Zoroastrianism influence and Christianity

[Soma-Sight]

http://www.humanistsofutah.org/1997/Chr ... _4-97.html

How much of an influence did the PREXISTING religon of the prophet Zoraster have on modern day Christian belief?

We see the following similarities in both idealogies....

The future resurrection
Heaven/Hell
Satan
Good - Evil struggle
Baptism by water
etc etc......(go to google)

http://www.humanistsofutah.org/1997/Chr ... _4-97.html

 

[Soma-Sight]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Histo ... astrianism

 

[Gary]

Learn: http://www.tektonics.org/copycat/zoroaster.html

 

[Soma-Sight]

Gary,

remember that Zoroaster PREDATES the Gospels.....

 

[Gary]

Our main source for details on Zoro is the Avesta, a collection of sacred texts which was put in writing between 346-360 AD [Herz.ZW, 774] and of which we have manuscript copies only as early as the 13th century [Wat.Z, 56 -- and note to conspiracy theorists: blame Alexander the Great and the Muslims for the destruction of Zoroastrian literature]. Some of the material probably comes from a time before the Christian era, but most of this is reckoned to be hymns and some basic information [Rose.IZ, 17] that was part of the oral tradition. The rest seems likely to have been added later, and for good reason, as Rose notes [ibid., 27]:

The incorporation of certain motifs into the Zoroastrian tradition in the ninth century CE could indicate the conscious attempt of the priesthood to exalt their prophet in the eyes of the faithful who may have been tempted to turn to other religions.

Source:
http://www.tektonics.org/copycat/zoroaster.html

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[cubedbee]

Gary, Gary, Gary. :smt018 I've seen you chastise non-believers on this board at least a dozen times for plagiarizing, and yet here you are hypocritically doing so yourself.

http://www.tektonics.org/copycat/zoroaster.html

 

[NRoof]

plagiarize:
transitive senses : to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the source.

Is it possible to plagiarize if the source has already been credited in an earlier post? Just asking.

 

[Gary]

Thanks cubedbee for your wonderful contribution to the topic!

 

[cubedbee]

Is it possible to plagiarize if the source has already been credited in an earlier post? Just asking.

Yes, it is, since as I unwittingly demonstrated, many posters aren't going to read the entire thread, but just a given post. :D

 

[cubedbee]

Thanks cubedbee for your wonderful contribution to the topic!

Sorry for the false accusation. Got to keep you on your toes though. And I honestly hadn't read the earlier post.

 

[Gary]

No problem. 8-)

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_problem

 

[Soma-Sight]

This is from GARY'S blog, not mine....

Read on for an interesting journey....

Does Persia have anything to do with Jerusalem? Zoro's faith had an idea that sounds like, and probably is, bodily resurrection, though it is most clear only in AD-dated Z texts. Did the Jews "steal" this idea while under the thumb of the Persians? There is no direct evidence either way; the Persians may have got the ideas from the Jews, and from Ezekiel or Daniel. We'll see some other general ideas they have in common as well. But in terms of borrowing, no evidence exists -- one way or the other, and a determination depends on the interpretations and datings of Zoroastrian texts. Zoroastrian scholars offer no consensus on the subject [Yam.PB, 461]: Yamauchi cites one Z scholar who believes that the Jews borrowed, another that says there is no way to tell who borrowed, and yet another who says that the borrowing was the other way. There is also a great difference in approach: The Jews buried their dead, while the Zoros exposed their dead.

Gary,

From YOUR own post we see that even fundamentalist scholars ARE NOT SURE WHO HAD THE ORIGINAL DOCTRINES THAT ARE SUPPOSEDLY "UNQUE TO THE JUDEO - CHISTIAN PARADIGM"!

 

[Soma-Sight]

Another section taken from Gary's blog...

Notice the stark contrast of dates here from Gary's 350 AD post....

The Gathic dialect is similar to the Vedic Rig Veda and thus Zoroaster has sometimes been dated as roughly contemporary to the Rig Veda, normally ascribed to c.1500-1250 BCE. However other sources suggest a later date – in the 6th century BCE. (William Malandra contends that the use of archaic language does not necessarily ascribe the Gathas to the time of the Rig Veda.

Should it be before 1300 BCE (prior to Akhenaten) then Zoroaster would be the earliest monotheist known in any religion, discounting the older oral tradition written down in the Torah and Old Testament.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism#History

This one HISTORICALLY can go either way!

 

[Soma-Sight]

Looks like its a Tremendous influence so far with this thread......

There has to be more voters out there!!!!

Come on and do your duty.... this is America!