Bible Study Song of Solomon by Jon Courson (Applegate Fellowship), Oregon

[Sparkey]

INTRODUCTION:
One of my favorite Bible study tools is the BlueletterBible. It can be found here: BlueletterBible vs. 3. Within that study tool there is an abundance of helps. A veritable myriad of helps. One of them, a audio commentary has become a favorite of mine. Jon Courson (now deceased) of Applegate Christian Fellowship, Jacksonville, OR is the author/speaker.

I was over in the Talk With The Staff / Report a site issue forum and shared an AUDIO file about the Song of Solomon. I casually mentioned that it was a love letter from our Jesus to the whole church. Here is part of the reply:

I agree as the Song of Solomon is a love letter to the Church that many do just not understand. This would be a good topic in the Bible Study forum if you feel led to start a thread on this and share that audio as it is a great teaching.
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TAB 1: Song of Solomon, 2 Text
I like to have the Bible open as I study and have a LINK ready (for your convenience):
BibleGateway Song of Solomon, Chapter 2 [KJV]

But before we click and start the audio file that goes along with it --there is only one way to hear this: Prayerfully. Remove your sandals for we are about to go onto Holy Ground. Ask Him, as I am now, to be with us, each one --and to minister by His Spirit to our secret places. Jesus says that the Spirit of God is like the wind. “Pneuma” (pronounced nooma) is the Greek word for the Holy Spirit, the breath of God. We let (allow) the Word of Truth become a seed in our hearts; it continues to grow for always and ever.

"Come, Lord Jesus. You are welcome here."

TAB 2: Song of Solomon, 2 Audio
Song of Solomon Chapter 2, Jon Courson.

There's more to listen to here than just the 2nd chapter but I have especially loved the 2nd chapter. Keep in mind that it is as "for_his_glory" said, A love song written to the church. That's us and to all those who have an ear to hear.

It's been playing in the background while I listen and write here. Feel free to comment and reply. I'd love to hear from others who are of a similar mind. Be ye as the 10 wise virgins and store up the Oil which is the Holy Spirit, forming Christ in us.

 

[Brock]

Jon Courson (now deceased)

Hey, brother I watch Jon Courson's sermons often. From my knowledge he hasn't passed away. Is there anyway you can confirm this?

God Bless

 

[for_his_glory]

I would suggest everyone who replies to this thread to first listen to the audio if you have never understood the Song of Solomon.

The song of Solomon is a love song written by Solomon and abounding in metaphors and oriental imagery. Oriental means of a pearl or other jewel, not that of the Orient Asia. Historically it depicts the wooing and wedding of a shepherdess by King Solomon and the joys and heartaches of wedded love.

Allegorically, it depicts Israel as God's espoused bride, Hosea 2:19, 20, and the Church being the Bride of Christ. As human life finds its highest fulfillment in the love of man and woman, so spiritual life finds its fulfillment in the love of God for His people and Christ for His church.

The book is arranged like scenes in a drama with three main speakers: the bride (Shulamite), the king Solomon and a chorus (daughters of Jerusalem). If we keep all of this in mind then we can start to understand the love song written to the church.

 

[Sparkey]

Hey, brother I watch Jon Courson's sermons often. From my knowledge he hasn't passed away. Is there anyway you can confirm this?

God Bless

RETRACTION:
Thank-you. I went on a fact checking journey with The Google and found my mistake. It was his son, Peter-John that passed last February 2019.

I'll have to renew my plans to travel to Oregon as I would love to attend one of his teaching services.

/embarassed: (thankfully --rumors of his death are premature)

Also, nice to meet a fellow traveler, Brock!

The book is arranged like scenes in a drama with three main speakers: the bride (Shulamite), the king Solomon and a chorus (daughters of Jerusalem). If we keep all of this in mind then we can start to understand the love song written to the church.

The whole bible (in my view) is sprinkled with allegories and metaphors that allude to a very special sacred-secret. There is a mystery hidden throughout all 66 books. It starts in the beginning with a breathtaking first glimpse. Consider the intimacy of the act and first touch of God-breath blown gently into the very nostril of man. Can you imagine a more gentle, more intimate touch? The recipient was made of reddish dirt / dust. The Pneuma of God brought life that day. The Holy Spirit continues to breathe life this day. New Life --and-- a Promise. This is the calling by which we are all called.

Of all the metaphors and allegories (and there are thousands upon thousands, if not millions) in creation there is one that was chosen to represent above all others the purpose of God. Our Father saw what His only-begotten did. You've heard that Jesus was the 2nd man, virgin-born, not of man but of the Spirit. I believe that we are participants in a narrative between The Father and His Son, Jesus the Christ. God gave us life by His Spirit and by His spirit, formed His Only Begotten in the womb. Truly this speaks of a marriage made in heaven.
See 1 Cor 2:12 and 2 Cor 1:12.

/praying: "Father, You are welcome here. Prepare us for Your son who endured the cross and considered us his promised JOY" (see Hebrews 12:2). "Continue with and in us, to show us how to turn our eyes upon the One worthy and help our gaze to fix upon Jesus this day."

Allegorically, it depicts Israel as God's espoused bride, Hosea 2:19-20, and the Church being the Bride of Christ.

Thank you, for_His_glory. The prophecy found in Hosea, chapter 2 is one of my favorites. For the purpose of this study, I'd like to call attention to [CLICK-->]Hosea 2:16.

The promise is familiar. Loosely translated we are told God will accomplish the work. He said (in Hosea 2:14 KJV), "I will allure her, and bring her into the wilderness and speak comfortably unto her."

So next time you find yourself in a dry, hostile place like a spiritual wilderness let me encourage you to look upward. It just could be that you are about to be 'allured' by God. Wicked men allure to destruction; God (as above) allures to a punishment, repentance and restoration. The primitive root of the Hebrew word for 'allure' means to open up or to make roomy. Used figuratively, it can mean to 'causatively make simple'.

It is a step toward a wedding proposal, I say. A necessary step. (see Hosea 2:19) but shhhhhhh.... this too is a very sacred secret, but one that Paul was sent to give us clearly: 2 Cor 11:2, Eph 5:26-27 and Rev 14:4.

Notice also in the very teaching of Jesus, the Messiah. In response to a question from the Pharisees about divorce, Jesus instructed: [Mar 10:5-8 KJV] Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.
The two shall become one.

This is part of the prayer of Christ Jesus:
John 17:21 King James Version (KJV)
That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

 

[Sparkey]

Cast your bread upon the water . . .

This bite of wisdom, like the Song, also comes through Solomon and can be found in the 11th chapter of Ecclesiastes. Have you opened the Bible to look at the Song of Solomon yet? Did it whet your appetite? Once, after reading in the Song, I did a mini-study on raisins and found that the Shulamite was likely asking for apples and raisin-cakes for her sustenance, for her nourishment, when she was weak (sick) with love.

If you have received a bit of wisdom while contemplating the Poem of Solomon, kindly share it here that we may also bless God for our communion, shared jointly. Let us open the Eastern door and cause Elijah's cup to again be full.

We CAN hasten the Day of the Lord. See 2 Peter 3:12 for a quick proof of that bold statement. We can. Part of the how of it all is found in the Song. The Daughters may join in the song. We are allowed and invited to participate in the preparation of the feast for Him in each other. (It's called joining in the ministry [of The Christ]). You might just be a raisin-cake given to His Bride, who knows.

"And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

In any case, feel free to cast your bread here or other places of many waters (many peoples). You've heard the song, "Bringing in the sheaves"? Why do we thresh and grind grain? Bread. Manna. Christ. Did you know what was in store when you were first called?

/Shalom

If your with me so far, then here is a tiny reward. Another poem. This time by Kahlil Gibran, entitled: "On Love"

 

[for_his_glory]

Hosea Chapter two:
vs. 1-5 Israel's sin of Spiritual adultery
vs. 6-13 God's judgement
vs. 14-23 The restoration of Israel.

IMO the pivotal is vs. 16.

Hosea 2:16 And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.

First we need to understand the meaning of the word Baali and Ishi.

Baali/Baal means, my lord/my master, a common name for all heathen gods, had in common practice been used also of Yahweh being Lord and Master. In the above scripture the demand that Yahweh be no longer called Baali, but to call Yahweh "Ishi" (my deliver, salvation, my husband). The Israelites later abandoned the use of Baali/Baal for Yahweh.

Notice it says "at that day", meaning a future day as Hosea looked to that day when Israel would quit worshiping the Baal gods and start being faithful to Yahweh as "her God" and "her Master".

We see Hosea, a prophet of God trying to bring back Israels relationship with God and now in the NT the dispensation of God's grace carries over through Christ Jesus to the conversion of the Jews first and then the Gentiles. At that day Hosea says they will no longer call Yahweh Baali (my lord/master), but will call Yahweh "my husband" as with the foundation of the first church on the day of Pentecost, where around 3000 were baptized in the Holy Spirit, the Bride of Christ is preparing herself for the union of her Husband.

My beloved is mine, and I am his, Song of Solomon 2:16.

 

[for_his_glory]

Cast your bread upon the water . . .

This bite of wisdom, like the Song, also comes through Solomon and can be found in the 11th chapter of Ecclesiastes. Have you opened the Bible to look at the Song of Solomon yet? Did it whet your appetite? Once, after reading in the Song, I did a mini-study on raisins and found that the Shulamite was likely asking for apples and raisin-cakes for her sustenance, for her nourishment, when she was weak (sick) with love.

If you have received a bit of wisdom while contemplating the Poem of Solomon, kindly share it here that we may also bless God for our communion, shared jointly. Let us open the Eastern door and cause Elijah's cup to again be full.

We CAN hasten the Day of the Lord. See 2 Peter 3:12 for a quick proof of that bold statement. We can. Part of the how of it all is found in the Song. The Daughters may join in the song. We are allowed and invited to participate in the preparation of the feast for Him in each other. (It's called joining in the ministry [of The Christ]). You might just be a raisin-cake given to His Bride, who knows.

"And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

In any case, feel free to cast your bread here or other places of many waters (many peoples). You've heard the song, "Bringing in the sheaves"? Why do we thresh and grind grain? Bread. Manna. Christ. Did you know what was in store when you were first called?

/Shalom

If your with me so far, then here is a tiny reward. Another poem. This time by Kahlil Gibran, entitled: "On Love"

Thank you for sharing that poem as there is so much insight within it. I really hope others will come and share as this is such an important topic as I really do not think to many actually understood the Song of Solomon.

 

[Sparkey]

Thank you for sharing . . .

It's mutual, thank you also. I'm still chewing on your post. Will mull it over now. Do I sound like a cow with cud? It's an apt description and this is HOW milk is formed (for the most part), well a bovine's milk, anyways.

IMO the pivotal is vs. 16.

Hosea 2:16 And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.

First we need to understand the meaning of the word Baali and Ishi.

I would agree completely. That one statement is breathtakingly clear. Your conclusions are correct. "IT IS THE LORD! IT IS THE LORD", I say, "it is the LORD," translated (our Ishi is here). He promised (foretold) and His word is true an inviolate. Matthew 18:20 For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them."

Sometime remind me to talk about the man-child seen in the Revelation of Jesus as told to The Beloved, John. I am overflowing as this exceeds me muchly.

I was speaking on this topic in a Jewish forum many, many years ago and had noticed and commented that Adam spoke of the woman he had been given, after naming the animals; he was both ish and isha. I asked about the Hebrew meanings and the reply came, "You don't actually speak Hebrew, do you?" and I never got a straight answer.

I suppressed my reply, "Your Yiddish ain't ancient Hebrew either," and remained silenced.

 

[Sparkey]

TAB 1: Song of Solomon, 2 Text
I like to have the Bible open as I study and have a LINK ready (for your convenience):
BibleGateway Song of Solomon, Chapter 2 [KJV]

TAB 2: Song of Solomon, 2 Audio
Song of Solomon Chapter 2, Jon Courson.

The book is arranged like scenes in a drama with three main speakers: the bride (Shulamite), the king Solomon and a chorus (daughters of Jerusalem). If we keep all of this in mind then we can start to understand the love song written to the church.

Good observation. It is critical to our understanding to be able to recognize the three different changes in VOICE.

And the language of the song (poem) is confusing because of a pronoun/antecedent issue. I'm not sure if that is an inherent issue while translating Hebrew to English but in many cases the reader of this book must infer who is speaking from the context.

One suggestion would be to prayerfully read it a thousand times or so over a period of 40 - 50 years to get the idea. But for those of us who can't wait there are versions online that include VOICE indicators such as "BRIDE" and/or "BRIDEGROOM" or "DAUGHTERS". but they are not found in the original.


I've picked an example by way of illustration. It's the part that goes something like, "Do not awaken love until [he/she/it] chooses/pleases/it so desires." If you were a publisher of this poem and it was your job to color mark the voice changes would this verse be pink, blue or neutral/grey?

The task here would be to see if we can determine which party is speaking. We have three choices. Male Voice, female Voice or chorus. The Hebrew does not demand one over the other but the context and concept of the message does suggest that it's the Male Voice. Imagine the early morning riser on the day of the honeymoon. The couple had just consummated their union. One of them gets up early (and I'm taking liberties here -- drawing conclusions that are not demanded) and says, "Don't wake my spouse until they please."

The phrase is found 3 times and we might glean some insight later by way of further examination but for now we're talking about VOICE in Song of Solomon 2:7.

In the setting of the stage department, it appears that the chapter begins with the voice of the BRIDE.

2 As the lily among thorns, so [is] my love among the daughters.
3 As the apple tree among the trees of the wood, so [is] my beloved among the sons. I sat down under his shadow with great delight, and his fruit [was] sweet to my taste.
4 He brought me to the banqueting house, and his banner over me [was] love.
5 Stay me with flagons, comfort me with apples: for I [am] sick of love.
6 His left hand [is] under my head, and his right hand doth embrace me.
_________
7 I charge you, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, by the roes, and by the hinds of the field, that ye stir not up, nor awake [my] love, till he please.

For comparison, we may choose the scholars/authors of the NIV as a source of translation because of the footnote (fn) marks denoting pronouns and voice:

1 She (fn: or 'He'): I am a rose (fn: Probably a member of the crocus family) of Sharon, a lily of the valleys.

2 He: Like a lily among thorns is my darling among the young women. ​

3 She: Like an apple (fn: Or possibly apricot; here and elsewhere in Song of Songs) tree among the trees of the forest is my beloved among the young men. I delight to sit in his shade, and his fruit is sweet to my taste.
4 Let him lead me to the banquet hall, and let his banner over me be love.
5 Strengthen me with raisins, refresh me with apples, for I am faint with love.
6 His left arm is under my head, and his right arm embraces me.
7 Daughters of Jerusalem, I charge you by the gazelles and by the does of the field: Do not arouse or awaken love until it so desires.

As you can see, a literal understanding can be problematic. My suggestion is to read or listen while in a quiet place and to invite the Holy Spirit (whose job it is) to give you insights. There is little room for dogma here but then it is indeed a book of poetry and the instruction from on High is gentle and flowing rather than harsh and/or firm.

Bonus link for scholars
The Interlinear version gives us a better look at what the translators worked with.
(remember to read Hebrew from right to left)

Song of Solomon 2, Interlinear Bible // biblehub.com

 

[for_his_glory]

It's mutual, thank you also. I'm still chewing on your post. Will mull it over now. Do I sound like a cow with cud? It's an apt description and this is HOW milk is formed (for the most part), well a bovine's milk, anyways.

Milk always comes before the meat so let that cow chew its cud,

 

[for_his_glory]

Sometime remind me to talk about the man-child seen in the Revelation of Jesus as told to The Beloved, John. I am overflowing as this exceeds me muchly.

I would love to discuss Rev 12 as many do not realize who the man child is. I will let you start a new thread on that topic.

 

[Sparkey]

I would love to discuss Rev 12 as many do not realize who the man child is. I will let you start a new thread on that topic.

I invite/allow my best friend to hold my hand tightly when I journey into the realms of Eschatology. My mind is pretty set in my way. My word, "Chew" = analyse, break down, tear apart into the tiny bits. After analysis comes synthesis, the putting together again. I'm an analyst and have been formally trained in it and given the title, 'IT Systems Analyst' because titles are cheaper than raises. I'm a knowledge seeker too, again, by nature. It was part of what was put into me when I was knit together in the Womb. But compared to Eschatology, computer networking and Systems Analysis is a breeze.

Jesus spoke to say, "If you see the fig tree putting forth its blossoms know that summer is near," and for me, it's okay to know that we are getting close, that our days are numbered but even that is difficult. What I find easier is to try to know what I do not know.

Respectfully, I am inclined to decline your gracious invitation. I will ask to see what our Master says. It's hard to say, "no".

 

[Sparkey]

The reference to the man-child was included because the "Child" is the natural outcome of the marriage. It fits well within the context of the conversation that flows between the Bride and her Husband. They (the Bride Company, also known as the Church and Jesus, the Christ) are the ones who form the child.

This topic is, in my opinion, the pivotal point of the entire Word. If we shift our view and try to stretch our minds to know that we are 'eavesdropping' on a conversation/narrative between Father/God who is Spirit and Son who became 'man' and know that we are even given a glimpse into the most private, intimate of the Most High and Jesus, at the time of his greatest trial, as well as peeks into the unspoken things... yeah. It is as you have said, a "pivotal point" upon which hangs the entire Word of God. Permissions are given because this one we call, "LORD" is also the WORD, the Logos of God. This is the One that the Prophets have said will be called "husband." We are free indeed. He whispers into us. He, being the Kadosh (Holy) Pneuma (Breath) of God. That's the job of the Holy Spirit. Teacher. He will bring us into all knowledge. We are promised that we shall be like him for we shall see him eye to eye. And NOW? We are speaking of seeing the one whom no man may see. The one that the Hand of God itself had to protect Moses from as He passed and he was allowed only to see the afterglow, the hinter-parts. That kind of Glory. He has said, and this is another whisper, "As I live, saith the Lord, My glory shall be seen upon the earth." It is in the Prayer we were taught, that His will be done on earth as it is done in heaven.

I believe that we are to become willing to decidedly open ourselves to each other. To fly the BANNER of love (see the Song of Solomon)

--> He brought me to the wine chamber (the chamber of JOY) Song of Solomon 2:4 translates this to Banquet - but it is the wine chamber (see Hebrew 'yayin') - foreshadowing His first miracle at the wedding feast and, I hope, our first miracle together - the JOY that comes from the waters as the Spirit hovers in anticipation, like we see at the very moment of Creation itself in Gen 1:2, with the Spirit of God hovering --- within (did we feel the baby kick?) yes, the wine and water... such a hidden treasure, I can not but help but adore HIM. You see? He placed his banner of love over me, over us.

He comes! As a roe and we may even now see him bounding over the mountains.

 

[for_his_glory]

Good observation. It is critical to our understanding to be able to recognize the three different changes in VOICE.

And the language of the song (poem) is confusing because of a pronoun/antecedent issue. I'm not sure if that is an inherent issue while translating Hebrew to English but in many cases the reader of this book must infer who is speaking from the context.

One suggestion would be to prayerfully read it a thousand times or so over a period of 40 - 50 years to get the idea. But for those of us who can't wait there are versions online that include VOICE indicators such as "BRIDE" and/or "BRIDEGROOM" or "DAUGHTERS". but they are not found in the original.


I've picked an example by way of illustration. It's the part that goes something like, "Do not awaken love until [he/she/it] chooses/pleases/it so desires." If you were a publisher of this poem and it was your job to color mark the voice changes would this verse be pink, blue or neutral/grey?

The task here would be to see if we can determine which party is speaking. We have three choices. Male Voice, female Voice or chorus. The Hebrew does not demand one over the other but the context and concept of the message does suggest that it's the Male Voice. Imagine the early morning riser on the day of the honeymoon. The couple had just consummated their union. One of them gets up early (and I'm taking liberties here -- drawing conclusions that are not demanded) and says, "Don't wake my spouse until they please."

The phrase is found 3 times and we might glean some insight later by way of further examination but for now we're talking about VOICE in Song of Solomon 2:7.

In the setting of the stage department, it appears that the chapter begins with the voice of the BRIDE.



For comparison, we may choose the scholars/authors of the NIV as a source of translation because of the footnote (fn) marks denoting pronouns and voice:



As you can see, a literal understanding can be problematic. My suggestion is to read or listen while in a quiet place and to invite the Holy Spirit (whose job it is) to give you insights. There is little room for dogma here but then it is indeed a book of poetry and the instruction from on High is gentle and flowing rather than harsh and/or firm.

Bonus link for scholars
The Interlinear version gives us a better look at what the translators worked with.
(remember to read Hebrew from right to left)

Song of Solomon 2, Interlinear Bible // biblehub.com

Song of Solomon 8:4 I charge you, O daughters of Jerusalem, that ye stir not up, nor awake my love, until he please.

Adding vs. 1-3 I see this as the daughters of Jerusalem being the church as in sisters and brothers that are charged to prepare them self as a Bride that will be pleasing to her Groom before the union is made as one. I also compare this to Colossians 3:1-4.

The voice speaking in these four verses would be the female (sister) talking to her (male) brother as they have the same mother (nurturing). The color would be pink and blue mixed together that makes the color purple as I see purple as being majestic, which it will be when we are gathered up to the Lord when He returns.

 

[for_his_glory]

I invite/allow my best friend to hold my hand tightly when I journey into the realms of Eschatology. My mind is pretty set in my way. My word, "Chew" = analyse, break down, tear apart into the tiny bits. After analysis comes synthesis, the putting together again. I'm an analyst and have been formally trained in it and given the title, 'IT Systems Analyst' because titles are cheaper than raises. I'm a knowledge seeker too, again, by nature. It was part of what was put into me when I was knit together in the Womb. But compared to Eschatology, computer networking and Systems Analysis is a breeze.

Jesus spoke to say, "If you see the fig tree putting forth its blossoms know that summer is near," and for me, it's okay to know that we are getting close, that our days are numbered but even that is difficult. What I find easier is to try to know what I do not know.

Respectfully, I am inclined to decline your gracious invitation. I will ask to see what our Master says. It's hard to say, "no".

No problem, as if anything in my 65 years here on earth one thing I have learned is not to go where the Holy Spirit does not lead you to go.

I will say though that learning and teaching about end times is one of my passions as I devour it like a pie eater in a pie eating contest. LOL.

 

[Sparkey]

Adding vs. 1-3 I see this as the daughters of Jerusalem being the church as in sisters and brothers that are charged to prepare them self as a Bride that will be pleasing to her Groom before the union is made as one.

Having started, let me say that a way of understanding prophecy is to first apply the Scripture to the day it was spoken. We can (and many insist that we do) consider this as a Poem about G-d and Yisra-El (Israel). We could also apply it to Jesus in his day on the earth. But that might be a stretch because he wasn't married. But, if we consider the teachings of Paul? We can begin to see a very intriguing mystery. He is speaking about Christ Jesus and the Church.

But when we bring Paul into the conversation we risk being judged like he was, "Much learning has made you mad!"

But back to the topic, yes? The "Daughters of Jerusalem" could be thought of as the Girls of City of Peace back in the day before the Temple was destroyed. There was MUSIC there. Contrast that temple and it's shekinah glory with the previous temple in the desert.

I'm very literal at times and have compared the Royal House at the time of David and especially Solomon to arrive at this conclusion. I really should look again before I speak, but you'll pardon me if I mistake something or other. We'll have to jump ahead (and beyond the scope of my intent here) to Song of Solomon 6:8-9 for the Praise: There are sixty queens and eighty concubines, and maidens without number, but my dove, my perfect one, is unique, the favorite of the mother who bore her. The maidens see her and call her blessed; the queens and concubines sing her praises.

 

[for_his_glory]

One thing I love about the Song of Solomon is the intimate (not sexual) relationship we have with Christ and it's a shame that so many can not see that and skip over this book.

 

[Sparkey]

I will say though that learning and teaching about end times is one of my passions as I devour it like a pie eater in a pie eating contest. LOL.

HERE! Have a pie! Have a couple, they're free and belong to us now!

Manners and Customs of Biblical Lands by Fred H. Wright
(now in Public Domain)

Click here ----> CHAPTER FOURTEEN - Marriage Customs (29.61 Kb)

It's not pure Eschatology by any means but it does fit well, methinks.​

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Quote: The law did forbid the multiplication of wives by the kings of Israel (Deuteronomy 17:17). The cause of much of the trouble, in the lives of David and Solomon, as well as Ahab, was because of their following the example of the kings of their day in taking many, and especially heathen wives, rather than obeying GOD's law.​

It may be a stretch but I'll begin another post within this thread to attempt to show that even this choice to go outside of the strict interpretation of the LAW (/sigh: O! The Law) is a foreshadowing of future events. I'll attempt to show that Jesus heard and understood this well. It's a story you're familiar with. It's a story of the lust and the consequence of King David's heart, Solomon's daddy. It's a story of Solomon's mommy. To me, it's another sacred secret.

1 Corinthians 14:6 Now, brothers and sisters, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction?

 

[for_his_glory]

I will go read 6:8, 9 and get back to you tomorrow on that as I need to go and check out the rest the alerts I have. I am enjoying this discussion with you. God bless and have a good evening.

 

[Sparkey]

Synopsis (from Wikipedia.org - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathsheba):
David's first interactions with Bathsheba are described in 2 Samuel 11

David, while walking on the roof of his palace, saw a very beautiful woman bathing. He ordered inquiries and found out that she was Bathsheba, wife of Uriah. Long story short, David impregnated her. (That's the part that catches me and ties in with the whole "baby" and even man-child concept). In an effort to conceal his sin, David summoned Uriah from the army (with whom he was on campaign) in the hope that Uriah would have sex with her and think that the child belonged to him. But Uriah was unwilling to violate the ancient kingdom rule applying to warriors in active service.

Rather than go home to his own bed, he preferred to remain with the palace troops.
After repeated efforts to convince Uriah to have sex with Bathsheba the king gave the order to his general, Joab, that Uriah should be placed on the front lines of the battle, where Uriah would be more likely to die. David had Uriah himself carry the message that led to his death. After Uriah had been killed, David married Bathsheba.

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Here then is what was given to me by my best friend; Uriah was a type that foreshadows the LAW of God. Let's examine that notion for a second.

Uriah was good. The law is good.

Romans 7:12 - Wherefore the law [is] holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

1 Timothy 1:8-10 - But we know that the law [is] good, if a man use it lawfully;

John 1:17 - For the law was given by Moses, [but] grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
Psalms 19:7-9 - The law of the LORD [is] perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD [is] sure, making wise the simple. (Read More...)

1 John 3:4 - Whosoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Isaiah 33:22 - For the LORD [is] our judge, the LORD [is] our lawgiver, the LORD [is] our king; he will save us.

David had overstepped boundaries and trespassed against Uriah. She was his cistern, the provider of succor to her lawful husband. He needed to be set aside so that Solomon might be conceived.

In Matthew 1:6, "the wife of Uriah" is mentioned as one of the ancestors of Jesus.
In medieval typology, Bathsheba is recognized as the ante-type foreshadowing the role of Ecclesia, the church personified, as David was the ante-type for Jesus. I won't belabor the point if any care to argue - they are welcome to their own counsel.

But what was Uriah? He was set aside. My friend has instructed me that one may think of him as the ante-type foreshadowing the law itself. Holy may NOT touch sin. Jesus may NOT touch us, unless the LAW, which is good is set aside, killed, if you will. We are free from the condemnation of the law and the role of the law has been changed, transformed. This, which once condemned and prevented, is now used to Guard, convict and then conduct us to Jesus.

And now we turn to Romans 7 and the purpose of the law (as seen through the eyes of the currently discussed revelation). Romans 7:24 especially.

It is my hope that this discussion can at least in part, be used to resolve some of the contention between the various camps while discussing the difference between the Spirit and Letter. One has been been set aside and in so doing, it's role has been changed. What was once used by the Accuser as one of his greatest weapons has been thrown down. This is *NOW* used at a guardian and a transporter to The Christ and the the seat of mercy. And that is yet another study (picture these things as a series of cones -- overlapping and extending outward into infinity).

/Hallelujah. It is the LORD!