Should We Blame Violence on The Kind of Videogames That We Let Our Children Play?

[HeIsRisen2018]

With the recent Florida school shooting I was just really curious about this one.

 

[Willie T]

No, you should blame it on just what you eventually said.... your guidance and control of what the child is exposed to and allowed to act out with no restraint. (if we are talking about little children)

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

No, you should blame it on just what you eventually said.... your guidance and control of what the child is exposed to and allowed to act out with no restraint. (if we are talking about little children)

That's very true. And if there is no disciplinary action in place then eventually that child is going to wind up behind bars or worse.

 

[Willie T]

That's very true. And if there is no disciplinary action in place then eventually that child is going to wind up behind bars or worse.

Guidance and control don't necessarily have to be discipline. The best riders don't have to use spurs on their horses.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

I just found this this morning. Apparently the president thinks that movies and videogames are partly to blame for school shootings. Of course one of my favorite video games as a child and even now is Tomb Raider and I have a strong disliking for guns in the real world. I don't mean that I'm against somebody having one, I just don't want one because they scare me.


http://fox8.com/2018/02/23/trump-says-video-games-movies-partly-to-blame-in-school-shootings/

 

[Razeontherock]

Trump grew up in a generation that always blamed entertainment for declining morals. Is it true? Either way, how much censorship do we want?

This is something where he's not listening to experts at all, but just shooting from the hip. The same stimulation will affect different people differently. Individual responsibility is still a thing. Of all the people that have extensively played 'shoot 'em up' style video games, there is not even any correlation to violent tendencies. Life is a bit more complicated than that.

Movies may have a larger impact on a person, but it's society changing over decades, and generations. Meanwhile we are still to be salt and light! In the world but not of it.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

Yeah I have been meaning to ask you that. What exactly does the phrase being like salt and light mean?

 

[Willie T]

You have only to listen to many of the relatively calm descriptions some students give of school shootings to immediately see that they aren't too much different than the accounts seasoned and death-hardened combat veterans give of firefights. That, in itself, should be far more than just a little unsettling. Some of them speak of stepping over dead bodies almost as casually as they would describe just going down to the lunchroom.

 

[Willie T]

Yeah I have been meaning to ask you that. What exactly does the phrase being like salt and light mean?

"Salt" gives flavor and meaning to life, and "light" shows the safe way.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

You have only to listen to many of the relatively calm descriptions some students give of school shootings to immediately see that they aren't too much different that the accounts seasoned and death-hardened combat veterans give of firefights. That, in itself, should be far more than just a little unsettling. Some of them speak of stepping over dead bodies almost as casually as they would describe just going down to the lunchroom.

That's rather sad how true that statement is.

"Salt" gives flavor and meaning to life, and "light" shows the safe way.

Thanks for clearing that up for me! It sounds to me that Jesus is the answer to both of those things.

 

[Willie T]

"That generation" *Raze* just knocked is also a generation that did not see school shootings as a normal daily happening. Think about THAT for about five minutes.

 

[Razeontherock]

You have only to listen to many of the relatively calm descriptions some students give of school shootings to immediately see that they aren't too much different than the accounts seasoned and death-hardened combat veterans give of firefights. That, in itself, should be far more than just a little unsettling. Some of them speak of stepping over dead bodies almost as casually as they would describe just going down to the lunchroom.

While I can't tell if you're serious because any student interview I've seen has been borderline hysterical as one would expect, people do have a strong will to live and adapt quickly. This is why students should be taught and trained in how to overwhelm any perp. If that were the culture regardless the crime, crime would be MUCH lower.

To be the land of the free, we need to be the home of the brave. At least some areas in this Nation are starting to embrace the fact this needs to be taught from a young age. I'd much rather that have it's proper place behind God not 'kicked out of school' and 2 parent families being supported rather than destroyed by our government, but it's still a step in the right direction.

 

[Razeontherock]

"That generation" *Raze* just knocked is also a generation that did not see school shootings as a normal daily happening. Think about THAT for about five minutes.

Completely inappropriate committment. I knocked no one. Basic reading comprehension, Willie

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

Completely inappropriate committment. I knocked no one. Basic reading comprehension, Willie

I can't say for certain but I took it to mean that school shootings are a recent activity and that they didn't exist back when he was in school. I could be wrong though.

 

[Willie T]

I can't say for certain but I took it to mean that school shootings are a recent activity and that they didn't exist back when he was in school. I could be wrong though.

You are absolutely right. And if we really DO want to get a handle on this, one of the most basic things we have to do is determine WHY senseless, vindictive violence happens so much today, when it hardly ever happened then.

 

[Willie T]

There is a lot to be said for the question of whether or not we really DO want to do something about it. Even Jesus was known to ask a person IF they REALLY did want to be cured.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

There is a lot to be said for the question of whether or not we really DO want to do something about it. Even Jesus was known to ask a person IF they REALLY did want to be cured.

Exactly. If anything is ever going to be accomplished, one first has to believe in it enough to make a change possible.

 

[jasonc]

You have only to listen to many of the relatively calm descriptions some students give of school shootings to immediately see that they aren't too much different than the accounts seasoned and death-hardened combat veterans give of firefights. That, in itself, should be far more than just a little unsettling. Some of them speak of stepping over dead bodies almost as casually as they would describe just going down to the lunchroom.

Off topic ,thats a searing of one's heart that may never heal.I avoid horror movies for that reason .I can easily feed thar dark side .people have photographed bodies after gun fights here .

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

That's not completely off topic. Horror movies are just that to me. Movies. And I really rather enjoy them actually. Especially around Halloween.

 

[Willie T]

Off topic ,thats a searing of one's heart that may never heal.I avoid horror movies for that reason .I can easily feed thar dark side .people have photographed bodies after gun fights here .

??????????? How is the progressive desensitizing of children to the reality of physical death by the indoctrination of video games and TV, off topic? That is the whole topic of this thread.