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Fascinating Temple Discovery

daninthelionsden

daninthelionsden

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Saw a guy on Youtube saying the threshing floor on the Temple Mount is actually at the Dome of the spirits and that it lines up perfectly (geographically speaking) with the Golden Gate. The Golden Gate is supposed to be in a perfect line with the Holy of Holies. If true then the 3rd Temple could be built a short distance from the Dome of the Rock and construction could be negotiated soon.
 
It is interesting.

But, even if that were true, the Muslim problem still exists. I don't see them willing to remove the Dome of the Spirits anymore than the Dome of the Rock.

I believe some outside force, God, must occur to destroy either or both Domes. Or it could be through war between Israel and Arabs again. I just don't see it being peacefully negotiated.

And perhaps, whatever force is needed to remove those Domes, may well uncover the Ark of the Covenant. And, may well locate genealogical records that could lead to the ability to identify the individual tribes where the Jews come from. Just thinking out loud.

Quantrill
 
Quantrill said:
It is interesting.

But, even if that were true, the Muslim problem still exists. I don't see them willing to remove the Dome of the Spirits anymore than the Dome of the Rock.

I believe some outside force, God, must occur to destroy either or both Domes. Or it could be through war between Israel and Arabs again. I just don't see it being peacefully negotiated.

And perhaps, whatever force is needed to remove those Domes, may well uncover the Ark of the Covenant. And, may well locate genealogical records that could lead to the ability to identify the individual tribes where the Jews come from. Just thinking out loud.

Quantrill
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The Copper Scroll of the Dead Sea Scrolls reveals itself as a map showing where everything is buried. They have ground radar and metal detector confirmation and the area is under 24 hr armed guard. They just haven't dug it up yet and doubt they will until 3rd Temple is built. I believe a false peace will allow the Temple construction relatively soon. It will be hailed as a modern miracle.
 
daninthelionsden said:
The Copper Scroll of the Dead Sea Scrolls reveals itself as a map showing where everything is buried. They have ground radar and metal detector confirmation and the area is under 24 hr armed guard. They just haven't dug it up yet and doubt they will until 3rd Temple is built. I believe a false peace will allow the Temple construction relatively soon. It will be hailed as a modern miracle.
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Interesting. I have seen pictures of the inside of the Dome of the Rock. And there is a cut in the rock that measures the same as the Ark of the covenant. Could be coincidence.

Quantrill
 
Quantrill said:
Interesting. I have seen pictures of the inside of the Dome of the Rock. And there is a cut in the rock that measures the same as the Ark of the covenant. Could be coincidence.

Quantrill
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We are possibly/probably living in the most important history of mankind as all that man has known comes full circle and we leave one aspect of life on earth and enter the "Thy Kingdom Come" administration of life on planet earth. Prepare for massive birth pangs though as this comes into fruition.
 
daninthelionsden said:
Saw a guy on Youtube saying the threshing floor on the Temple Mount is actually at the Dome of the spirits and that it lines up perfectly (geographically speaking) with the Golden Gate. The Golden Gate is supposed to be in a perfect line with the Holy of Holies. If true then the 3rd Temple could be built a short distance from the Dome of the Rock and construction could be negotiated soon.
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But to be true to the original Temple Mount that is Holy unto the Lord if there was a third temple built it would have to be on the original Temple mount of God.

The cornerstone for the new Temple was brought to Jerusalem on May 21, 2009 and still remains on the street. "Jerusalem Day" in 1967 was to celebrate the liberation of the Temple Mount, but there is a problem there as the Dome of the Rock sits on the Temple Mount. Baruch Ben-Yosel , chairman of the Movement to Restore the Temple, made it clear that the Temple had to be built in the exact spot where the Dome of the Rock sits.

There will never be a third Temple built by hands, Acts 7:48; Acts 17:24. When the veil of the Temple was torn from top to bottom after Jesus gave up the ghost, Matthew 27:50, 51, this symbolized that the sacrifice of Jesus and the shedding of his blood was now made for the atonement of sin and that all, Jew and Gentile, can come before Him as He is the only way to the Father, John 14:6.

There is no more veil for the Priest to enter into the Holy of Holies once a year to make atonement for Israel's sin, nor is there any more animal sacrifices as we are no longer under the Old Covenant nor the preaching of the law, but are under a new and better covenant of Gods grace through Christ Jesus as our High Priest, Hebrews 4:14-16. Jesus prophesied of the Temple being desolate and that no one will see Him again until His time comes meaning when He returns on the last day, Matthew 24:1, 2; Luke 13:34, 35, John 6:40.

God no longer dwells in a Temple made by hands, Acts 7:48, 49, and this is why God left it desolate all these years when it was destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD, Hebrews 9:11-28; 10:1-4. Now the Dome of the Rock sits on the Temple Mount and was built around 692 AD. The Muslims will never give it over to Israel, plus the Dome of the Rock is being refurbished for the son of perdition (not a Muslim man) to come and sit on his throne on the very Temple Mount of God and will cause a great falling away from truth, Isaiah 14:12-14; 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12.

Jesus fulfilled everything the temple stood for being the last sacrificial lamb taking away all the sin of the world. God no longer dwells in a temple made by hands, Acts 7:48-50; 17:22-31; Hebrews 10:7-18

Malachi 1:11 For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts.

John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

The church, (body of Christ) is the temple where God dwells by His Holy Spirit, Zechariah 6:9-15 (prophecy of coming Messiah); 1 Corinthians 3:16, 17; Ephesians 2:19-22, Galatians 3:19-29.

In 70AD the second temple was destroyed and put an end to the temple made by hands and the sacrifices made there. The Temple of God now dwells in all who are Spiritually born again and indwelled with the Holy Spirit, John 3:5-7; Romans 10:9, 10.
 
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for_his_glory said:
But to be true to the original Temple Mount that is Holy unto the Lord if there was a third temple built it would have to be on the original Temple mount of God.

The cornerstone for the new Temple was brought to Jerusalem on May 21, 2009 and still remains on the street. "Jerusalem Day" in 1967 was to celebrate the liberation of the Temple Mount, but there is a problem there as the Dome of the Rock sits on the Temple Mount. Baruch Ben-Yosel , chairman of the Movement to Restore the Temple, made it clear that the Temple had to be built in the exact spot where the Dome of the Rock sits.

There will never be a third Temple built by hands, Acts 7:48; Acts 17:24. When the veil of the Temple was torn from top to bottom after Jesus gave up the ghost, Matthew 27:50, 51, this symbolized that the sacrifice of Jesus and the shedding of his blood was now made for the atonement of sin and that all, Jew and Gentile, can come before Him as He is the only way to the Father, John 14:6.

There is no more veil for the Priest to enter into the Holy of Holies once a year to make atonement for Israel's sin, nor is there any more animal sacrifices as we are no longer under the Old Covenant nor the preaching of the law, but are under a new and better covenant of Gods grace through Christ Jesus as our High Priest, Hebrews 4:14-16. Jesus prophesied of the Temple being desolate and that no one will see Him again until His time comes meaning when He returns on the last day, Matthew 24:1, 2; Luke 13:34, 35, John 6:40.

God no longer dwells in a Temple made by hands, Acts 7:48, 49, and this is why God left it desolate all these years when it was destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD, Hebrews 9:11-28; 10:1-4. Now the Dome of the Rock sits on the Temple Mount and was built around 692 AD. The Muslims will never give it over to Israel, plus the Dome of the Rock is being refurbished for the son of perdition (not a Muslim man) to come and sit on his throne on the very Temple Mount of God and will cause a great falling away from truth, Isaiah 14:12-14; 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12.

Jesus fulfilled everything the temple stood for being the last sacrificial lamb taking away all the sin of the world. God no longer dwells in a temple made by hands, Acts 7:48-50; 17:22-31; Hebrews 10:7-18

Malachi 1:11 For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts.

John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

The church, (body of Christ) is the temple where God dwells by His Holy Spirit, Zechariah 6:9-15 (prophecy of coming Messiah); 1 Corinthians 3:16, 17; Ephesians 2:19-22, Galatians 3:19-29.

In 70AD the second temple was destroyed and put an end to the temple made by hands and the sacrifices made there. The Temple of God now dwells in all who are Spiritually born again and indwelled with the Holy Spirit, John 3:5-7; Romans 10:9, 10.
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More recent discoveries revealed the Golden Gate is indeed the original. Ancient pillars(framing) have been verified. The Golden Gate must be geographically lined up with the Holy of Holies. The only place this alignment exists is where the Golden Gate is in line with the Dome of the Spirits. The rock under the Dome of the Spirits is the only place on the Temple Mount flat enough to be used as a threshing floor. Though small, it has evidence of having been cut. It is shown to be part of the mount bedrock and not laid by human hands. Its surface closely resembles other threshing floors in the area. The evidence is compelling that the Christians/Muslims built on the wrong spot. If they did then God blinded them as to where the actual Holy of Holies is/was located. Though this discovery is relatively new, it remains to be seen if it can be disqualified as much tradition/legend/historic assumptions/measurements must be overcome. I have to wonder if Jews 2k years ago deliberately misled gentiles as to where the true location was and succeeded in that until the fullness of time arrived. After all, if the Copper Scroll actually is a map and the modern ground radar is to be reliable, then all the Temple treasures were successfully hidden for 2k years as well.
 
Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times all because Israel never repented of their sin of idolatry when they were allowed back into their land again in 538 BC after their seventy year Babylonian exile and the land fell under the leader of the Roman Empire that still has diplomatic ties with Jerusalem today.

When the second temple was destroyed in 70 A.D. by the Romans other Roman temples were built there and destroyed during various revolts up to the fourth century. From the fourth century the temple mount laid undeveloped until the Muslim Siege of Jerusalem in 637 CE. Between 689-691 CE the Muslims built the Dome of the Rock which stands today, but now under renovations that have to do with the prophecy of the son of perdition in 2 Thessalonians 2:2-4 and the great falling away before the return of Jesus.​

Acts 7:48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,
Acts 7:49 Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
Acts 7:50 Hath not my hand made all these things?
Acts 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
 
for_his_glory said:
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Notice the pink square on the right side as this is the Golden gate
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Absolutely. And if you draw a line directly across from the Golden Gate, you will see the Dome of the Rock is just south of that line. The Third Temple can be built right beside it........minus the outer court.....under foot of the Gentiles. The platform has room to hold both the Dome of the Rock and the Third Temple. Of course the Third Temple not being the Messianic Temple (4th and final Temple).
 
The Dome of the Rock takes up that whole white square as the Muslims own all of it. If you look at the word Rock that is straight across where the Golden gate is located. The Muslims will not permit a third Temple to be built there by the Jews as Jews are considered the enemy of the Muslims and that they should be put to death according to the Quran.

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If the Jews do build another temple it will only be for themselves as God's glory will never be in it as it was in the Holy of Holies in the other two Temples as we are now the Temple of God as He dwells in us.
 
for_his_glory said:
If the Jews do build another temple it will only be for themselves as God's glory will never be in it as it was in the Holy of Holies in the other two Temples as we are now the Temple of God as He dwells in us.
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I understand the theological error the Jews are in as the look to build their 3rd Temple. The 3rd Temple is indeed planned. They will do as they will whether we agree or not. As we speak Israel, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and the UAE are reaching a military alliance. This was once thought an impossibility. If this alliance ever extends to Jordan (sole administrator of the Temple Mount), things deemed impossible suddenly appear possible.
 
for_his_glory said:
The Dome of the Rock takes up that whole white square as the Muslims own all of it. If you look at the word Rock that is straight across where the Golden gate is located. The Muslims will not permit a third Temple to be built there by the Jews as Jews are considered the enemy of the Muslims and that they should be put to death according to the Quran.

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Who says the Muslims own all of it? Since 1967, Israel owns all of it.

Quantrill
 
I heard that the biblical Hebrews didn't build their temple on the highest point like pagans but on a lower neck? Also I find it hard to believe that the temple could have been build on or over/around the Shetiyah rock? Maybe the basin or altar was on the rock? Though Rico Rosale's body of messiah theory has the temple as analogous to a laying down body with the head on the rock as Jacob's pillow.

Revelation 11 seems to imply that the temple has been built by that chapter.
No one is disputing that the Jewish temple won't be a messianic/christian one and that the body is the temple.

Re the Ark I am inclined to think that it is perhaps under Calvary/Golgotha like Ron Wyatt claimed, since it makes sense, though I am not overly certain of it.
Previously I had a theory that the ark might be under Bethesda besdie the temple mount and connected with the angel coming down and causing the waters to stir in John.
 
Quantrill said:
Who says the Muslims own all of it? Since 1967, Israel owns all of it.

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The Temple Mount is within the Old city, which has been controlled by Israel since 1967. After the Six-Day War Israel handed administration of the site back to Waqf under Jordanian custodianship while maintaining Israeli security control. The Muslims have had control of the Temple Mount since 692 CE when the Jews abandoned the site. They will never give it back to the Jews, especially to build a third temple.

Waqf is an Islamic endowment of property to be held in trust and used for charitable or religious purpose.
 
The case for the Dome of the Spirits being the site chosen, rests in part the tradition of that site also being known over the centuries by the Jews as the Dome of the Tablets. Also Orthodox Jews refuse to go any where near that site for fear of inadvertently entering the Holy of Holies.
Scriptures supporting such are 2 Samuel 24:24 and Rev 11:1-2.
Geographically the Dome of the Spirits is 330ft from the Dome of the Rock. This leaves approx. 20ft distance from the Dome of the Rock and any completed 3rd Temple.
 
Side note: It is reported that an 800 year old prophecy from the Torah predicts a major end times war between Saudi Arabia and Iran (Persia) before the plague (Covid) ends. With Edom (the West) giving council to Saudi Arabia. Though the prophecy fits it ,of course, remains to be seen if it refers to this point in time.
 
daninthelionsden said:
I understand the theological error the Jews are in as the look to build their 3rd Temple. The 3rd Temple is indeed planned. They will do as they will whether we agree or not. As we speak Israel, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and the UAE are reaching a military alliance. This was once thought an impossibility. If this alliance ever extends to Jordan (sole administrator of the Temple Mount), things deemed impossible suddenly appear possible.
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Add to this list:

The Pope, Islamic Imams, Arab League and the Middle East Quartet that comprises the U.S., Russia, the EU, the United Nations and possibly China who wants in on the peace plans are working on an agreement of who will govern Jerusalem as a peacemaker between the Arab countries and Israel. When this is all accomplished Papal Rome will then have domination over all Jews/Gentiles as Papal Rome will be the official one world economic, political, military and religious governing system of a powerful worldwide dictatorship.

To make the peace plan between Israel and the Arab countries a reality the Liberal Zionists must also agree with this peace treaty. Only when the Liberal Zionists are willing to surrender then the Pope can preside over a new neutral administration with its power seat on the exact spot where God’s temple that was first built by Solomon and then rebuilt by Ezra was once located, but destroyed and stood vacant for a few centuries until the Muslims took control over the temple mount building the Dome of the Rock around 692 AD. The Christian Zionists and Religious Jewish Judaism is the only thing that holds back the last man of lawlessness (son of perdition) from taking his seat in Jerusalem.​
 
for_his_glory said:
The Temple Mount is within the Old city, which has been controlled by Israel since 1967. After the Six-Day War Israel handed administration of the site back to Waqf under Jordanian custodianship while maintaining Israeli security control. The Muslims have had control of the Temple Mount since 692 CE when the Jews abandoned the site. They will never give it back to the Jews, especially to build a third temple.

Waqf is an Islamic endowment of property to be held in trust and used for charitable or religious purpose.
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Israel, in my opinion, made a bad mistake in not destroying the Dome of the Rock when they could have in 1967. They equally made a bad mistake in giving Muslims control.

But Israel owns it.

I have no doubt the Muslims will never 'allow' a Temple to be built on the site. But, they won't have any say in the matter when the time comes. The third Temple will be built.

Quantrill
 
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