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    Paul was not saved by faith

    Because his heart was wicked. A heart full of evil. When Christ visited him it made his heart pure. I dunno if that occured in seconds...nano seconds...minutes..weeks..or months after. But the handshake was made by God to Paul. And then Paul got saved by grace through faith in Christ. But thats...
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    Paul was not saved by faith

    Has nothing to do with you being saved. But according to scripture a man must be married to one women with children who respect him and take care of his house lest he can't preach.
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    Paul was not saved by faith

    Baptist love that verse because all it involves is believing and doesnt include repentance. Or does it? Lets roll back and look at the context Acts 16:29-31 " Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,30 And brought them out, and said...
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    Paul was not saved by faith

    Because it didn't. Paul was a teacher and he himself was not married nor had no children. Thus that proves he was different. Else he would not have been allowed to teach would he?
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    Paul was not saved by faith

    I am an ignorant child. I know nothing and I am nothing. I have just tryed to do the best sometimes with what I had to work with. And usually with disastrous results.
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    Paul was not saved by faith

    Not to derail the thread but look at John 6:44 "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day." So that means no matter how hard I try I cannot physically "snap someone out of" the veil? However would that also mean that...
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    Paul was not saved by faith

    hahaha Reba. I dunno I'm trying to make sense of it I really am. The bible says not to ask dumb questions but this is not a dumb question. This is important to my understanding of salvation and trying to teach people how to be saved.
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    Paul was not saved by faith

    A faith unlocked by God. God removed the veil, he saw the truth, and changed. Had Paul not been visited by Jesus he would have not changed.
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    Paul was not saved by faith

    Most of you guys are simply running circles around this issue. Why is it so hard to say that Paul was not saved by faith, but by God? Some agree with me that faith was gained after the visitation but not after. I think what it is is that most are considering my statement like works salvation...
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    The Spirit of Truth

    Not to change the subject, but this is one of the most important things God has taught me. The bible tells you not to cause strife. And preferably don't hang around those that do if you can avoid it. When we get angry in debate we "give place to the devil". It is my belief Satan can then use...
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    Paul was not saved by faith

    Right
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    The burden of proof

    The answers you seek are all in the bible. The old testament gives you many of the details you are wanting about the powers of God and creation of the heavens and the Earth. What is "absolute proof"? If I come on television and say the universe is 13 billion years old and you are made from...
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    Paul was not saved by faith

    Eternal salvation is a free gift. But what you are saying is that God must give you the faith that you then believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and get saved?
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    Paul was not saved by faith

    No not exactly....mmmm........Paul was chosen for a purpose. Jesus knew the potential in Paul even if Paul didn't. But in that instance going to Damascus, Jesus revealed himself to Paul and temporarily took his sight. Paul then got faith yes, and he repented and saw the evil he had done and...
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    Paul was not saved by faith

    No he was not repentant, he was blasphemous, Paul had no love for Christianity before Jesus exposed himself to Paul. He did become repentant and great messenger for Christ afterwards though. "he believed that this was his God he had grown up praying to and reading the scriptures" Where does it...
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    Paul was not saved by faith

    TOG I don't think we are on the same page with this. If Paul gained faith by his personal experience through Christ it would be the same thing would it not?
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    The Switch To Sunday

    There is a fine balance of the brick and mortar church to the spiritual church (body of christ). God's people who gather in a named house of the LORD. In truth we need them both and its existed in harmony for who knows how long. But something is happening lately. People are falling away from...
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    OSAS The Truth

    This is true. I have done many things in my life and thought I was "awake" and aware. But the veil only fully came off for me when I accepted JC as my lord and savior and admitted I was a sinner and came to God in a broken state. Then I truly knew the truth and could see the evil and darkness in...
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    Paul was not saved by faith

    Rather, the divine was revealed to him. He was chosen by God. Did this make getting saved by faith null and void for him?
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    Why I want to be left behind

    I dont think you have to worry. My instincts tell me we are there already and now it falls to the book of revelation.
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