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  1. ObjMoVa

    Moral beliefs

    You see, man doesn't have to be aware of the negative impacts of incest for natural selection to make it revolting to us. As you look at the natural world you can see that as animals get more complex, they become less and less likely to engage in in-breeding. If animals did not have a...
  2. ObjMoVa

    God is a psychotic murderer

    What if that authority is telling you to drown newborns? Am I wrong to point my finger then? What if that authority tells me to kill every woman and child in a set geographical location? I would say unquestioning belief in any authority is more of the 3rd grade mindset, particularly if there...
  3. ObjMoVa

    Moral beliefs

    God tells us that it's wrong to commit adultery. If God is telling us this because adultery is damaging to families and thus weakens humanity, then we can say that Adultery is wrong because it damages family. God is commanding us not to commit this act due to a reason. I'm claiming that you...
  4. ObjMoVa

    Moral beliefs

    I hold that our moral beliefs hold purpose. The rejection of incest as a means of reproduction serves the purpose of protecting our potential offspring from defects. I hold that they maintain this purpose, even without the backing of divine word. I'm trying to hit on the difference between...
  5. ObjMoVa

    God is a psychotic murderer

    Of course some of the commandments are morally correct. And if people refrain from murder because of their belief in the commandments, then there's no doubt some good is done there. I'm simply positing that "thou shalt not kill" is a good ideal in itself, not just because God said so. If God...
  6. ObjMoVa

    Moral beliefs

    Exactly!
  7. ObjMoVa

    Moral beliefs

    I mean absolutely no mockery, and I'm very sorry if it seemed as though that was my intention. I read the TOS as well as the individual board rules, and came to the conclusion that the Apologetic/Theology board would be appropriate to discuss matters of the Christian Faith that I am curious...
  8. ObjMoVa

    Moral beliefs

    Well incest negatively impacts us on a genetic level. Children born of incest (in any species) have a much higher rate of defects that reduce their ability to survive. We have evolved to be off-put by incest because it damages our species genetically. This "natural disgust" is also why we...
  9. ObjMoVa

    God is a psychotic murderer

    Atheists don't believe that there is no necessity for good behavior. Bill Maher is just as reviled by the murder and torture of innocents as you are. And may I just add that I find it increasingly more insulting when I hear that as an atheist I have no reason to believe in doing good. I don't...
  10. ObjMoVa

    buying and selling

    I don't see where you pick up the part about saying "the right things". I think it's saying you cannot sell the name/number of the beast without having the mark. Now I don't really know what the mark is referring to, but in this passage, it allows one to sell the name/number of the beast.
  11. ObjMoVa

    Moral beliefs

    But isn't re-drawing the line key to our moral growth as a society? We've re-drawn the line on slavery. We're working really hard to re-draw the line on homosexuality, and when was the last time your community stoned someone to death for working on Sunday? I would suggest that re-drawing the...
  12. ObjMoVa

    Moral beliefs

    Thanks for the responses everyone! I'd like to kind of state my opposed case, and then I'll respond to some really good points that have been made so far. This is consistent with the christian opinion I've heard on campus so far. I think this outlook can be summed up as follows (i'll use...
  13. ObjMoVa

    buying and selling

    So you're saying that these passages are promoting an open discourse about Christian beliefs? If so then this is a very good interpretation.
  14. ObjMoVa

    Moral beliefs

    Hello everyone. I'm an atheist, and i'm very interested in human morality. I've heard many of my Christian peers claim that without God there would be no morality. They claim there would be no right or wrong without God. I cannot help but disagree. I would like to hear what you have to say...
  15. ObjMoVa

    Hello all. An atheist with questions here.

    Hello everyone, It's good to find such an active christian forum. I'm excited to engage in some discussions about theology, religion, morality, evidence, and rationality! I think the issues of morality are what motivate me most to be vocal about my position and to seek out people of faith. And...
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