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  1. Jamsie

    Should every Christian be a Pacifist?

    Deborah13 -So maybe your differences here is semantics. What is your definition of 'pacifist' compared to say jason's or mine. I imagine our definitions are the same. Notice what I wrote.."As for pacifism in general I often think of Dietrich Bonhoeffer..". In general Bonhoeffer embraced a...
  2. Jamsie

    Should every Christian be a Pacifist?

    jasonc - bohoeffer plotted to kill hitler via bombing his meeting, hardly a pacifist. Unless one has read of Bonhoeffer's decision they shouldn't comment on how it relates to pacifism. A great figure of the twentieth century who confronted a moral dilemma with courage and intelligence.
  3. Jamsie

    Should every Christian be a Pacifist?

    Chopper - My Son in law, is a pacifist. My Son is not. Considering the Old Testament and the New Testament. What should the Christian of today do in regard to a "home evasion". I recall a story concerning my pastor, many years ago, who was asked by a person "If I hit you aren't you required to...
  4. Jamsie

    [_ Old Earth _] Give Me A Break

    duari91 - Elaborate. If you would like to discuss our various views of the Genesis creation account then I would be glad to do so. I specifically said "based on scripture" because I find any in-depth discussion of "scientific evidence" quite fruitless and gave that up years ago. One can...
  5. Jamsie

    [_ Old Earth _] Give Me A Break

    duari91 - You don't really have an edge in this discussion, as an Atheist that is. All I see is an Atheist with an angry diatribe against myself, religion, and the fact that you don't like your theory to be smeared. Thank everyone all you want, it's not helping your case. Specifically arguing...
  6. Jamsie

    [_ Old Earth _] Give Me A Break

    Milkdrops - Thanks for your time everyone and thank you for reading. No really, Thank You ... no need for me to reply. Either a person is convinced or not or whether a person can convince another of their position. "Convince another" on discussion boards is a rather rare event wouldn't you...
  7. Jamsie

    [_ Old Earth _] Give Me A Break

    duari suggests: God could interject and guide the process of evolution, but then it wouldn't be darwinian evolution. It would be some other form of it. It's not offensive necessarily. It's downright false and impossible, because God ends the matter. Some people don't like to accept it...
  8. Jamsie

    [_ Old Earth _] Give Me A Break

    Sparrowhawke - Is it possible that God has hidden things? Are there things that have been seen to be beyond our understanding? I think there is no doubt that humanity will never have all the answers but that certainly doesn’t mean that considerable knowledge can’t be obtained through science...
  9. Jamsie

    [_ Old Earth _] Give Me A Break

    Sparrowhawke - "... the evidence Paul referred to..." Be more explicit, please? If I may interject...I would simply suggest that from Romans 1:20 "...being understood from what has been made". The understanding comes from the human enterprises comprised in the various disciplines of science...
  10. Jamsie

    [_ Old Earth _] Give Me A Break

    Sparrowhawke -Jamsie, your allegation of "conspiracy" and "manipulation" is unfounded. I apologize as I should not have directed this to you, it was in relation to a previous post by another. I don't take your claim seriously and would guess that you too believe that the message found in the...
  11. Jamsie

    [_ Old Earth _] Give Me A Break

    Sparrowhawke - Yes, Barbarian. We do have other ways to "prove" what we assume. But it wasn't "proved" by assumption or presupposition but rather the accumulated evidence by various scientific disciplines. The fact that these different disciplines, astronomy, mathematics, geology, etc., should...
  12. Jamsie

    [_ Old Earth _] Give Me A Break

    Barbarian - In science, it's a phenomenon. Evolution as a worldview, is a myth perpetuated by the professional creationists, and not found elsewhere. This is what I was referring to: http://www.co-intelligence.org/EvolutionaryWorldview.html
  13. Jamsie

    [_ Old Earth _] Give Me A Break

    Sparrowhawke - I'm a bit unclear, are you suggesting that Heb. 1:3 contradicts or conflicts with Romans 1:20?
  14. Jamsie

    [_ Old Earth _] Give Me A Break

    Sparrowhawke - Was Adam born or was he formed of the dust of the earth? I believe that we are all made from the dust of the earth? Is there a difference between the appearance of age and the appearance of history?
  15. Jamsie

    [_ Old Earth _] Give Me A Break

    Jeff77 - It seems like if someone was actually able to say evolution is how God created us then it would be a big victory for Christians yet many atheist use it to prove there is not a God. There is a considerable difference between "evolution" as a process and "Evolution" as an all...
  16. Jamsie

    [_ Old Earth _] Give Me A Break

    Jeff77 - I would like to know how the theistic evolutionist make the link between God and evolution, or how can you prove that it was definitely God that used this specific way to create us? Ecclesiastes 3:11 expresses my overall thoughts on our capabilities, actually the limits. "Prove" and...
  17. Jamsie

    [_ Old Earth _] Give Me A Break

    Sparrowhawke - I'd be interested in hearing what you're thinking in greater detail. For instance, how exactly would the "appearance of age" dismiss Romans 1:20? I see "power" (dynamis) as His creation/sovereignty/miraculous displays and His "divine nature"(Omnipotent, omniscient...
  18. Jamsie

    [_ Old Earth _] Give Me A Break

    Sparrowhawke -"It is possible that God created with the appearance of age." I don't see how the "Appearance of age" model can be anything but totally dismissive of Romans 1:20. For humankind to acquire and possess any knowledge of God would necessitate the ability/endowment of mental (and...
  19. Jamsie

    Thank you reba ....trying to find mt way around. Hoping I can post soon.....will try and find...

    Thank you reba ....trying to find mt way around. Hoping I can post soon.....will try and find where to say "Yes". It has been quite a few years since I've been on forums.
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