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    Raptures – Tribulation

    [ I read your site Am I to understand you believe the church took the place of Israel? If so it is understandable how you are inclined to see the Tribulation. A study of Israel and covenants God made with them I don't believe has changed Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people( Israel)...
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    Raptures – Tribulation

    The question is how does your view of the rapture effect you walk with the Lord. If i helps great, And do you think we are in the end times.
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    Raptures – Tribulation

    No not more we cant its excepting him as (born of the spirit) confessing Jesus as the only way. Only his righousness that has made us child of God Its still a gift. Faith in him and not letting that Love grow luke warm, keep it as when you first believed The letters to the churches explains...
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    Raptures – Tribulation

    I think the letters to the churches explain who will and who wont go through the tribulation and are warnings of what not to do and are ashamed doing when he appears. Yeshua also said John 6 v39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose...
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    Raptures – Tribulation

    [ So if you think we go through it that would be like saying quote (ok bride let me beat the living tar out of you and then lets go get married )(Thes 4 v18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words)..The Great Trib or known as Jacobs Trouble would start in the middle of the seven years...
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    Raptures – Tribulation

    Just an conjecture Kathi but,,,,,,,, Maybe that is why it is called the Great AND Terrible Day of the Lord Great for some Terrible for others
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    Raptures – Tribulation

    Different positions I see. Not exactly one doctrine but that is to be expected. Hi, if you believe other than pre-trib I will not go into a lengthly rebuttal to try to change your mind you are entitled to what you believe I agree to disagree. It will all come to pass one day. I think the...
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    Raptures – Tribulation

    Sense? There is no doubt in my mind.
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    Raptures – Tribulation

    i agree, I lived in New Mexico for 38 years, you see alot. More than I should expound on in this forum
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    Raptures – Tribulation

    You are absolutely right, the very same. The word RAPTURE comes from the LATIN VULGATE BIBLE from the Latin word "raptus," and also the Latin word "rapiemur,"
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    Raptures – Tribulation

    Oh YEY! Nice touch Kathi secret or no I think it should be a little on the conspicuous side. Will people notice you are gone? (:
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    Raptures – Tribulation

    Oh Im sorry, I forgot to say the coming very very soon rapture (:
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    Raptures – Tribulation

    In the old testament could these verses out of Psalms refer to the rapture? 27 v5 For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock. 27 v6 And now shall mine head be lifted up above mine enemies round...
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    Raptures – Tribulation

    If the Midrash shows that prophecy is pattern than this looks like warnings from God of things to come Blood red waters https://www.google.com/#q=blood+red+waters+texas&tbm=vid Frogs https://www.google.com/#tbm=vid&q=frog+infestations+ fish dying...
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    Raptures – Tribulation

    In Revelation 1 v3 The Lord is talking about a blessing to who ever reads the book of Revelation. There is a blessing for reading it. Revelation says 1 v3 Blessed is he that reads , and hears the words of this prophecy, and keep (watch) for the time is at hand and we can see many things...
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    Raptures – Tribulation

    Preterism will stop you from researching further thats why. No expectancy there. I for one would like to have that blessing. Revelation 1 v3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. We...
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    Raptures – Tribulation

    I don't take Preterism or partial preterism to seriously. Post Tribulation denies NT teaching of immanency We are to expect him at any moment and many Denominations teach Post Tribulation I understand this Allegorical or Literal is the question and Eschatology derives from ones Hermeneutics...
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    Raptures – Tribulation

    This was all foretold in the old Testement yes Yeshua (Jesus) God is salvation
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    Raptures – Tribulation

    No not satan Jesus Gods only son were both in heaven before Jesus sent to earth to become a man also to be the perfect sacrifice willingly John 1 v 1 In the beginning there was the word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God Mary was a...
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    Raptures – Tribulation

    The jewish wedding is a model for it. The bridegroom negotiated the price for the young woman and paid her father the price for the bride (Jesus paid the price for US) He died for us. It was finished paid in full. When the groom departed to prepare a new home for the bride then a surprise...
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