So to those believers, horror movies are sinful. We don't want our talk of enjoying them to be a stumbling block, or occasion to fall, to our brothers and sisters in Christ.

Romans 14:19 Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.

Keep walking everybody.
May God bless,
Taz
 
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Happened to come across this:

"I’m never going to be a diehard horror fan, that’s just not my style. But I will always be an advocate for media not being afraid to lean away from difficult or even scary subjects if the ultimate goal is to let the light shine through. So much of “Christian” media today is sanitized to the point that it feels like we’re watching some kind of alternate universe. But Christ is the Man of Sorrows, “despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief; and as one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not” (Isaiah 53:3, ESV). Jesus knows what it’s like to be in the depth of despair, and even to face evil head on in all its ugliness. If we’re never able to acknowledge the fact that sometimes, life is just plain scary, then we’re never in a position to allow Christ to overcome that evil and walk us through the valley of the shadow of death. While we are on this side of eternity, light will never shine as brightly as it does through the darkness, and when we come out of the dark into the light, we get a glimpse of that day when, finally, darkness will be eradicated once and for all."
 
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Happened to come across this:

"I’m never going to be a diehard horror fan, that’s just not my style. But I will always be an advocate for media not being afraid to lean away from difficult or even scary subjects if the ultimate goal is to let the light shine through. So much of “Christian” media today is sanitized to the point that it feels like we’re watching some kind of alternate universe. But Christ is the Man of Sorrows, “despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief; and as one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not” (Isaiah 53:3, ESV). Jesus knows what it’s like to be in the depth of despair, and even to face evil head on in all its ugliness. If we’re never able to acknowledge the fact that sometimes, life is just plain scary, then we’re never in a position to allow Christ to overcome that evil and walk us through the valley of the shadow of death. While we are on this side of eternity, light will never shine as brightly as it does through the darkness, and when we come out of the dark into the light, we get a glimpse of that day when, finally, darkness will be eradicated once and for all."
And it's so true. Ironically, the greatest horror movie ever made is The Passion. But imagine what that movie would have been like if Mel Gibson said, "This is a Christian film. We can't have any blood or anything that could make people uncomfortable."

It would have been a terrible flim. No one would have bought the suffering of Christ on the cross. It's this intentional removal of humanity's dark side that creates this disconnect. Because we know how brutal and unforgiving life can be. So, watching "Christian movies" is kind of like stepping into the world of The Matrix. Everything just feels off.
 
Some in this thread have framed the question of horror movies as one of mere opinion. It's not. God's word is crystal clear, as the several verses I've already posted indicate, that horror movies (and many other sorts of movies) have no place in the life of an individual who truly wants to know and walk with God. He is "holy, holy, holy" and commands His children to "come out from among them and touch not the unclean thing" (2 Corinthians 6:14-18) because light and dark have no fellowship with one another. We are to be "holy as God is holy" (1 Peter 1:15-16) in whom is no darkness at all (1 John 1:5). The compromise with evil, then, that is being urged in this thread under the banner of "Christian liberty" is entirely against the kind of life God expects all of His children to live.

God isn't kidding around when He warns that "he who sows to the flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption" (Galatians 6:7-8), that sin is deceitful and hardens the sinner against God (Hebrews 3:13), and that death of some kind always awaits the one who sins (Romans 6:23, James 1:14-16). Greatest of all dire effects of sin is that one who sins cannot really know and walk with God: "Without holiness no man shall see God" (Hebrews 12:14b). And God turns His face away from the wicked person, as the apostle Peter wrote:

1 Peter 3:10-12
10 For “Whoever desires to love life and see good days, let him keep his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking deceit;
11 let him turn away from evil and do good; let him seek peace and pursue it.
12 For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous, and his ears are open to their prayer. But the face of the Lord is against those who do evil.”


There is nothing of God, of His holiness, love, life and light in the vile, violent, demonic and dark content of a horror movie. That some of you cannot acknowledge this - and worse, imbibe this evil as entertainment - shows how far from God you are. He has more for you in Himself, greater joy, greater fulfillment, than any and all horror movies together could ever supply to you. But you cannot know this, you cannot experience this, so long as you dwell in the pig-pen of
sin, fouling yourself with blood and gore, evil thinking, terror, and the demonic.

Philippians 4:8
8 Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things.
 
And it's so true. Ironically, the greatest horror movie ever made is The Passion. But imagine what that movie would have been like if Mel Gibson said, "This is a Christian film. We can't have any blood or anything that could make people uncomfortable."

It would have been a terrible flim. No one would have bought the suffering of Christ on the cross. It's this intentional removal of humanity's dark side that creates this disconnect. Because we know how brutal and unforgiving life can be. So, watching "Christian movies" is kind of like stepping into the world of The Matrix. Everything just feels off.

Are the biblical accounts of Christ's Passion anything like Gibson's gory film? No. None of the accounts go into the grisly detail that the film does, taking pains to render the full awfulness of the event to the reader. Why? Because the blood and gore, the horrible bodily suffering, of Christ's atoning death aren't the important things; they are incidental to his sacrifice, his atonement being accomplished, not by the depth of his physical pain, but by his sinless, divine perfection, the shedding of his blood and the giving up of his life. To focus on the gruesomeness of the crucifixion is to orient upon the wrong thing entirely, mistaking mere physical suffering for the far, far, far greater suffering Christ endured being "made sin for us who knew no sin," and separated from the Father for a time, as a result.
 
Are the biblical accounts of Christ's Passion anything like Gibson's gory film? No. None of the accounts go into the grisly detail that the film does, taking pains to render the full awfulness of the event to the reader. Why? Because the blood and gore, the horrible bodily suffering, of Christ's atoning death aren't the important things; they are incidental to his sacrifice, his atonement being accomplished, not by the depth of his physical pain, but by his sinless, divine perfection, the shedding of his blood and the giving up of his life. To focus on the gruesomeness of the crucifixion is to orient upon the wrong thing entirely, mistaking mere physical suffering for the far, far, far greater suffering Christ endured being "made sin for us who knew no sin," and separated from the Father for a time, as a result.
He was trying to paint an accurate portrayal of what the Roman Legion did to people. They didn't just put him up on the cross. The message was to love one another. That's what he told his disciples in flashbacks while he was suffering. The contrast there is what made it effective.
 
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Tucker and Dale-vs- Evil
Mars Attacks,Ha,Ha
For the Sci-Fi Fans,The Final Countdown,with Kirk Douglas.

For those without sin,cast the first stone;
John 8:7.
 
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Killdozer
Tucker and Dale-vs- Evil
Mars Attacks,Ha,Ha
For the Sci-Fi Fans,The Final Countdown,with Kirk Douglas.

For those without sin,cast the first stone;
John 8:7.
Killdozer ,the story of the guy who built that and avenged himself from city hall was a horror movie ,?
 
Hey All,
Riven, as you can see, there is a difference of opinions on this subject among believers. I can respect the differences. This is a textbook Romans 14 situation.

Romans 14:13-15 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.
I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.
But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.

There is nothing unclean of itself.
But not everything is beneficial. Many horror movies have gratuitous nudity and violence (often being gory), vulgarity, as well as sometimes including the demonic, do they not? Did Christ die so that we could sit around and fill our heads with the evil in horror movies (and much of what passes for entertainment)?

Rom 12:1 I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.
Rom 12:2 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect. (ESV)

Php 4:8 Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things.
Php 4:9 What you have learned and received and heard and seen in me—practice these things, and the God of peace will be with you. (ESV)

Tit 2:11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,
Tit 2:12 training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age,
Tit 2:13 waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Tit 2:14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.
Tit 2:15 Declare these things; exhort and rebuke with all authority. Let no one disregard you. (ESV)

Where do horror movies fit into the above passages?

Horror movies are fictional, not real, and are not sinful of themselves. But some Christians believe they are sinful. So to those believers, horror movies are sinful. We don't want our talk of enjoying them to be a stumbling block, or occasion to fall, to our brothers and sisters in Christ.
The questions are: What is the motivation for watching them? What edification is there for the believer? Does watching them help a believer grow in sanctification? How does watching them glorify God? What does light have to do with darkness? Who would want to sit there with Jesus and watch them? (Who would sit with Jesus and watch most of what we watch in the West?)

Romans 14:19 Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.
And, yet, should we not exhort believers to do better?

2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
2Ti 3:17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work. (ESV)

I get very concerned for those in the Western Church who try to find all manner of justification for things that likely would have appalled the early church, and do appall those in the persecuted church (not necessarily speaking of horror movies).

Just some things to think about (and, yes, I am including myself).
 
What is the motivation for watching them?
Same motivation for watching any movie. You don't need a special motivation for an activity to be ok.

What edification is there for the believer?
I actually linked an article above that addresses this question. Acknowledging the darker parts of humanity is not without merit.

Does watching them help a believer grow in sanctification?
It certainly can. But also, does playing Chess help a believer grow in sanctification? Does it need to?


How does watching them glorify God?
By contrasting light and darkness. Also, does playing Chess glorify God? Does it need to in order to be ok for a Christian to partake in?
What does light have to do with darkness?
We live in a dark world, whether or not we like it. Fiction reflects the struggles we deal with.
Most of the horror-ish stuff I've watched has what my stepdad would refer to as "redeeming qualities". Meaning there are things to be gained from consuming the entertainment that are good.

Parasyte, which I mentioned earlier in this thread, is a horror anime with a good storyline and lots of gore and body horror.
There is far more to be gained from watching Parasyte, then say, a manga that I won't name but I recently learned of. It's not of the horror genre, but it is just so terribly dark and there are no bright points in it at all. This manga features a female protagonist who falls into prostitution, drugs, and repeated sexual assaults. I have not read it, but just reading a summary of the story made me absolutely nauseous. I would say that's definitely fiction to avoid. No bright points in it at all. Just darkness and traumatizing stuff for the sake of it.

Who would want to sit there with Jesus and watch them? (Who would sit with Jesus and watch most of what we watch in the West?)
I would.
 
Wow. This is moving along fast!

Can we at least distinguish between a horror movie
and a scary movie?

The Sixth Sense is scary and a very good movie.
There are more like this.

It's like music.
I wonder how anyone could like hard rock - Christian or not.

It does seem to me that a person that understands human nature should not be drawn to watch certain movies.

But, again, this is an opinion. Anyone here is allowed to watch whatever they want to....

Get this:
The Harry Potter series/franchise.

A Catholic priest had to exorcise 3 children because they had become obsessed or possessed (can't remember) with a demon.

You could believe it or not --- I believe it.
We open ourselves up to dark forces.
 
Wow. This is moving along fast!

Can we at least distinguish between a horror movie
and a scary movie?

The Sixth Sense is scary and a very good movie.
There are more like this.

It's like music.
I wonder how anyone could like hard rock - Christian or not.

It does seem to me that a person that understands human nature should not be drawn to watch certain movies.

But, again, this is an opinion. Anyone here is allowed to watch whatever they want to....

Get this:
The Harry Potter series/franchise.

A Catholic priest had to exorcise 3 children because they had become obsessed or possessed (can't remember) with a demon.

You could believe it or not --- I believe it.
We open ourselves up to dark forces.
Ahem

Don't preach the secret magic to me ,I was there .

Azlan to the witch . What book was that ? The lion and witch and wardrobe .cs.lewis wrote that .

Ah elves .what mythos we like for entertainment that has that ? Sg1,marvel .Thor anyone ?!


Rainbow bridge often quotes for dead pets but is actually with elven lore in Norse myths .

Sixth sense ,I see dead people.whem I saw that trailer I was lol.i wasn't into the chakra stuff then and to this day I see things . No way that can be that tendency
 
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Ahem

Don't preach the secret magic to me ,I was there .

Azlan to the witch . What book was that ? The lion and witch and wardrobe .cs.lewis wrote that .

Ah elves .what mythos we like for entertainment that has that ? Sg1,marvel .Thor anyone ?!


Rainbow bridge often quotes for dead pets but is actually with elven lore in Norse myths .

Sixth sense ,I see dead people.whem I saw that trailer I was lol.i wasn't into the chakra stuff then and to this day I see things . No way that can be that tendency
I don't know about that other stuff, but CS Lewis had Christian reasons for writing his stories.
Mere Christianity is just great.
And I think every teenager should be forced to read The Screwtape Letters.
 
I don't know about that other stuff, but CS Lewis had Christian reasons for writing his stories.
Mere Christianity is just great.
And I think every teenager should be forced to read The Screwtape Letters.
Magic is magic and also dungeons and dragons borrowed from Tolkien and also lewis .
 
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Killdozer
Tucker and Dale-vs- Evil
Mars Attacks,Ha,Ha
For the Sci-Fi Fans,The Final Countdown,with Kirk Douglas.

For those without sin,cast the first stone;
John 8:7.

Though I don't think you intended it, when you quoted John 8:7, you admitted, by implication, to the movies you listed being sin. But if you believe these movies are evil and that watching them is sinful, why are you watching them?

When Jesus said what he did in John 8:7, he wasn't denying the adulterous woman's sin. She had done wrong just as those who'd brought her to Christ had done. Likewise, point the finger at others and saying, "You're no better," doesn't alleviate you of the sinfulness of your own conduct. You can be sure God won't fall for this sort of transparent deflection when you stand before Him one day to account for your movie choices (among other things). "They're all sinners too," will sound just as lame then as it does now.