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    IS HELL FOREVER?

    Free - turnorburn I believe the Lazarus person and the rich man are also fictional characters. The whole story is describing our relationship with God using the subject of idolatry.
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    Losing Salvation after getting saved?

    Goodbye.
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    Losing Salvation after getting saved?

    I trust his blood that was shed on the cross. Let's move on man, we've been at it for about a month now.
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    Losing Salvation after getting saved?

    Yeah, you're saying to keep trusting the blood in your own continued faith. You're trusting in your own works and not what Jesus already completed on the cross. JLB I think we've hit a dead end. Good luck to you.
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    Losing Salvation after getting saved?

    Of course it doesn't, it has to do with their eternal state. Rev 21:7-8 is a vision given to John about those who will live on the New Earth and those who will be condemned. It's revealing the condition of the believer and nonbelievers eternal state. (Rev 21:7-8 Those who are victorious will...
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    Losing Salvation after getting saved?

    Yeah, religious christians who are not born again will not overcome. The second death will not hurt them. God does not throw his own children into the lake of fire. Notice it says family here.. Eph 1:5 God decided in advance to adopt us into his own family by bringing us to himself through...
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    IS HELL FOREVER?

    Please create a new thread for soul sleep. Let's not derail this one.
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    Losing Salvation after getting saved?

    Oh I agree, but if you don't it's loss of rewards not salvation.
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    Losing Salvation after getting saved?

    Yup, and it's not talking about born again christians. God loves you JLB, he's not gonna forsake you. Trust in his blood my friend. His blood is your blood now.
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    Losing Salvation after getting saved?

    But you don't trust that blood to keep you saved? God loves you Jethro, he's not gonna forsake you.
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    Losing Salvation after getting saved?

    Ok, do you also believe that (1.) He is God in the flesh (2.) God deity (3.) and one with the Father.
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    IS HELL FOREVER?

    soul sleep is another topic. please make new thread about soul sleep if you need to discuss it.
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    IS HELL FOREVER?

    By Grace I believe in soul sleep. Soul sleep is not false. Believers will be resurrected at the first resurrection and nonbelievers at the great white throne.
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    Losing Salvation after getting saved?

    Who is Jesus to you Jethro, if I may ask. I'd like to learn your position.
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    IS HELL FOREVER?

    I'm simply proving that Isa 66:22-24 has nothing to do with the afterlife, but Mark 9:43-48 does.
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    Losing Salvation after getting saved?

    We already discussed this though, there are two types of unbelieving.
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    Losing Salvation after getting saved?

    Maybe God put in some people the seed of OSAS, and maybe God put in others the seed of NON-OSAS so we can be aware of scriptures we weren't aware of. Maybe debating is part of God's purpose to go deeper into his Word. Maybe that's why people debate year after year. Maybe the devil has nothing to...
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    IS HELL FOREVER?

    Have you ever heard the term 'Idiomatic language'. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/idiom That is what Isaiah is using in his passage. Mark 9:43-48 however is the real deal and speaks of Gehenna, the afterlife. Jer 31:38-40 38 "Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, that the city...
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    IS HELL FOREVER?

    Yes, and the truth is that it is teaching about idolatry. Verse 13 through 15 here is only four verses before the parable. How ironic..... Luke 16:13-15 “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You...
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    IS HELL FOREVER?

    Correct. And being that it was a fictional story or such, we cannot rely on that as proof.
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