The most damaging evidences of the fraud of the Book of Mormon
Because my original thread has become something far different than I intended, I re-post the opening post as an effort to avoid some derailing issues of the previous thread.
wheel. (2008). Encyclopædia Britannica. Deluxe Edition. Chicago: Encyclopædia Britannica.
Using Google Earth the distance from Palmayra NY to Victor, NY is 15+ miles. and the distance is measured as two legs, the base and altitude of a right triangle. If one were to travel the hypotenuse, the distance would be less..
What then is the connection between the posts from the two places and the wheel article from Britannica? This place represented the high water mark of the Native Americans, and in particular the Five Civilized [Native American] Nations; they were decimated by the French in the French and Indian War in 1673, or so. So if these were pinnacle of any civilization, then there would be records, or relics of this happening, and theer are. I remember when I was in 6th grade, living outside Philadelphia, in a suburb that I studied these tribal nations. I was fascinated that the first Constitution of the United States, more accurately The Articles of Confederation were taken from this group. I wanted to see the bark-sided long house in person, and never dreamed that one day I would be able to live near that site. When I saw it I was amazed.
Historical documents of the wheel's existence state that the spoked wheel was first introduced in a Sumarian pictograph. In case you did not know, Sumaria was part of the area called the Fertile Crescent, and Abraham, the Father of the Jews came from another city called UR in the Fertile Crescent. Therefore, even though the word "wheel" is not mentioned in the Bible, the fact that the wheel existed can be demonstrated to be pre-Moses c 1300 BC and in the the Asia Minor (present day Turkey) in 2000 BC. The fact that the Bible DOES mention chariots several times, and of course the Egyptians had them demonstrates that the wheel was well used as a tool in the days before Christ in the Middle East area.
The legend of the Book of Mormon is that around 600 BC (late Iron Age) a group of Jews fled the Middle East area, and sailed on boats, down one side of Africa, and across the South Atlantic and the North Atlantic, into the Caribbean and began their civilization somewhere in the Caribbean lands, or South America. Somehow along the journey, they forgot to read Hebrew, they forgot to obey the Laws of Moses, they forgot how to write, they forgot how to smelt copper, or anything like that, they forgot how to build ships, and OF COURSE THEY FORGOT HOW TO CREATE A WHEEL.
In other words, a civilization based in the Middle East during the Iron age took a very long ocean voyage and then suddenly reverted into stone age camps of hunter-gatherers. And that describes the civilization level of the Native Americans until after the US Civil War area.
Archeologists can find examples of the usage of the wheel in the Middle East, and later throughout the world, but NO ONE has found the usage of the wheel FOR TRANSPORTATION anywhere in the Western Hemisphere. The absence of any sort of evidence for the wheel is surely the evidence of its absence in the "New World". Therefore, its absence is the single, most damaging evidence against the tales of the Book of Mormon.
Because my original thread has become something far different than I intended, I re-post the opening post as an effort to avoid some derailing issues of the previous thread.
WHEEL
a circular frame of hard material that may be solid, partly solid, or spoked and that is capable of turning on an axle.
A Sumarian (Erech) pictograph, dated about 3500 [SIZE=-1]BC[/SIZE], shows a sledge equipped with wheels. The idea of wheeled transportation may have come from the use of logs for rollers, but the oldest known wheels were wooden disks consisting of three carved planks clamped together by transverse struts.
Spoked wheels appeared about 2000 [SIZE=-1]BC[/SIZE], when they were in use on chariots in Asia Minor. Later developments included iron hubs (centerpieces) turning on greased axles, and the introduction of a tire in the form of an iron ring that was expanded by heat and dropped over the rim and that on cooling shrank and drew the members tightly together.
The use of a wheel (turntable) for pottery had also developed in Mesopotamia by 3500 [SIZE=-1]BC[/SIZE]....
from:a circular frame of hard material that may be solid, partly solid, or spoked and that is capable of turning on an axle.
A Sumarian (Erech) pictograph, dated about 3500 [SIZE=-1]BC[/SIZE], shows a sledge equipped with wheels. The idea of wheeled transportation may have come from the use of logs for rollers, but the oldest known wheels were wooden disks consisting of three carved planks clamped together by transverse struts.
Spoked wheels appeared about 2000 [SIZE=-1]BC[/SIZE], when they were in use on chariots in Asia Minor. Later developments included iron hubs (centerpieces) turning on greased axles, and the introduction of a tire in the form of an iron ring that was expanded by heat and dropped over the rim and that on cooling shrank and drew the members tightly together.
The use of a wheel (turntable) for pottery had also developed in Mesopotamia by 3500 [SIZE=-1]BC[/SIZE]....
wheel. (2008). Encyclopædia Britannica. Deluxe Edition. Chicago: Encyclopædia Britannica.
Ganadogan is the location of a major 17th-century Seneca town and palisaded granary. Three hundred years ago, near Ganondagan, the French led an army from Canada against the Seneca to annihilate them and eliminate them as competitors in the international fur trade. The Seneca refer to Ganondagan as the Town of Peace and revere and protect the burial site of the Mother of Nations here. Illustrated signs mark the three trails where visitors can learn about the significance of plant life to the Seneca, about Iroquois customs and beliefs, and about the features of Fort Hill (the granary) and the events that occurred there. A traditional Seneca longhouse has been completed and open to the public. Please call the site for details.
from http://www.nysparks.com/historic-sites/26/details.aspx
Please see the pictures on this site.
.from http://www.nysparks.com/historic-sites/26/details.aspx
Please see the pictures on this site.
Using Google Earth the distance from Palmayra NY to Victor, NY is 15+ miles. and the distance is measured as two legs, the base and altitude of a right triangle. If one were to travel the hypotenuse, the distance would be less..
Ganondagan (ga•NON•da•gan) State Historic Site in the town of Victor, 30 miles southeast of Rochester, NY sits on a hill where a once vibrant Native American community of the Seneca people stood. While the village where thousands lived is long gone, the spirit remains. That is, what makes Ganondagan so unique is its resonating spirit.
The Seneca’s were keepers of the western gate for the... Iroquois and five nations.
Ganondagan is called a Town of Peace after the Peacemaker, a prophet that united the Haudenosaunee and brought peace. The Peacemaker gave the Haudenosaunee the Great Law of Peace that would later serve as a basis for the USA constitution.
The site consists of 300 primarily wooded acres with several hiking trails. There is a visitor’s center with educational information and a video about Ganondagan. A replica of a bark longhouse allows visitors to experience first hand how life once was. There is also a garden conducive to meditation.
A strong sense of the positive and peace permeates the air. There are highly charges spots where one can feel the hair on the arms stand on end. What makes this even more unique is that the Seneca village that once stood there was wiped out over 300 years ago in 1687 by the New French over the fur trade. The fact that such positive energy still exists is a testament to the residents of Ganondagan who lived by “the right mind.â€
from http://www.jubileeinitiative.org/sacredganondagan.htmlThe Seneca’s were keepers of the western gate for the... Iroquois and five nations.
Ganondagan is called a Town of Peace after the Peacemaker, a prophet that united the Haudenosaunee and brought peace. The Peacemaker gave the Haudenosaunee the Great Law of Peace that would later serve as a basis for the USA constitution.
The site consists of 300 primarily wooded acres with several hiking trails. There is a visitor’s center with educational information and a video about Ganondagan. A replica of a bark longhouse allows visitors to experience first hand how life once was. There is also a garden conducive to meditation.
A strong sense of the positive and peace permeates the air. There are highly charges spots where one can feel the hair on the arms stand on end. What makes this even more unique is that the Seneca village that once stood there was wiped out over 300 years ago in 1687 by the New French over the fur trade. The fact that such positive energy still exists is a testament to the residents of Ganondagan who lived by “the right mind.â€
What then is the connection between the posts from the two places and the wheel article from Britannica? This place represented the high water mark of the Native Americans, and in particular the Five Civilized [Native American] Nations; they were decimated by the French in the French and Indian War in 1673, or so. So if these were pinnacle of any civilization, then there would be records, or relics of this happening, and theer are. I remember when I was in 6th grade, living outside Philadelphia, in a suburb that I studied these tribal nations. I was fascinated that the first Constitution of the United States, more accurately The Articles of Confederation were taken from this group. I wanted to see the bark-sided long house in person, and never dreamed that one day I would be able to live near that site. When I saw it I was amazed.
Historical documents of the wheel's existence state that the spoked wheel was first introduced in a Sumarian pictograph. In case you did not know, Sumaria was part of the area called the Fertile Crescent, and Abraham, the Father of the Jews came from another city called UR in the Fertile Crescent. Therefore, even though the word "wheel" is not mentioned in the Bible, the fact that the wheel existed can be demonstrated to be pre-Moses c 1300 BC and in the the Asia Minor (present day Turkey) in 2000 BC. The fact that the Bible DOES mention chariots several times, and of course the Egyptians had them demonstrates that the wheel was well used as a tool in the days before Christ in the Middle East area.
The legend of the Book of Mormon is that around 600 BC (late Iron Age) a group of Jews fled the Middle East area, and sailed on boats, down one side of Africa, and across the South Atlantic and the North Atlantic, into the Caribbean and began their civilization somewhere in the Caribbean lands, or South America. Somehow along the journey, they forgot to read Hebrew, they forgot to obey the Laws of Moses, they forgot how to write, they forgot how to smelt copper, or anything like that, they forgot how to build ships, and OF COURSE THEY FORGOT HOW TO CREATE A WHEEL.
In other words, a civilization based in the Middle East during the Iron age took a very long ocean voyage and then suddenly reverted into stone age camps of hunter-gatherers. And that describes the civilization level of the Native Americans until after the US Civil War area.
Archeologists can find examples of the usage of the wheel in the Middle East, and later throughout the world, but NO ONE has found the usage of the wheel FOR TRANSPORTATION anywhere in the Western Hemisphere. The absence of any sort of evidence for the wheel is surely the evidence of its absence in the "New World". Therefore, its absence is the single, most damaging evidence against the tales of the Book of Mormon.
