Being Perfect

[elijah23]

Jesus told us we needed to be perfect. I think that frightens some people half to death, but what is there to be frightened about? We need to learn a little discipline is all. Right?

 

[Sinthesis]

Wrong. Islamists demonstrate far more discipline than Christians, but to no good end.

 

[elijah23]

Wrong. Islamists demonstrate far more discipline than Christians, but to no good end.

Please don’t tell me that self-discipline is a bad thing.

 

[Sinthesis]

Please don’t tell me that self-discipline is a bad thing.

Obviously, sometimes self-discipline can be a bad thing. The point is that contrary to your OP, 'discipline' is not 'all' that is 'needed' to be 'perfect'. I suggest you do a Bible word study on 'perfect' before you error again.;)

 

[elijah23]

Obviously, sometimes self-discipline can be a bad thing. The point is that contrary to your OP, 'discipline' is not 'all' that is 'needed' to be 'perfect'. I suggest you do a Bible word study on 'perfect' before you error again.;)

What excuse have we not to be perfect?

 

[Sinthesis]

What excuse have we not to be perfect?

Please define "perfect".

 

[elijah23]

Please define "perfect".

I haven’t graduated from life yet and I am not the Lord, so I can only tell you what I think.

We need to be chaste.
We need to be humble.
We need to be sober.
We need to love the Lord with all our hearts, minds, and souls. This is the great commandment.
We need to love our neighbors as ourselves.

 

[Alabaster]

Jesus told us we needed to be perfect. I think that frightens some people half to death, but what is there to be frightened about? We need to learn a little discipline is all. Right?

Fear not, but press on!

Philippians 3:12 NLT
I don’t mean to say that I have already achieved these things or that I have already reached perfection. But I press on to possess that perfection for which Christ Jesus first possessed me.

 

[jasoncran]

Jesus told us we needed to be perfect. I think that frightens some people half to death, but what is there to be frightened about? We need to learn a little discipline is all. Right?

no, while we should exhibit self-control, but we all those sins or disposotions that own us and no matter what we cant shake that sin. the lord has to take that from us.

 

[mondar]

There is no one perfect, but the triune God.

 

[glorydaz]

I believe being "perfect" has to do with our position in Christ.

For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

 

[Alabaster]

I believe being "perfect" has to do with our position in Christ.

Exactly! When God looks upon us, His kids, He only sees us through the filter of the blood of His Son---as perfected already.

 

[Elijah674]

no, while we should exhibit self-control, but we all those sins or disposotions that own us and no matter what we cant shake that sin. the lord has to take that from us.

Then.. you are saying that we will be perfect??

Is that not what Elijah said?? (the other one ;))

 

[watchman F]

no, while we should exhibit self-control, but we all those sins or disposotions that own us and no matter what we cant shake that sin. the lord has to take that from us.

And that is what He died for to take away our sin.

 

[watchman F]

Exactly! When God looks upon us, His kids, He only sees us through the filter of the blood of His Son---as perfected already.

This is a cop out. God has commanded that we live holy, righteous, perfected live. Moreover He has empowered us to do so through faith in christ and the empowerment of His Spirit. If we live in disobediance to this command there will be consequences.

 

[Alabaster]

This is a cop out. God has commanded that we live holy, righteous, perfected live. Moreover He has empowered us to do so through faith in christ and the empowerment of His Spirit. If we live in disobediance to this command there will be consequences.

Cop-out? For what? It's the truth that God sees us as already perfect and holy. He sees what He has planned for us.

As King's kids, we walk with Him daily and follow Him.

 

[elijah23]

no, while we should exhibit self-control, but we all those sins or disposotions that own us and no matter what we cant shake that sin. the lord has to take that from us.

Hi, Jasoncran, how are you?

Here we are discussing the same old issue.

I grant that we need the Lord’s help to accomplish this, but I still believe it needs to be accomplished:

From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matt 4:17 RSV

 

[elijah23]

There is no one perfect, but the triune God.

Jesus said we need to be perfect as our Father in heaven is perfect.

 

[elijah23]

I believe being "perfect" has to do with our position in Christ.

I believe we are not perfect until we stop sinning.

 

[lamplady]

Jesus told us we needed to be perfect. I think that frightens some people half to death, but what is there to be frightened about? We need to learn a little discipline is all. Right?

We can only STRIVE to be perfect; we can only BE perfect when God changes us ...