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  1. Alfred Persson

    God's plan is so perfect, so complex, shortsighted Arminians and Calvinists just can't fathom it.

    Incorrect, the emphasis is on "all", the literal meaning of the Greek πᾶς translated "whoever". It means "πᾶς all everyone who by his libertarian free will believes": KJV John 3:15 That whosoever (3956 πᾶς pas) believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. NIV John 3:15 that...
  2. Alfred Persson

    Christ Jesus came into the world to save ALL sinners

    Scripture isn't written for God to understand, but for us linear finite creatures to understand. Believe in Jesus, then you are saved; Salvation follows belief, linear events. What you say is absurd: "All who BECOME Christians" were already Christians? Typical. Arminian refuses to believe...
  3. Alfred Persson

    Christ Jesus came into the world to save ALL sinners

    Predestinated unconfromed to be conformed, so how is that Predestined saved to be saved?
  4. Alfred Persson

    Christ Jesus came into the world to save ALL sinners

    So those "conformed to the image of His Son" are unsaved people? Prove it.
  5. Alfred Persson

    God's plan is so perfect, so complex, shortsighted Arminians and Calvinists just can't fathom it.

    Calvin and Arminius are like two shortsighted observers who can barely see only half of the elephant. One can see only the head to the middle of its body, the other only the tail to the middle of its body. So both agree what an Elephant's torso looks like, but fight tooth and nail when...
  6. Alfred Persson

    Christ Jesus came into the world to save ALL sinners

    Actually, both are shortsighted seeing only half the elephant, one standing at the head and the other at the tail. So both agree what an Elephant's torso looks like, but as they can't see past the middle they dispute what the entire elephant looks like. One sees only the hind parts, the other...
  7. Alfred Persson

    Christ Jesus came into the world to save ALL sinners

    No, that is incorrect. The devil's children sin continually. John didn't say anything about pretending. God's children live a life of repentance because they do sin and hate it. That shows they are children of God. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and...
  8. Alfred Persson

    Christ Jesus came into the world to save ALL sinners

    Just as you misunderstand scripture, you misunderstand me. For exampe, 1 John 3:8 is literally "the (one) doing the sin", the verb is present active "committing" sin as a life practice, just as the devil sins as a life practice. That is how we know who the children of the devil are and who are...
  9. Alfred Persson

    Christ Jesus came into the world to save ALL sinners

    At Jamnia (90 AD). Rabbinic tradition by the 2nd century settled on 24 books corresponding to the 39 books of the Protestant Canon. I consider the apocrapha unreliable, uninspired opinions of men.
  10. Alfred Persson

    Christ Jesus came into the world to save ALL sinners

    Not at all. Everyone born into the Kosmos since its foundation gets to see the light of Christ, but the children of the Devil reject it: 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. ... 9 That was the true...
  11. Alfred Persson

    How to avoid the mark of the beast

    When the Beast makes his headquarters in Jerusalem (as the false Christ), those who believe the real Jesus Christ will flee. Scripture does give a location where they may be safe for a time. In the land of Jordan and Negev desert of Israel: 40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the...
  12. Alfred Persson

    How to avoid the mark of the beast

    If Israel could effectively hunt down the leaders of Hezbollah in a few weeks, with today's technology...how much easier will it be for the Beast with a quantum computing AI networked with every smart device, that reports in real time everything happening around them? Rather than try to hide...
  13. Alfred Persson

    Christ Jesus came into the world to save ALL sinners

    I was unclear. God is Sovereign. He chose the Jews to preserve His Scripture, and they did both OT and NT. The canons that were "canonized by council" simply agreed with the evident and manifest will of God The OT canon was formalized by the Jews, the NT canon by Gentiles but the criteria they...
  14. Alfred Persson

    Christ Jesus came into the world to save ALL sinners

    Hypothetically, a child of the devil could use their free will and become a child of God. God doesn't prevent that. But it will not happen, children of the devil don't WANT to be holy and good, they want evil. That's who they are. So it is NOT God's fault they don't repent, its theirs...
  15. Alfred Persson

    Christ Jesus came into the world to save ALL sinners

    You can educate me on that. Its not history I am familiar with.
  16. Alfred Persson

    Christ Jesus came into the world to save ALL sinners

    The body of Christ is One subsisting in many denominations throughout Christendom. They are distinguishable from the TARES surrounding them. They are in a state of repentance, and love God and the brethren. They radiate Christ, evangelize to whatever degree God has equipped them.
  17. Alfred Persson

    Christ Jesus came into the world to save ALL sinners

    Good, when you have time lets discuss these in full. I consider the 66 books "ecumenical" precisely because the church universal agrees (and the Jews on the OT) these are canon. I reject Scripture has lost even one jot or tittle of meaning; All will be fulfilled: For verily I say unto you...
  18. Alfred Persson

    Christ Jesus came into the world to save ALL sinners

    Correction, I accept Canonized scripture, not the apocrypha some suppose is also scripture. The evidence for the Protestant canon is its acceptance in the world wide church, while the other lesser accepted books are not accepted in the "universal church". That would be the work of the Holy...
  19. Alfred Persson

    Christ Jesus came into the world to save ALL sinners

    Good argument, but no win. The Seputagint's apocraphal books are not quoted. Therefore, your premise the apocryphal books in it are canon is unsupported. I accept your clarification about church and pillar. The use of Icons in any form during worship is clearly rejected by God: 15 "Take...
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