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    The most damaging evidences of the fraud of the Book of Mormon (redux)

    By Grace, you are missing the point. The point is that they were aware of the idea of using the wheel for transportation and chose for some reason not to use it, or they did use it, but we just haven’t found the artifacts, or none survived for us to find. Perhaps the reason they didn’t use...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Well, I have been the one who has been beating the “fruits†drum and now you feel you have me with my own criteria. But are these studies really about the fruits of Mormonism or are we jumping to conclusions here? Lets look a little deeper. These studies gathered no data about which...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    The testimony is only a prized asset if it is real. A testimony without realistic questioning is not real. Do really think we are so stupid that we don’t realize this? In saying you were mixed up, I was referring to the fact that your understanding of LDS teachings is inaccurate. I didn’t...
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    The most damaging evidences of the fraud of the Book of Mormon (redux)

    Thanks for at least considering that Mormons might have some intelligence and may possibly have an answer to this. The main reason given by the moderators for this thread being deleted earlier is that it had turned into a thread promoting the Book of Mormon. That says a lot right there as to...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    George, I think you are missing the point here. I have never said anything that would even infer that I expected the Christians of this forum to accept Mormon doctrine. Nor am I surprised when they reject it. I can’t see how you would get that from anything I have said. Now about the idea...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    I don’t get how you got that I was saying that you were baiting me. I was just trying to explain what I thought you were suspecting of me, which is baiting. Please go back and read my above quote. I certainly do not think you would want to bait me into breaking the rules. Such a thought has...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    George, I am admitting that my brand of Christianity is different from yours. I believe in the Christ of the Bible, but interpret some things in the Bible differently than you. I understand that you and the moderators of this forum do not accept my church to be a Christian church, so my comment...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    This is a fundamental misunderstanding of LDS teachings. Why does the church constantly teach that we each must find out for ourselves about anything in the church, if we are not allowed to question? This is one of the most fundamental beliefs Mormons share. Of course we must question or the...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    George, I think you are forgetting that this particular forum is to learn about other religions and compare their beliefs with that of Christians. At least that is what the title implies to me. If you can’t handle the idea that there can be other intelligent people who actually interpret the...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    So you think this is just throwing out bait to get you guys to ask me to support the beliefs in question, thus giving me an excuse to promote my doctrines under the guise of just answering your questions. I think that is what you are saying here and I agree that it is a valid concern. First...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Interesting perspective. Thanks for commenting on this.
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Another reason people leave the church is that they misunderstand its doctrines and rely on their assumptions about doctrines which are not actually real, and then become disillusioned when the false self-assumptions of these doctrines and even popular false assumptions within the church are...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Aren't we getting just a little melodramatic here? This thread was not intended to promote any doctrine at all. I simply asked for some different perspectives in answering a question. So far no one has taken me up on it. All anyone seems to want to do is proclaim the great evils of Mormonism...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    I have to agree with you on this one. When I started this thread, all I wanted was some different perspectives on answering the original question. So far, after all that has been said in this thread, no one has attempted to offer a complete answer to that original question. I would really love...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    I agree that this is a perfect example of why people leave the church. You get distracted by the least important issues that are not very well understood by even general authorities and miss the major things that really matter. The Bible isn’t even very clear on this. The reason that this...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    George, I believe you are a good man trying to do good. The concept I am trying to introduce you to is obviously too different from the traditions and assumptions you are accustomed to. I think at this point we just need to agree to disagree on this question about Paul. But just because we have...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Where in any of what I wrote could you have possibly come up with the idea that I believed that Paul only had parts of the truth. I have continually said the opposite. There is nothing in the Bible I do not believe or is there anything there that conflicts with my religion. Talk about twisting...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Good observation Webb. Let me explain. Because someone becomes sealed to someone, does not mean it involves sex. That is what was involved in many of these instances. Also, if God commands someone to practice polygamy and they resist obeying, because it is so opposite from their desires, until...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    First of all, I agree that Paul’s epistles contain the truth of the gospel. I have no problem with any of their teachings. But I believe you are missing something in Galatians 1:8. Paul is clearly referring to teachings he and others preached to the Galatians on some former occasion, which are...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    The book, Mormon Doctrine, was a scholarly pursuit by an apostle. It has never been accepted by the church as official “Mormon Doctrineâ€, and for that reason he was chastised by his superiors for naming it so. Most of what is in this book is accurate, but some things are only his opinion. In...
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