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    OSAS is biblical truth.

    Its in the OP Dad. John 5:24 is not a salvation verse. It is not speaking of belief in Jesus Christ For salvation. It is the Father teaching those who have already believed in the Son that they have eternal security. Eternal security comes from the Father. Yes the Jewish God Is teaching us...
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    OSAS is biblical truth.

    Hebrews 3 starts of with people who have had the "heavenly calling", which should be translated "heavenly vocation"....full time Christian service. So Hebrews goes on to teach these mature believers that are in this "House of vocation" (Full time service) to be honest and teach true bible...
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    JOHN CALVIN HIMSELF MODIFIED HIS POSITION AND OPPOSED HIS OWN FORMER TEACHING OF "LIM

    Re: JOHN CALVIN HIMSELF MODIFIED HIS POSITION AND OPPOSED HIS OWN FORMER TEACHING OF We should not forget John Calvins theocracy In Geneva. He valiantly attempted to force the Genevans to live according to biblical standards without regard to whether they had been predestined to such a life...
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    Message to GOD"S elect

    John 6:29~~Jesus answered and said to them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent." Josefnospam, From all the posts I have read from you, I assume that you are a new believer or have found a place that is teaching Hyper- Calvinism that is antagonizing your personal...
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    Message to GOD"S elect

    I would use Eph 2:1-10 as a Glorious declaration of How GRACE found us.
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    Message to GOD"S elect

    The Devil(Satan) Himself teaches limited atonement. You have it flip flopped. The Sovereignty of God has not saved ONE person since the Dawn of Man. The Justice of God through His Grace has saved ANYONE who has believed. Christ satisfied The Fathers Justice on the Cross. The only way to the...
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    OSAS is biblical truth.

    very, very interesting! I have a hunch about something but do not know for sure? Why would you bring up John Calvin? Because His teaching and the reformation has made shipwreck of true grace and mercy. If you have classified me as a calvinist, no wonder you cannot see anything I write. T~~ we...
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    OSAS is biblical truth.

    The King James version got Rom 8:1 wrong. ...., who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.~~ is NOT in the original language. Romans 8:1~~There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.PERIOD.
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    OSAS is biblical truth.

    Rom 8:1~~There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. The verb “are” is eime in the Greek and means the absolute status quo existence, referring to those who always keep on being in Christ Jesus. If there was a chance you could lose your salvation, it would not say...
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    OSAS is biblical truth.

    Yes Jethro, a Good Greek study will show that you are mistaken. The moment you believe you are forever saved by the object of Your faith, Christ. Its a one shot deal and its done. One has to deny the Greek and the original God breathed word to come to your conclusion. We can either take it or...
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    OSAS is biblical truth.

    What is being overlooked is 2 Tim 2:11~~It is a trustworthy statement: For if we died with Him, we will also live with Him; For IF we died with Him, is a first class conditional clause. If we have died with AND WE HAVE, we will also live with Him.....our union with Christ, we are a part of Him...
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    OSAS is biblical truth.

    We have to believe. We all have the ability to believe or not. Common Grace is for all men. Any man can believe. Effectual Grace is when the Holy Spirit takes the mustard seed of faith from a spiritually dead creature and makes it effective for salvation. When we are speaking of normal and...
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    OSAS is biblical truth.

    That is the whole point of the OP George. It is by Grace. And that Grace is from God. the Grace of God saves Sinners, not the Idea of grace from His Creatures. Gods grace saves and not a creature alive can change or manipulate that grace by the creatures behavior or actions. Gods Grace saves...
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    What does the term "flesh" mean?

    He was always empowered with the holy Spirit. Nothing changed for Christ at his baptism. What he was to this world changed at his baptism. It was made known to the Creatures around Him of who and what he was at His baptism, Just like ours. We are Identified with Christ. Christ was Identified to...
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    What does the term "flesh" mean?

    He was conceived and Born with it. The Fullness. Just like we are the moment we are born again. We have everything we need at the moment we believe. We just have no clue how to utilize all that fullness, it is there none the less though. edit: this could be read wrong. We have no deity or...
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    OSAS is biblical truth.

    Looks to me as if Jethro and JBL have sucked you in. You do not see it though. They are saying the exact same thing you are saying. By what you have posted here, you are saying that the Greek is wrong in the OP. Show me where the Greek and How it is presented in the OP is Wrong. Someone...
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    OSAS is biblical truth.

    Did you actually read the OP Jethro? You are ignoring the PROOF of eternal security. You are using experiential sanctification verses for a believer or warning verses for the unbeliever to prove conditional security and I am using clear DOGMATIC verses that prove eternal security. Who makes our...
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    What does the term "flesh" mean?

    What changed about his nature? Adam Died spiritually. He no longer had a intimate personal relationship with the Lord. That relationship was gone and the freewill that Adam and eve had always had a tendency for Sin Now. Dying spiritually changed Adams Nature. Gen 2:17~~There are actually 2...
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    What does the term "flesh" mean?

    The Hypostatic union..... In the person of the incarnate Christ are two natures, divine and human, inseparably united without mixture or loss of separate identity, without loss or transfer of properties or attributes, the union being personal and eternal. Man Carries the sin nature in His...
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    OSAS is biblical truth.

    They are not ignored. We can't get past salvation and How truly simple it is. We can't go beyond that. We all sit at salvation and never get to some meat. For Christians ALL of these warnings are for our experiential,on going,progressive sanctification. And Have NOTHING to do with our...
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