Bible Study Gender of the Holy Spirit : female personality

[GodsGrace]

I might as well tell what the Holy Spirit has led me through here. Remember, God is Omnipotent and nothing is impossible for Him. That is absolutely key to this entire issue. In Matt. 22:30 Jesus tells us we will be as the Angels and there is much debate over that. The issue for understanding scripture is to throw away your life experience because Heaven IS NOT like the Earth. That and the Bible, with some investigation, explains itself.

I have been threatened, cursed, and flat out declared stupid but you must go to God's method of marriage and there are repeated instances of Biblical Marriage in scripture but I'll just use the first marriage here. God presented Eve to Adam, they lay together and they were married. I AM NOT being stupid when I say that any couple that enters into a physical relationship is then, in the eye of God, married. And when Jesus said tere will be no marriage in Heaven He said the ain't gonna be no sex in them thar hills, folks.

No Spirit Being has ever been born, they were all created by God and so it is, there is no reason for genitalia because there will be no copulation.

Hi Taylor,
You say:
I AM NOT being stupid when I say that any couple that enters into a physical relationship is then, in the eye of God, married.

Do you mean that it's not necessary to be married?

Wondering

 

[GodsGrace]

Personally, I don't like anyone tampering with classic Church dogma that has had the approval of early Church Fathers, and modern theologians for centuries. You said, "What would change? it would still be the Holy Spirit." My objection is the Nature of the Holy Spirit. There is a distinct difference between masculine & feminine traits. Just leave the Holy Spirit alone. Who knows what the Holy Spirit thinks of being referred to feminine. For me? I don't dare grieve the Holy Spirit of God because I desperately need Him as I post Truth in CF.net, and counsel hurting folk.

Hi Chopper,
The point of the O.P. is that the Holy Spirit used to be referred to as feminine and then this was changed.
I like to examine every new idea. How do you think I got HERE? By examining each and every doctrine of the church I grew up in. There's nothing wrong with this.

Yes. I do wonder what would change if the Holy Spirit were feminine. God is a power, not a person. Something that is beyond our capability to understand. Who can know God? MUST He be all masculine? Something in Him must also be feminine if He created Woman. Otherwise, where did woman get her attributes from?

I'm not one of these modern thinking liberals - you should know that by now - the ones who want to say that God is a woman. Now THAT I find blasphemous since there is no support in scripture for this.

So, yes, I know there is a distinct difference between masculine and feminine traits - I'm not one of those that would want to change men into women (which unfortunately seems to be happening). But, I can only repeat that I don't understand WHY it would be so grievous to the Holy Spirit to be considered female.

Wondering

 

[rthom7]

Greetings Administrators and Moderators
I would like my OP on the Holy Spirit closed for further discussion
I do not appreciate some of the comments posted
Firstly we need to respect that the heavenly deities of the Godhead are not like man, nor gender male nor gender female.... Scripture says nothing about any deity in any gender...we assume from the gender case of the Hebrew that the person is a "he" and this is a poor assumption....masculine case never says that....

The Hebrew word for gender male is "zakar" Strongs 2145, and there is not a single text declaring the Father using this word.... the pronoun "he" is simply a response to the masculine case of a Hebrew word, and not a reference to gender..... so please folks stops trying to make pictures of GOD like mankind...

We see darkly and we are created in the IMAGE of GOD gender male and gender female....

What nobody has noticed is what makes gender male, males and gender female, females, and the answer is in our natures, ...our ways of expressing love.....

There are TWO Hebrew words for love, and it is the ways we express love as two types that makes males and females different.... though technically biologically we are all the same, both sexes carry the same sex hormones, yet one hormone is stronger than the other making our manner of expressing love different....

I have only suggested that perhaps from the Hebrew cases for words, there are two cases
from the two ways of love, there are two Hebrew words for love
that perhaps the Godhead has different and unique ways of expressing love....

Please read my links and look through all the Hebrew verses that describe these two ways of love

Shalom

 

[GodsGrace]

I'm sorry rthome7.

How do you bring up this subject and then just disappear?

You have a very interesting idea - it's also very new to me.

Maybe you could explain these two types of love?
That would have been very interesting and edifying for both the male and female human species - we could learn about love - it's never enough.

HOW would you have liked this thread to proceed?
I could post a thousand links - do we then not discuss them?
Are we just to read them and leave?

Come back and tell us about the two different types of love.
I don't have a lot of time to read links, and I'd appreciate the knowledge.

Wondering

 

[rthom7]

I'm sorry rthome7.

How do you bring up this subject and then just disappear?

You have a very interesting idea - it's also very new to me.

Maybe you could explain these two types of love?
That would have been very interesting and edifying for both the male and female human species - we could learn about love - it's never enough.

HOW would you have liked this thread to proceed?
I could post a thousand links - do we then not discuss them?
Are we just to read them and leave?

Come back and tell us about the two different types of love.
I don't have a lot of time to read links, and I'd appreciate the knowledge.

Wondering

Greetings

We need to ask does the trinity express love differently and uniquely as a family does with maleness love and femaleness love....such terms do not refer to gender for God is not like man, but is a reference to the two love words in Scripture "Ahab" and "Ahabuh"

HYPOTHESIS: What does "ahad" mean?
INTRODUCTION: Nearly all people see "love" as a single concept. The Bible actually has "two" concepts for "love", and while both genders express love, the concepts relate to personality traits. The two Hebrew words for love are "ahad" and "ahabuh". Most translations translate both words as "love" but this is missing the Hebrew context of culture altogether. There is much to learn about Hebrew "love" if we study these two words carefully. See also study of "ahabuh" or "femaleness-love".
METHOD: All words in OT Hebrew studied. Where possible NT Greek is converted to equivalent OT Hebrew. The Greek word "agape" is the same as Hebrew "ahab" and thus studied here. It is not as some Pastors see, "agape" as some mystery love that only belonged to God.
PICTURE:

The pictograph reads "The Strong Person ! Behold! in the Home"
CONCLUSION: The Hebrew word "ahab" means "maleness-love". This is a personality trait mostly expressed by gender males, but sometimes also by gender females, and is the "love" that "provides, protects and guards".
PERSONAL APPLICATION: The Hebrew pictograph tells us an interesting concept into "maleness-love".
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Strongs 1,2,3,4. Here is the Hebrew word for "father". The strong one in the home. It is also the meaning for fruit, because Dad was the bread winner, the one who brought good things like food into the home.

Strongs 253,337, 338. This word is the "Strong Person! Behold!" in this case bellowing as a cow for a lost calf, or parents yelling for their lost child, or one who sighs strongly for something gone.

Strongs 1887, 1888, 1889. The person Behold! Meaning to draw attention to something important. This a direct contrast to the Hebrew word to "sigh" or "bellow".
....

Strongs 157. When the Strong Person flows in the home, such actions are known as his love. From this family concept, the strong person flowing in the home, is what we term "love" and is the Bible's definition of "love". Notice this father's actions in the home is a direct display of his love in the home. Thus the father's love
(1) protects
(2) provides
(3) shelters
(4) guards his family, keeping them safe.
The discussion will add further details to the "maleness-love" study, one that promises to surprise and amaze....! There are many verses to read and study...some 300+ of them...
DISCUSSION:
maleness-love theme


And

HYPOTHESIS: What does "ahabuh" mean?
INTRODUCTION: The study of maleness-love and femaleness-love should be interesting, especially to compare the two concepts of love. The Bible does not have a single word for "love", it has two words for love, "ahab" and "ahabuh". What do these two words mean ? And how do they relate to each other in contexts?
METHOD: All words in OT Hebrew studied. Where possible NT Greek (phileo) is converted to equivalent OT Hebrew.
PICTURE:

The pictograph reads "The strong Person Behold! in the Home, (relating to another) Person. Behold!"
CONCLUSION: The Hebrew word means "femaleness-love", not strictly related to sexual gender, but a personality trait to show fellowship love, nurture love, or marriage-like love.
PERSONAL APPLICATION: The application of this word is interesting. Femaleness love is relational as the pictograph of the word shows. Femaleness love is emotionally based, whereas maleness-love is physically based, as broad summations.
DISCUSSION:
For more details please read the discussions, of 100+ verses.
femaleness-love theme


Shalom

 

[rthom7]

Q2: What personality traits does love have?

In the Bible there are personality traits for maleness love and femaleness love. Some of these traits are listed and contrasted here:-
MALENESS-LOVE ................. FEMALENESS-LOVE
Ge 24:67 "relational" (2) .............. Ge 29:20 "relational" (1)
Ge 27:4 "loves meat" (4) ............... Pr 15:17 "cooks meals" (14)
De 7:13 "physically productive" (22) ............ 1Sa 18:3 "passionately emotional" (3)
Ge 22:2 "living sacrifce" (1) ............... Song 8:7 "faithful" (28)
Ge 29:18 "works hard" (7) .............. Song 8:6 "loyal and zealous"(27)
Ex 20:6 loves rules or commandments (14) ............... De 7:8 "networks" (2)
Ex 21:5 "fiercely loyal" (15) ................. Joh 21:17 "deeply loyal" (54)
De 10:15 "delights" (24) ................ Song 7:6 "delightful to behold" (25)
Le 19:18 "self-driven" (16) .............. Isa 63:9 "redemptive" or "caring" (29)
De 10:18 "helps strangers" (25) ............... Pr 10:12 "forgives transgressions"(13)
De 11:22 "mateship" (29) ................ Song 2:5 "love-sick" (20)
De 23:5 "lemonade effect" (35) .............. Ho 11:4 "overlooks the bad" (35)
De 30:6 "reprogrammed by circumcision" (36) ............. Mic 6:8 "mercy, and humility" (36)
De 30:20 "obeys" (38) ........................ Jer 31:3 "eternal" (32)
Pr 3:12 "corrects" or "disciplies" (115) ................ Re 3:19 "disciplines" (57)
Song 3:1 is "expressed sexually in bed" (143) ................. Pr 5:19 "emotionally loves" (12)
Eph 5:25 "loves thy wife" (259) ................. Song 2:7 "arouses slowly" (21)
Isa 1:23 "loves to give gifts" (147) ................. Lu 20:46 "attention and flattery" (43)
1Jo 4:18 is "brave", does not fear (401) ................. Joh 11:36 "cries" (47)
2Co 9:7 "gives generously" (251) ................... Mt 26:48 "kisses" (41)
1Pe 4:8 "forgives" (386) ..................... Ho 9:15 "has limits" (34)
Joh 15:12 "loves as Jesus loved" (233) .................. Zep 3:17 "joyous, with singing" (37)
Pr 12:1 "desires knowledge" (121) ...................... Song 2:4 "flags emotions" (19)
2Ch 26:10 loves "building" (67)
Es 2:17 "loves character" (70)
Ps 34:12 "desires life" (82)
Ps 37:28 "desires justice" (83)
Ps 40:16 "desires salvation" (85)
Ps 45:7 "desires righteousness" (86)
Pr 8:17 "loves mateship" (117)
Pr 8:21 does "future planning" (118)
Pr 17:17 shows "neighbourly-love" (127)
Pr 20:13 "hard-working" not "lazy" (132)
Lu 6:27 "befriends enemies" (207)
Lu 11:43 "desires pride-status" (214)
Ro 9:25 "loves even the unworthy" (246)
1Jo 4:8 1Co 13:4 "suffers long" (326)
1Jo 4:8 "comes from GOD" (289)
Looking at the similar and contrasting traits of these qualties of "love" makes for interesting comparision between gender male and gender female bodies. On the next webpage we will discuss what happens when "love" goes wrong...

Love theme

This might help each verse is linked

Shalom

 

[rthom7]

Here are some verses for all to consider

Isa 63:9 In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel "malak" messenger of his presence saved them: in his love "ahabuh" femaleness love, and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old.
10 But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them

This is a interesting verse, it links femaleness love for Israel coming from Elohiym, but one member is identified in the next verse, the holy Spirit, though as an agency the powers work through the agency of ghe Holy Spirit, hence the pronoun is "His work"

(2)

Jer 31:3 The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved "maleness love" thee with an everlasting "femaleness love" love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee.

Notice both forms of love are deeply considered by GOD

(3)

Ho 3:1 ¶ Then said the LORD unto me, Go yet, love a woman beloved of her friend, yet an adulteress, according to the "femaleness love" love of the LORD toward the children of Israel, who look to other gods "Elohiym's" , and love flagons of wine.

Those who speak of pagan views of GOD as Eohiym, here is a double plural for the Elohiym's who are considered showing femaleness love....

Shalom

 

[GodsGrace]

WOW!
Thanks rthome7.

Much to go through -
The post looks really great.

I would hope that most of us are here to learn new things.

Blessings
Wondering

 

[th1b.taylor]

31 “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” 32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Ephesians 5:31-32

Can anyone answer this question that was asked previously concerning this mystery?

Who is the mother and father Christ leaves to be joined with His wife?

Furthermore who is the mother and father Adam leaves to be joined with his wife?


JLB

No, you are asking foolish questions.

Hi Taylor,
You say:
I AM NOT being stupid when I say that any couple that enters into a physical relationship is then, in the eye of God, married.

Do you mean that it's not necessary to be married?

Wondering

Yes mam, a marriage license is an invention of governments to collect one more tax and has nothing to do with what God has put in place. The very idea is despised because f our lack of moral fiber today. I have, from my conversion, held that the worst invention of mankind is the back seat of the automobile. Couple that with the near total lack of Early Moral Teaching from the Word of God and there grows a nightmare.

There was neither license nor pastor to marry adam to Eve. And when Cain was driven out and he took a relative to wife, there was no ceremony. Jacob married Leah when he went into the bed, in the dark, and they coupled with each other and thus he ended up with two wives. This is what god set in place.

 

[Edward]

No, you are asking foolish questions.

Yes mam, a marriage license is an invention of governments to collect one more tax and has nothing to do with what God has put in place. The very idea is despised because f our lack of moral fiber today. I have, from my conversion, held that the worst invention of mankind is the back seat of the automobile. Couple that with the near total lack of Early Moral Teaching from the Word of God and there grows a nightmare.

There was neither license nor pastor to marry adam to Eve. And when Cain was driven out and he took a relative to wife, there was no ceremony. Jacob married Leah when he went into the bed, in the dark, and they coupled with each other and thus he ended up with two wives. This is what god set in place.

That makes all sorts of sense. Dangit! I put my foot in my mouth, lol. I've quipped on Solomon before, about it doesn't seem wise to have 700 wives...and how many wives have I had?! (Not even close to 700 but way more than enough to be cracking on him). Sorry, Solomon...

 

[th1b.taylor]

That makes all sorts of sense. Dangit! I put my foot in my mouth, lol. I've quipped on Solomon before, about it doesn't seem wise to have 700 wives...and how many wives have I had?! (Not even close to 700 but way more than enough to be cracking on him). Sorry, Solomon...

I have never posted my lesson on this subject without offending someone. It applies to far too many of us, including the teacher.

 

[GodsGrace]

Yes mam, a marriage license is an invention of governments to collect one more tax and has nothing to do with what God has put in place. The very idea is despised because f our lack of moral fiber today. I have, from my conversion, held that the worst invention of mankind is the back seat of the automobile. Couple that with the near total lack of Early Moral Teaching from the Word of God and there grows a nightmare.

There was neither license nor pastor to marry adam to Eve. And when Cain was driven out and he took a relative to wife, there was no ceremony. Jacob married Leah when he went into the bed, in the dark, and they coupled with each other and thus he ended up with two wives. This is what god set in place.

A marriage license belongs to the govt. it's just another way to collect some money. I agree.
But MARRIAGE was invented by God. Adam and Eve were married by God. He gave His okay. In the history of the Church (capital C), they were the first couple.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say that the govt has no business changing what God has put into place. What He put into place is that marriage is meant for the joining of a male to a female - and not anything else.

I do think that marriage is good to bind a society. To keep it functioning properly. To be a protection for children - although today this does not exist anymore anyway, due to divorce.

So Cain married a relative. But the DNA of man was so much more pure back then. And, anyway, what choice did he have? None. But if this was done today, you know what would happen!

I think marriage, as an institution, is good. Outside of that, anything between two people is for them and God alone.
No one can know the heart but God.

Wondering

 

[th1b.taylor]

A marriage license belongs to the govt. it's just another way to collect some money. I agree.
But MARRIAGE was invented by God. Adam and Eve were married by God. He gave His okay. In the history of the Church (capital C), they were the first couple.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say that the govt has no business changing what God has put into place. What He put into place is that marriage is meant for the joining of a male to a female - and not anything else.

I do think that marriage is good to bind a society. To keep it functioning properly. To be a protection for children - although today this does not exist anymore anyway, due to divorce.

So Cain married a relative. But the DNA of man was so much more pure back then. And, anyway, what choice did he have? None. But if this was done today, you know what would happen!

I think marriage, as an institution, is good. Outside of that, anything between two people is for them and God alone.
No one can know the heart but God.

Wondering

I, so, agree but people, this commentator included, have grown to handle such precious matters so lightly. Men and today women run around the world having, the Worlds terminology, affairs and after the quick thrill, they believe there is no consequence and nothing can be further from the truth.

My wife and I both were spiritually dirty before we were married, we were both divorced and required repentance and the forgiveness of Jesus and a new beginning. But the people of the world jump from one bed to another as if nothing matters because they are not paying that tax and there is no, world declared, obligation to the, then, abandoned partner. But you see, there is a great lesson, no some great lessons, to be learned from the Judah and Tamar coupling, as told in the scriptures. And still we do not teach our young how to handle these matters.

My granddaughter, Ashley, and her young man, Zach, were both raised by Bible based ideology and they both were virgins on their wedding night. Their marriage, done God's way is every bit a God blessed union, just as mine and my wife's is. I would see that for every young man and woman in this world, could I. But except we learn to accept God and God's ways, it will not, often, be thus and people do not want to admit they sinned in the Back Seat!

Sad! Without repentance, there is no forgiveness.

 

[JLB]

A reminder of my first post in this thread:

I like this study, but I stay within the boundary's of "anthropomorphic" study.

anthropomorphic -
ascribing human form or attributes to a being or thing not human, especially to a deity.


So, I will engage with you in this study "anthropomophically" speaking so as to assign "human attributes" to a Deity for the purpose of better understanding what the bible says.

You are willfully making the same error that gives birth to all heresy JLB. No scripture, collection of scripture nor any grouping of scripture ca ever be fully understood without the light of all scripture shining on it. You are isolating a scripture from scripture and that is the same thing that caused Jonestown, Waco and so many more. You cannot do that to the word of God.

More nonsense with no scripture.

A simple study of the scriptures and how they all interrelate, and confirm each other is vital to understanding.

26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. Genesis 1:26-27


Can you answer a simple question from the scriptures?

31 “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.”32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. Ephesians 5:31

Who was the father and mother Christ left to be joined to His wife?


Denying the most simple and plain words such as "image" and "likeness", thus recreating your own version of truth, is the foundation of error.

You should know better than to make such an argument, especially since your position is based on an unwarranted assumption and makes the Bible say something it does not say. It is only your opinion.

http://www.equip.org/bible_answers/does-god-have-a-gender/

https://carm.org/what-is-gods-gender

You going to have to do better than quoting commentary and posting links from websites.

Use scripture.

If you don't have anything from the scriptures to add, then what does your "understanding" come from?

Mankind has similar features as God, being created in His image and likeness.

God the Father, is described as "seated" upon His throne:

This to me describes a body, similar to a man, that has legs and a torso, in which He sits on His Throne, with Jesus seated next to Him.

He is described as having hair and a head.


“I watched till thrones were put in place, And the Ancient of Days was seated;
His garment was white as snow, And the hair of His head was like pure wool.
His throne was a fiery flame, Its wheels a burning fire;
Daniel 7:9



JLB

 

[dianegcook]

In the most ancient of the rare Old Syriac copies, the Siniatic Palimpsest, from the 4th or 5th century, found in the Covenant of St. Catherine in the Sinia by Mrs. Anes Lewis and transcribed by Syriac Professor R.L. Bensly of Cambridge University in 1892, the words of Jesus in John 14:26 read: But She—the Spirit-the Paraclete whom He will send to you-my Father-in my name—She will teach you everything; She will remind you of that which I have told you."



- See more at: http://www.adishakti.org/_/feminine_gender_of_the_holy_spirit.htm#sthash.nKjpRe0K.dpuf


Greetings,

I need some help showing the female personality of the Holy Spirit. This link shows that the most ancient Syriac manuscripts show in John 14:17 or John 14:26 , that the Holy Spirit should be translated as "she" will lead you into all truth, rather than Greek manuscripts as "He" will lead into all truth. Later versions of the Syriac manuscripts are translations of the Greek, so it is difficult to unravel the real evidence of truth....

from the OT Hebrew the Holy Spirit is written as "ruwach" and this is feminine in case...so that should settle the matter.

However when translations were made into Greek, following the authority of the LXX the first translation of Hebrew into Greek by 70 scholars, the Greek word pneuma was chosen, which is masculine or neutral in case, hence the John 14:17 shows the pronoun "he" for the Greek translation.

Many people in the theories of faith are losing heart over this issue, hence I was hoping to find ancient Syriac interlinear passages of John 14:17 showing the pronoun "she" used instead of "He". Does any such examples exist on the Internet?

I welcome any help or general comments on this theme.
Shalom

Hi there
I did not read all the posts, I know, , lol
I had a conversation with someone before about this....
I look to Proverbs....
Wisdom....
Pro.2:2-4
Incline thine ear unto wisdom....
If thou seeketh her as silver, and searcheth for her as for hid treasure.....
Pro.4:5-13
Get wisdom, get understanding, forget it not, neither decline from the words of my mouth.
Forsake her not, and she shall preserve thee, love her , and she shall keep thee.....
She shall give to thine head an ornament of grace, a crown of glory shall she deliver to thee.

Pro.8:1-36
Doth not wisdom cry? And understanding put forth her voice ?
She Standish in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.
She crieth at the gates at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors,
Unto you, O men, I call, and My voice is to the sons of man.
Hear, for I speak of excellent things, and the opening of my lips shall be right things..
For my mouth shall speak truth, and wickedness is an abomination to my lips......
.....
22, The Lord possessed me in the beginning of His way, before His works of old....
I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was....
When there were no depths, I was brought forth...
When He prepared the heavens, I was there.....
When He gave to the sea His decree, that the waters should not pass His commandment, when He appointed the foundations of the earth,
Then I was by Him, as one brought up with Him, and I was daily His delight, rejoicing always before Him......
Now she may be a metaphor, as one that names their ship/boat after a female.

 

[rthom7]

Thanks dianegcook you write well with good examples of wisdom being female, does this also mean wisdom is a simile of the Holy Spirit ?

Shalom

 

[smaller]

Ultimately, the subjects of male/female as it pertains to theology and God/The Godhead are much easier to understand.

Male: Objective portion
Female: Subjective portion

Both Aspects are quite firmly entrenched in the Godhead.

 

[dianegcook]

Thanks dianegcook you write well with good examples of wisdom being female, does this also mean wisdom is a simile of the Holy Spirit ?

Shalom

Hi there
I really don't know if wisdom is a female gender per se, just as a boat named Jenny isn't female.
Yes, I think wisdom is a simile of the Holy Spirit from what I read.
Pro.3:15-18
She is more precious than rubies, and all the things thou canst desire are not to be compared to her.
Length of days is in her right hand, and in her left hand riches and honor.
Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace.

She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her, and happy is every one that retaineth her.

The sword of the Spirit, is the Word of God. Eph.6:17

Is not the Word of God wisdom?

The Holy Spirit is God's Spirit....

My take on it, anyhow...

 

[JLB]

Hi there
I really don't know if wisdom is a female gender per se, just as a boat named Jenny isn't female.
Yes, I think wisdom is a simile of the Holy Spirit from what I read.
Pro.3:15-18
She is more precious than rubies, and all the things thou canst desire are not to be compared to her.
Length of days is in her right hand, and in her left hand riches and honor.
Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace.

She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her, and happy is every one that retaineth her.

The sword of the Spirit, is the Word of God. Eph.6:17

Is not the Word of God wisdom?

The Holy Spirit is God's Spirit....

My take on it, anyhow...

What is your take on Paul's mystery?

31 “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.”32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. Ephesians 5:31-32


Anthropomorphically speaking, who is Christ's father and mother that He leaves to be joined to His wife?


JLB

 

[Edward]

I do agree with Brother Taylor's assessment of what constitutes marriage, the coupling and joining of the two and not a piece of paper. Scripture backs that up too, I see.

This, to no one in particular, but a thought of mine...I don't think this is a good thread for Brother's & Sister's to be discussing. It's none of our business, nor is it salvific to discuss. The discussion on types of love is edifying however.

This topic is on shaky ground to begin with. If the Holy Spirit is feminine, then that would (?) make Her God's wife? This may or may not shine light on why the only unforgivable sin, is one concerning the Holy Spirit... Be careful Brothers and Sisters!