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  1. Physicist

    contradictions in the bible

    Re: Congratulations At least you will agree that the major translations of Luke Chapter 3 use 'son of'' Luke 3:24 KJV Which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which was the son of Joseph, NIV the son of Matthat, the...
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    contradictions in the bible

    Congratulations Congratulations! I thought I had seen all the Apologist assumptions related to this contradiction but you seem to have invented a new one. Of course, its false and easily refuted, but definitely original. Find any reputable translation that does not translate the Lukan list...
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    The Bible...take it or leave it ?

    I'm sure the iliad is not original I'm sure that the Homer's Iliad that we have today is not what the original poet said. It was passed down by generations of storytellers who would modify it to suit their audience. Still, what we have is a true masterpiece. The fact that it is not an inerrant...
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    contradictions in the bible

    A fair challenge No offense taken. If I make a scholarly assertion I should be prepared to defend it. So let me accept your fair challenge. However, one fundamental point I would disagree with you is the necessity of Biblical Inerrancy for Christian belief. Millions of Christians do not think...
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    The Bible...take it or leave it ?

    I have to ask Pardon me, but I have to ask, " Are these your true personal views? Occasionally non-believers will characachurize Christian views. If this is the case, I suggest moving it to Landover Baptist. My answer assumes that this IS your actual beliefs. Have you studied any of the...
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    contradictions in the bible

    Yes, lots of contradictions Yes, the Bible is riddled with contradictions. Some examples are the one mentioned above, plus the way that Judas died, the time of Jesus' death, the name of Joseph's father, the last words of Jesus, ...and many more. Can these be reconciled? Certainly, if you...
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    The Bible...take it or leave it ?

    A lot of gospels Well, if you like pseudographic texts, there was a gospel of Mary, Peter, Phillip... in fact just about any name connected to Jesus. Also, multiple letters by the same. The clerics that assembled the texts that make up your Bible did so for political and dogmatic, not...
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    The Bible...take it or leave it ?

    Paul didn't say this Most experts think that 2 Timothy was written in the second century, long after Paul was dead. Moreover, when Paul refers to the 'Scriptures' in his genuine letters, he is referring to OT, and perhaps ancient Hebrew writings that did not make it into the Bible, because...
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    Biblical Types and Shadows

    Cart before horse? With regard to what you call 'shadows', how do you know it was not simply midrash? As the Dead Sea Scrolls illustrate, first century Hebrews would sometimes take basic OT text and load it with new meaning for their current times. Why cannot we assume that the NT authors did...
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    Can God's Existence be Proven through Science?

    Trust, evidence, and faith. What you call empiricists I would call realists. They make judgments based upon the best available evidence. Realists understand the science and engineering behind the moon landings, can either see movies or perhaps experience in person the rocket launches, even look...
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    Did Adam and Eve really exist?

    Yes, archeological evidence supports the existence of Hezekiah just as the archeological evidence supports the existence of Hammurabi, but both are ascribed genealogies that are highly questionable unless one takes their sacred writings on faith. The archeological evidence supports human...
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    The Literal Bible and Evolution

    Pardon my insertion here, but as practicing scientist. I would like to correct some misconceptions in the above paragraph. The Theory of Natural Selection, first proposed by Darwin over a century ago, remains the bedrock for modern biology as the best explanation for the observed evolution of...
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    Can God's Existence be Proven through Science?

    I am not sure I agree with you, even in this example. I could, for example, postulate that adultery causes an electrical imbalance in the adulterer that attracts lightning. Or, I could postulate a mad scientist who developed a machine to punish adulterers or space aliens conducting a social...
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    Did Adam and Eve really exist?

    Romans used to trace their ancestry back to Romulus and Remus, and before them, Aeneas, the Trojan. Obviously, somewhere along the line, the ancestry became fictional. With regard to Isaiah, we could start with him. How do we know he existed? There is uncertainty when and if he existed so...
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    Can God's Existence be Proven through Science?

    Postulating the existence of anything else, god(s), space aliens from another dimension etc to be the creators of the Universe violates Occam's razor. We might as well simply conclude that the Universe exists, as it has for all time (remember, time is a 'property' of the Universe, so there is no...
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    new user question

    Thanks Heather
  17. Physicist

    new user question

    My apologies if this is the wrong place to post this question. As a new user, I have some difficulty in determining the link between posts in individual threads. In another forum I have used, it is possible to see the posts in a tree-like format. Is that possible here? If not, are there any...
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    Can God's Existence be Proven through Science?

    The only difference that I could see would be if you applied Occam's razor. Positing a Creator would add one more entity, but it violates no logical rule that I know. I think the question of why there is anything is unresolved, and perhaps unresolvable. Saying God created it begs the question...
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    Can God's Existence be Proven through Science?

    As this is my first post, allow my to introduce myself. I am a research physicist working for the US government, and am probably older than any of you. :) In your thread, I see a common misunderstanding about the Universe and the Big Bang. Since Einstein, we no longer consider the Universe to...
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