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    If not God

    I guess I would say that perfection is impossible to define. As a species, we strive for what we see as perfection, but in reality is only a man-made concept of what is perfect. We created God in our image and stripped him of all human "folly", whatever that is. In my opinion, there is no...
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    If not God

    I do know what it means, but I will admit it was probably misused. I guess I consider debasing someones beliefs as an attack against their person.
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    There is no God

    Oats, I think your God does not need proof. He needs faith. God is supernatural, and thus cannot be proved within the natural. Science cannot prove nor disprove the existence of god as it deals soley with the natural. The universe is the natural, which humans cannot comprehend beyond...
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    If not God

    @ Oats I'm sorry I don't really understand what you're asking. "The idea idea isn't [perfect]"? I don't believe I ever said god is perfect or imperfect. Rather, I said I don't see him as a logical explanation for mysteries we do not understand. As for life being imperfect: I am comparing to...
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    If not God

    Well in fairness he asked us the question here! And I'm really interested in religion because it has such a large impact on the culture that surrounds me. I'm hoping to get better aquainted with scripture next semester as I'm taking some theology courses in University. I believe in a well...
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    A world without Christianity

    I completely agree with you. I think its wonderful if faith is able to change someone's (and that of those around that person) life for the better. Ad hominim attacks against Christianity are as ignorant, hurtful, and well, stupid, as gay-bashing, racism, and all other forms of bigotry. If I...
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    If not God

    Which is why I've taken to saying "Cheese and Rice" :) I think its a little presumptive to think that all wonder and awe is directed to God. As a nonbeliever, my wonder and awe are directed nothing and at everything - The Natural World.
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    A world without Christianity

    This seems to be the thesis of your post. I completely agree with you, but I would expand to say "People make many mistakes, but they also achieve many great things, all because of who they are". Christianity is not alone in blundering (and should not bear all the criticism), but is also not...
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    If not God

    Why? Why not. The natural is so awesome that we need not go beyond it. I think my question in return would be why do we need a god to have meaning? There is a quote that sums up my beliefs perfectly. I dug through a book in an attempt to find the exact wording, but failed miserably...
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    A world without Christianity

    Now I would respectfully disagree that Christianity in the Western world predates science. Works of Aristotle (who predates Christ by almost four hundred years) clearly show the use of reasoning based on empirical evidence. For the other points, I think it boils down to a belief system. I...
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    A world without Christianity

    I think its a very difficult thing to pinpoint what would exist and what wouldn't exist if Christianity had never caught on. I would hesitate to claim things wouldn't exist simply because "a Christian founded them". Scientific innovations, for example, have far more to do with the motivation...
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    [_ Old Earth _] Does Atheism Make People Smarter?

    Ah sorry I agree with you guys about only shaping the west. I meant to say it has shaped my world significantly!
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    [_ Old Earth _] Does Atheism Make People Smarter?

    Now thats a little uncalled for! Talking to a DUMB atheist would make you feel smart. Talking to a smart atheist might make you feel dumb! The same could be said for an atheist talking to a smart or dumb Christian. The only validity I could see in this study (and this is stretching it a...
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    [_ Old Earth _] Does Atheism Make People Smarter?

    Atheists are likely on the forum for two reasons: 1) To argue and demean a belief system because they are bigots. 2) To have open discussions about issues pertaining to Christianity, which is a belief system that has (whether we like it or not) shaped much of the world we live in. If I...
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    What exactly do you believe?

    1. No 2. Old as it pertains to this discussion.
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    [_ Old Earth _] Does Atheism Make People Smarter?

    To Chris: I think you might be a bit confused about what an atheist actually is. There is no "belief system" of atheism beyond not believing in a god. And as my old Evolutionary Biology professor once told me, "Defining a group by what they DO NOT have is indicative that they most probably...
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    [_ Old Earth _] Does Atheism Make People Smarter?

    This is ridiculous. You are claiming that you are way ahead of someone doing good works and enriching the lives of people around them simply because you have faith. Despite your contradiction of beliefs with ChattyMute, she is living her life in a philosophy similar to that of Jesus...
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    [_ Old Earth _] One small question for evolutionists

    Bear in mind that the fossils we see tell us very little about the fine details of the organism. Undoubtedly there has been genetic change but little phenotypic alteration. I'm not sure whats so hard to understand about stabilizing selection. The environment that the lungfish inhabited did...
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    [_ Old Earth _] Gene Duplication Adapts To Changing Environment

    I think that is expected as duplication produces redundancy, and redundancy is certainly a selective advantage that can lead to more complex organisms. If you have one copy of a gene and it mutates (most likely a null mutation or a negative one) the organism might be SOL. If it has two copies...
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    What makes some people stop being a Christian?

    If I had to pick a word to describe my beliefs I guess I would say non-religious. I think the technical term is agnostic atheist or naturalist, but I don't really like the term atheist because it says something definite about the non-existence of a higher power. There really is no evidence one...
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