Do you think police should wear uniform cameras?

As a retired cop I will say I wouldn't mind these at all as long as they were used for their intended purpose,which is preventing police brutality. I was still working when they first started installing dash cams in police cars, and I loved them. Turned out that when a complaint was made against the police, almost every time the dash cam recording proved the complaint was a lie. Not to mention that I saw a lot of short tempered cops suddenly find the wherewithall to keep their temper in check when they knew that camera was recording!
 
it would reduce that but not eliminate that stuff. what good did it do me if im dead and they have the recording? laws prevent those that care from breaking it. if you don't care you will break the law.we have email right and the nsa right? and yet somehow lois lerners emails are where?
 
Jason cops will think before they act. Like when the cops here in Philly on about 3 occasions killed mentally handicapped and retarded people.
 
Jason cops will think before they act. Like when the cops here in Philly on about 3 occasions killed mentally handicapped and retarded people.
im not against it just saying that if a corrupt government doesn't care they will hide any evidence that is why I specifically mentioned the irs. any email from a government pc is in fact public record and accesable to the public at any time. my vacation hours, pay and sick time are available for the public to see. and also at one time my dd214 which no longer has the ss on it.
 
Yes they should wear them and things like this latest incident won't happen. Because they would be on camera.

Autopsy Reveals That Utah Cops Shot Black Man Six Times While He Was Running Away
Tuesday, September, 16th, 2014, 11:03 am
http://www.politicususa.com/2014/09/16/autopsy-reveals-utah-cops-shot-black-man-times-running.html
Yeah, good example of where these cameras can be a big help. Believe it or not, there actually are situations where it's legal and proper for the police to shoot a fleeing suspect in the back, but if there's any truth to this story this doesn't seem like one of them. Cameras could have shown the truth of what really happened if they'd had them.
 
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As a retired cop I will say I wouldn't mind these at all as long as they were used for their intended purpose,which is preventing police brutality. I was still working when they first started installing dash cams in police cars, and I loved them. Turned out that when a complaint was made against the police, almost every time the dash cam recording proved the complaint was a lie. Not to mention that I saw a lot of short tempered cops suddenly find the wherewithall to keep their temper in check when they knew that camera was recording!
Two reasons why the cameras would be an advantage.
 
Wow this guy was running away, and all bullets were shot in his back, I don't think they can get away with this one.
 
Wow this guy was running away, and all bullets were shot in his back, I don't think they can get away with this one.
Doesn't sound like it if the report you linked to is giving full and accurate details. The case you are talking about happened in Utah, so I'm not as familiar with their law. I used to work in California. We had the "Fleeing Felon" law that allowed police to shoot a person in the back as they were running away, but only if they knew he was guilty of a felony crime, other reasonable attempts to apprehend him had failed, and that his escape would most likely put other's lives in danger. It has to meet all of these criteria AS WELL as all the other criteria for a normal shooting situation. This is very rare. In my entire career I was never involved in a case that fit these requirements nor do I know anyone personally who was. However, one such case that fit the criteria was the infamous Hollywood bank robbery shootout that most everyone watched on TV.

But even if the law is the same in Utah, if the facts of this case as presented in the article you linked to are accurate and complete, they're gonna have a mighty tough time proving he fit any of the requirements of the Fleeing Felon law! Once again, this is a great example of a case where these uniform cameras would have been great to have. If the cops were indeed in the wrong, just the fact that they knew everything they did was being recorded very well could have prevented this from happening in the first place.
 
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Doesn't sound like it if the report you linked to is giving full and accurate details. The case you are talking about happened in Utah, so I'm not as familiar with their law. I used to work in California. We had the "Fleeing Felon" law that allowed police to shoot a person in the back as they were running away, but only if they knew he was guilty of a felony crime, other reasonable attempts to apprehend him had failed, and that his escape would most likely put other's lives in danger. It has to meet all of these criteria AS WELL as all the other criteria for a normal shooting situation. This is very rare. In my entire career I was never involved in a case that fit these requirements nor do I know anyone personally who was. However, one such case that fit the criteria was the infamous Hollywood bank robbery shootout that most everyone watched on TV.

But even if the law is the same in Utah, if the facts of this case as presented in the article you linked to are accurate and complete, they're gonna have a mighty tough time proving he fit any of the requirements of the Fleeing Felon law! Once again, this is a great example of a case where these uniform cameras would have been great to have. If the cops were indeed in the wrong, just the fact that they knew everything they did was being recorded very well could have prevented this from happening in the first place.
florida has that law. and so does the military, any prison and jail with armed guards in the tower during the escape may shoot first after they leave the compound.
 
Here is a case in Utah Obadiah, but the shooter is not a cop.

Homeowner Arrested for Shooting at Fleeing Burglar Forfeits Gun, Concealed Carry Permit
http://www.guns.com/2013/02/14/utah-man-arrested-for-shooting/
This is different. The type of law I'm referring to applies to cops (actual sworn state certified "peace officers"), not private citizens, private security guards, or anyone else. You have to be a state certified "peace officer" for the Fleeing Felon law to apply to you.

Also, even for a peace officer, it's doubtful the Fleeing Fallon law would apply to a burglar because, even though burglary is a felony, there's little reason to believe that his escape would put someone else's life in danger.
 
Preventing police violence would be a good thing if it can be acomplished by cops haven cams.

On the other hand it's another kick in the balls of privacy and personality rights: what is going to happen to the footage? Would poeple be filmed only when interacting with cops, or are they gonna film just erverything (like people peacefully sitting on a bench when the cops drive by)? We've already lost control over what's happening to our personal information, even more surveillance is not exactly what my heart longs for....
 
This is different. The type of law I'm referring to applies to cops (actual sworn state certified "peace officers"), not private citizens, private security guards, or anyone else. You have to be a state certified "peace officer" for the Fleeing Felon law to apply to you.

Also, even for a peace officer, it's doubtful the Fleeing Fallon law would apply to a burglar because, even though burglary is a felony, there's little reason to believe that his escape would put someone else's life in danger.
Obadiah what about a private citizen carrying a lazer?Is it legal?Maybe in some states and not others?

PS... did you see my thread to you about todays earthquake in Puget Sound?
 
Preventing police violence would be a good thing if it can be acomplished by cops haven cams.

On the other hand it's another kick in the balls of privacy and personality rights: what is going to happen to the footage? Would poeple be filmed only when interacting with cops, or are they gonna film just erverything (like people peacefully sitting on a bench when the cops drive by)? We've already lost control over what's happening to our personal information, even more surveillance is not exactly what my heart longs for....

Obadiah what about a private citizen carrying a lazer?Is it legal?Maybe in some states and not others?

PS... did you see my thread to you about todays earthquake in Puget Sound?
A lazer (as in "laser")? I haven't heard of any personal lazers that are actually deadly. If something like that is available I have no idea how the laws apply to it.

Edit: After thinking about this, did you mean "tazer"? Was that a typo? But even if you meant "tazer", that is still a different situation since a tazer is legally considered non-lethal. however I don't know much about the laws on these because when I retired, personal tazers being available to the public was still a brand new thing. I've never owned one either, so haven't had any reason to look into it.

Earthquake in Puget Sound? Nope, haven't paid attention and just got in a few minutes ago. Guess I'll have to go look...
 
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A lazer? I haven't heard of any personal lazers that are actually deadly. If something like that is available I have no idea how the laws apply to it.

Earthquake in Puget Sound? Nope, haven't paid attention and just got in a few minutes ago. Guess I'll have to go look...
Well,obviously you did not feel it.It was a 4.
 
Well,obviously you did not feel it.It was a 4.
No, I was hauling a trailer for a customer today. Wouldn't have felt a 4, especially while on the road unless maybe right on top of the epicenter. Besides, I'm originally from the Los Angles area and got so used to earthquakes that they didn't even get me out of bed until they got up to at least a 6.
 
Part of that Wikipedia article is correct and part of it in not correct according to what I was taught under California law. (In fairness to the article, it is not stipulating it is talking about California law in particular). In the areas where the article disagrees with what I was taught under my law professor and in extensive ongoing training and court experience, I'll stick with what the law professor, ongoing training, and court experience taught me.

Either way, I think the fact still remains that if the article about the guy the police shot who had the plastic sword in a sheath on his back is accurate, none of this applies to that situation (he wasn't a fleeing felon), and it is a situation that very well may have been avoided in the first place had the police been wearing these cameras that this thread is talking about.
 
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