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  1. Wheat Field

    Is Matthew 24:34 grounds for skepticism?

    I guess I am a little perplexed at this phrase 'the last days' which intuitively seems at odds with a 2000 year period of time. Would anyone describe their time as 'the last days' if at least 2000 years (some 730 thousand days) were to follow?
  2. Wheat Field

    Is Matthew 24:34 grounds for skepticism?

    Is there any doubt that the apostle Peter thought that the last days had come? Acts 2:14-21 Then Peter stood up with the Eleven, raised his voice and addressed the crowd: “Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain this to you; listen carefully to what I say. These people...
  3. Wheat Field

    Is Matthew 24:34 grounds for skepticism?

    The notion that Jesus returned in AD70 is beyond comprehension; a non-event if ever there was one. Or have I misunderstood your post?
  4. Wheat Field

    Is Matthew 24:34 grounds for skepticism?

    Might be worth focusing on v. 33 which may be translated 'he' rather than 'it'. If we take on board the fact that Jesus, in predicting the end time and his parousia, must not be limited in any way as to the exact moment when it will occur, then 'this generation' must be 'allowed' to reference...
  5. Wheat Field

    Is Matthew 24:34 grounds for skepticism?

    Thanks miamited - that makes sense. Would you like to respond to the rest of my post - that Jesus' response to his disciples questions is a special case...that 'this' (generation) does not have to mean those to whom he was speaking since they are asking when the end will come which could be any...
  6. Wheat Field

    Is Matthew 24:34 grounds for skepticism?

    Do we take it that the signs that Jesus refers to are literally in relation to Israel and the Jews? He mentions Judea and the 'abomination that causes desolation' (which I assume is a reference to The Temple).
  7. Wheat Field

    Is Matthew 24:34 grounds for skepticism?

    Do you think it right to infer that Jesus, who was sent only for the lost sheep of Israel, is indeed speaking to Jews who see such signs? In Mat. 24:15ff his references are Jewish. In reading the entire passage again, I cannot help but consider it a special case because it is about when in the...
  8. Wheat Field

    Is Matthew 24:34 grounds for skepticism?

    In the Olivet discourse Jesus makes many specific points that are to be warning signs. You are suggesting that his warning about the abomination isn't literal - but why stop there? Indeed, where do we draw the line - literal or metaphor? So for example Matthew 24:7-8 Nation will rise against...
  9. Wheat Field

    Is Matthew 24:34 grounds for skepticism?

    Sorry, I'm not entirely clear journeyman - perhaps you could explain further? Regarding the specifics of this thread - previously here you have said: The "abomination which causes desolation" is the rejection of Gods' Word, which is what happened when Jesus was condemned. Surely this is...
  10. Wheat Field

    Is Matthew 24:34 grounds for skepticism?

    I understand, yes - but I am wondering about your logic. Is it possible to reason out your conclusion? I guess what I am saying is why couldn't Jesus have just said that? He specifically spoke about the Daniel reference...though it seems even that isn't definitively understood. I do feel a...
  11. Wheat Field

    Is Matthew 24:34 grounds for skepticism?

    I still don't understand why you have interpreted Jesus' Olivet discourse in the way that you have. I was hoping for an explanation. I'm not even saying you are wrong.
  12. Wheat Field

    Is Matthew 24:34 grounds for skepticism?

    I have read through all your posts on this thread (I'm not singling you out - I do intend to do it for everyone who has posted here) and I remain confused by your position. Jesus warns those that are true believers in him to watch out for a certain occurrence and then to flee: Matthew 24:15-21...
  13. Wheat Field

    Is there tension between the NT and the OT with regard to sexual immorality?

    If the taking of multiple wives is a sin, then how is it possible that the Song of Solomon became part of the canon? Why would John Piper's ministry website say that it: '...poetically unfurls the glory of marriage and sex in a way that lauds complementarian monogamy'. That is an unconscionable...
  14. Wheat Field

    Is Matthew 24:34 grounds for skepticism?

    Surely it is worth noting that the desecration of the temple by the Romans in 70AD happened at the end of the siege. No one, including any Christians mindful of Jesus' words to flee (once they'd seen the 'abomination that causes desolation') would have had the opportunity to do so.
  15. Wheat Field

    Is Matthew 24:34 grounds for skepticism?

    Not the Holy of Holies though. This (the Passover) was Nissan not Tishri if I am not mistaken.
  16. Wheat Field

    Is Matthew 24:34 grounds for skepticism?

    I do NOT assert that Christ was wrong. I am merely asking for a satisfactory explanation of Matthew 24:34, Mark 13:20 and Luke 21:32. I do think and agree there is a significance to the fact that Israel is surrounded by enemies and that the whole world may end up siding with them if they...
  17. Wheat Field

    Is Matthew 24:34 grounds for skepticism?

    ? Could you explain please Consecrated Life?
  18. Wheat Field

    Is Matthew 24:34 grounds for skepticism?

    I see. When do you think the book of Revelation was written? I believe most scholars have it as 95AD.
  19. Wheat Field

    Is Matthew 24:34 grounds for skepticism?

    In looking into this subject I realize I don't know enough Jesus includes his return in the 'all these things' - but you didn't mention it - can I ask why? Matthew 24:30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see...
  20. Wheat Field

    Is there tension between the NT and the OT with regard to sexual immorality?

    As noted in the OP, adulterers wont inherit the kingdom of God. Paul actually says: do not be deceived. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes...
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