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In other words having a belief does not matter unless it is bible based.
You may have thought you gave some bible support for old ages. I doubt it. Really.
It was childishly simple actually. You alluded to stars already being here before He made them on the fourth day
Of course, depending on the belief.
I did. I gave several different ways to legitimately understand the first six days of creation that are true to Scripture and allow for an old earth. If you doubt I did, then address what I have stated.
Which means you either didn't actually read what I wrote, or it was not all childishly simple and you didn't understand it.
Be specific. There is no legitimate way to insert old ages
So be clear. Give us your Scripture chapter and verse that says the earth is millions of years old? Give us support that the stars and sun were not created in the six days as was Adam? Why pretend we do not understand what you cannot produce (whether you imagine you did or not)
You'll have to go back and read. I'm not going to repeat things I've said already.
This is fallaciously begging the question.
Again, go back and read what I've written. I can no more give you chapter and verse that says the earth is millions of years old than you can given chapter and verse that says the earth is 6,000 years old.
I am not pretending anything. Based on what you've said so far, you either haven't read what I posted or you have misunderstood it. Those are the only two options.
They had camels. This is represented by the letter C. Which today means jets. Just like a tent or tabernacle today can be a high rise building for our office or a home for people to live in. The difference is a home we leave in the morning and return at night. Our business we go to in the morning sunrise and leave at sunset. Unless you are in a union then it gets all mixed up and confused.
Give us your support that science is wrong. We have lots more evidence for Science than your traditional interpretation of the Bible. Jesus warns against following human traditions that contradict God's commandments. In Mark 7:8, He criticizes the Pharisees, saying, "You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions." He emphasizes that traditions should not replace true faith and obedience to God
No. You have nothing stop pretending. Whatever you said was not showing that the bible claims millions of years. Ridiculous
No that is the truth in simple form that even you should be able to get
Either Adam was here in creation week (the same one everything else was created) or not. If he was, then we have a reasonable estimate of when he lived.
Simple. Show us ANY science that shows Genesis wrong? We can then expose whatever you offer as not really science. Piece of cake
No one questioned science. What is questioned is falsely called science that is really bad religion in drag
That has what to do with your allusions that science overrules the bible on creation?
Your job is to show me that science is wrong. I know the Bible is not wrong. Peter and Moses BOTH tell us that a day with God is 1,000 years. There are people that teach at the universities in Jerusalem that have a PhD in Botany. They can tell you how the wild plants in the MIddle east became cultivated in the Garden of Eden. They do not write very many books. Mostly they publish in journals. Moses saved an entire biodiverse eco system on the Ark. They needed food to eat after the flood. The Bible is clear that Adam is the first person to till the land.
Again, read what I actually wrote and address the points I made. Have some integrity at least.
No, you’re fallaciously begging the question. You’re assuming your particular interpretation of the text is correct and using that to conclude it is correct.
So, your belief that the earth is around 6,000 years old is based on your assumptions about the text, and other texts presumably. This underscores my point that the Bible is silent on how old the earth is.
Again, the fact you state this shows you simply either haven’t read or don’t understand what I’ve already stated.
Job 38 records God questioning Job about the foundations of the earth, saying:
Falsely called science is wrong. All origin sciences are false. How are they wrong? The old ages for example. All dating methods are faith based. For example if a rock was created and we looked at it the day after, it would have isotope ratios already in it. The ratios would not be due to radioactive decay. They would be due to creation. Radioactive decay is just another process that kicked in AFTER things existed. Science gives credit to such processes for the very existence of things
With man, though a day is a day. Since the bible is for man, that is what matters. God was not talking about some unreal mysterious 'God mornings and evenings' when He tells us He created in six days. That would be man days.
Not sure of the point here?
Ok, so? Since God PLANTED the garden and told Adam to keep it, of course it was cultivated
I will if you post a point. I do not recall any you made. I can see why you dance around the floor though. It won't go well for you if you actually spit it out and give it your best shot here. So you obfuscate.
There is no question to beg. Pretending it is some 'interpretation' is meaningless when you do not explain some other supposed interpretation
No. It is based on belief in Jesus and the Scripture He proved was true and said was true.
WE do not need to know what time of day the earth was made. If we know the generations from Adam, that is close enough. No billions of years involved, or possible.
False religion is wrong also. It is all the same. Religion accepts same sex marriage. How can they accept that and still claim to represent God? I had a priest tell me God does not hate divorce. He died a year later. But I am still here telling people that God hates divorce.
Day and daybreak are distinct because of how light interacts with the atmosphere. If there were a north pole you would have 6 months of day and six months of night.
No. Not all that is false is science. Not all science is false either.
Not true religion of God
They can't
Unless priests or anyone else follow His word, their advice can be flicked off
Not in Genesis. They are distinct because He made them that way
Not sure what you thought that meant? In other words, the path of believers is more and more lit as we get closer to the day when we meet Jesus.
Yes the Bible is very clear about how God made the atmosphere and how that effects the light from the sun the moon and the stars. But most people do not know enough about the laws of physics to understand that. Too many people believe we can disregard the law and nothing can be further from the truth. Jesus came to forfill the law and to live His life as an example for us to follow. Matthew 5:17 reflect this idea: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." The Grace of God does a work in us so that we can be the people He is calling us to be.
Oh? Where are the verses about that?
You thought people needed to know physical laws to understand that a Spirit created it all??
Not my problem or the topic here. I think the general idea is that we sinners came to Jesus for help and it is an ongoing work in progress.
Yet no one else in the world ever lived like Him who had no sin. They hopefully tried the best they could. The law neither saved anyone ever, nor was obeyed by anyone ever!
Jesus in us is what makes us better
The Bible has several verses that describe how God created the atmosphere and how it affects the light from the sun, moon, and stars. Here are a few key passages:
