Should We Blame Violence on The Kind of Videogames That We Let Our Children Play?

[Razeontherock]

Violence brings thoughts of violence to an unstable mind that acts out what they see.

Are you trained in the treatment of mental illness?

 

[Razeontherock]

Have you ever been in a situation where someone has tried to take your life? I have and it is scary. It's easy to say what you would do until you face such a situation. Having Jesus is the end result if you are persecuted to death, but yet there is still a fear factor involved as it's the fear within us that cries out to Jesus for help.

Your response to facing death is rather different from my own.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

Your response to facing death is rather different from my own.

I do agree with what she said though. That would be rather scary. And until one of us is in that situation, we really can't know for sure.

 

[for_his_glory]

That's a foolish question, seriously. School mass shooters aren't known for doing their deed by holding their gun to one person's head at a time. You paint a picture of people lining up, taking a number, and waiting their turn.

Almost as absurd is the self-defense training that gives people a false sense of security about being able to go one on one, bare-handed, against an armed assailant and winning. (While it may be possible, it is the most dire of circumstances and to be avoided at all costs, obviously)

Did you not say this in your post #12 "This is why students should be taught and trained in how to overwhelm any perp."
It's the attacker that takes one out at a time so how would you overwhelm them if you saw the gun pointed at you?

 

[for_his_glory]

Your response to facing death is rather different from my own.

Have you ever had someone try to kill you and if so how did you respond to it?

 

[for_his_glory]

Are you trained in the treatment of mental illness?

Yes I was many years ago when I worked with the mentally handicapped.

 

[Razeontherock]

Goat raises a good point, Nikolas Cruz could be a rare chance to look into the mind of a monster. If he were willing to cooperate we might learn why he did it, as well as his gaming habits.

 

[Razeontherock]

Have you ever had someone try to kill you and if so how did you respond to it?

Yes, you can gather that from context. Just as obviously, I won. Every time.

 

[Razeontherock]

Yes I was many years ago when I worked with the mentally handicapped.

Ok, I don't think handicapped people are the ones preying upon our schools? (Or anywhere else)

People in the field I know come into contact with violent perpetrators more often affected by intrusive thoughts moreso than what you said about

violence brings thoughts of violence ... and they act out what they see.

That's more like trauma. And there are copycat killers. School shooters seem to be big on the copycat variety of crime, but that doesn't establish video games as a cause.

 

[Willie T]

Ok, I don't think handicapped people are the ones preying upon our schools? (Or anywhere else)

People in the field I know come into contact with violent perpetrators more often affected by intrusive thoughts moreso than what you said about

violence brings thoughts of violence ... and they act out what they see.

That's more like trauma. And there are copycat killers. School shooters seem to be big on the copycat variety of crime, but that doesn't establish video games as a cause.

For cryin' out loud! Read what you, yourself just wrote. You are correct. And where do most kids see it for hours every single day of the week?

 

[for_his_glory]

Ok, I don't think handicapped people are the ones preying upon our schools? (Or anywhere else)

People in the field I know come into contact with violent perpetrators more often affected by intrusive thoughts moreso than what you said about

violence brings thoughts of violence ... and they act out what they see.

That's more like trauma. And there are copycat killers. School shooters seem to be big on the copycat variety of crime, but that doesn't establish video games as a cause.

Do you not think these school shooters are not mentally disturbed? Seriously!!!

Have you had criminal intent training? A disturbed young mine that is curious can become your next shooter as they act out the violent games they play.

 

[for_his_glory]

Yes, you can gather that from context. Just as obviously, I won. Every time.

If I may ask how were you almost killed by the hands of another and military wars do not count as that is different then what we are talking about.

 

[Razeontherock]

If I may ask how were you almost killed by the hands of another and military wars do not count as that is different then what we are talking about.

Mafia

 

[Razeontherock]

For cryin' out loud! Read what you, yourself just wrote. You are correct. And where do most kids see it for hours every single day of the week?

Nope. Missing the point. I'll take that as my fault for a failure to communicate, but you emphasized words that were not my own.

 

[Razeontherock]

Do you not think these school shooters are not mentally disturbed? Seriously!!!

Have you had criminal intent training? A disturbed young mine that is curious can become your next shooter as they act out the violent games they play.

You said you worked with the handicapped. Usually, that is not how we talk about mental illness.

We do know for a fact every one of these mass shooters is mentally ill; the definition of 'behavioral illness' sees to that.

Do we know enough about the development of mental illness to be able to say playing video games contributes? I realize this is a shift of topic, I just think it must develop somehow ...

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

You said you worked with the handicapped. Usually, that is not how we talk about mental illness.





I agree. I for one am mentally handicapped. I'm just not quite sure if it's the same thing as being mentally ill.

 

[for_his_glory]

With you it's a form of illness in your brain, but in your case I see it more a comprehending problem to a certain degree.

 

[for_his_glory]

You said you worked with the handicapped. Usually, that is not how we talk about mental illness.

We do know for a fact every one of these mass shooters is mentally ill; the definition of 'behavioral illness' sees to that.

Do we know enough about the development of mental illness to be able to say playing video games contributes? I realize this is a shift of topic, I just think it must develop somehow ...

If you want I could call those I worked with retarded, but mentally handicapped or mentally disabled is a nicer way of putting it, but even still I had to go through training and self defense classes.

These shooters do not have clinical mental issues, but issues with society from built up rage against their tormentors and not a mental illness. In some cases violent games and TV violence feeds this rage as they strike out to take revenge.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

I hated the R word. I absolutely hated it. I was called that all of the time in school.

 

[Razeontherock]

If you want I could call those I worked with retarded, but mentally handicapped or mentally disabled is a nicer way of putting it, but even still I had to go through training and self defense classes.

These shooters do not have clinical mental issues, but issues with society from built up rage against their tormentors and not a mental illness. In some cases violent games and TV violence feeds this rage as they strike out to take revenge.

Everything you're saying is contrary to what everyone I know in the field says. That's why I asked if you were trained in treating mental illness. Maybe it's just a question of the verbiage having changed since you retired, or since you wrote your first thesis?