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    The Meaning Of Justified

    A person who never had any faith can make a profession of faith will certainly move from that profession and this may not continue in his profession of faith. A person can fall from the faith, but faith that is given by God cannot fall from a person. One the other hand, since no person has the...
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    The Meaning Of Justified

    A person who never had any faith can make a profession of faith will certainly move from that profession and this may not continue in his profession of faith. A person can fall from the faith, but faith that is given by God cannot fall from a person. One the other hand, since no person has...
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    The Meaning Of Justified

    Hello dadof10, I remember you from a while back. You always seemed like an articulate chap. I am not sure I will be staying around, but would like to interact a little here. At this point in your OP, I agree that the term "justified" "justification" and the similar nouns and verbs speak of...
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    Not all born-again Christians make it through the sanctification process!

    Certainly the contexts are related, but I am not sure that I can agree with the way you relate the two contexts. When James "Can that faith save" that part of the sentence does not go back to the preceding context (1-13) but merely it is the grammatical antecedent of the first part of the...
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    Not all born-again Christians make it through the sanctification process!

    Francis, I am glad we agree that "saving faith is ongoing and necessary." I would also agree with the sentence where you say that "How can one claim to be "saved" if they are living in slavery to sin, when, by definition, being saved = being FREED from sin?" Romans 6 speaks of that freedom...
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    Not all born-again Christians make it through the sanctification process!

    The difference between the concepts in this thread, more then just dadof10 and myself, but the whole of the discussion seems to me to be summed up in James 2:14. Jas 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, if a man say he hath faith, but have not works? can that faith save him? The person in...
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    Not all born-again Christians make it through the sanctification process!

    In your post, you rely on some anecdotal knowledge of people who once claimed to be a Christian and then left the faith. Of course that is not a contextual issue. What you are saying is not exegetical in any way and has nothing to do with the context of James. I quoted verse 18 to demonstrate...
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    Not all born-again Christians make it through the sanctification process!

    Actually, in the context of James 2, showing faith is exactly what the context is about. Jas 2:18 Yea, a man will say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: show me thy faith apart from thy works, and I by my works will show thee my faith. Danus, If I can throw a comment in here to you...
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    Once Saved Always Saved (OSAS)!

    : ) Not a problem. I am aware of some of the differences between our traditions. The issue of free will goes all the way back to the beginning. I think of Luther and Desiderius Erasmus and their books "bondage of the will" and "freedom of the will." Nevertheless, you have always disagreed...
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    Once Saved Always Saved (OSAS)!

    dadof10, I am not sure what biblical texts you could be referring to to suggest that Abraham was justified three times. I would be interested in a reply on this. What 3 different times of justification could you be referring to in Abraham's life? Nevertheless, the only way to determine if...
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    Once Saved Always Saved (OSAS)!

    dadof10... very perceptive. I would agree that if a man can loose his salvation, sola fide is a myth. If a man can loose his salvation, there is an element of works in salvation. I would say the same thing of the concept of "free will." If our will cooperates with Gods will there is an...
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    Reformed theologians, please help me

    This is in reference to John 6:37. Joh 6:37 All that which the Father giveth me shall come unto me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. It is obvious that all men everywhere are not saved in verse 37. The text is saying all those given by the Father will be saved. They...
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    Reformed theologians, please help me

    This is about the term "whosoever" in verse 40. This is a bad illustration and does not at all reflect the grammar of the passage. It makes it seem as if the term "whosoever" is indefinite. In this context it is impossible to understand the term as indefinite because the greek term is "pas"...
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    Reformed theologians, please help me

    Butch, I missed your reference to John 12. Your reference is not in context. You use this improper reading of John 12 and then force that reading upon a clear context of effectual calling in John 6. You focus up this verse.... Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw...
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    Reformed theologians, please help me

    Actually, yes, the passage is speaking of an effectual call, and your reformed pastors told you correctly. Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father that sent me draw him: and I will raise him up in the last day. Joh 6:64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew...
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    Reformed theologians, please help me

    Joh 6:64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who it was that should betray him. Joh 6:65 And he said, For this cause have I said unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it be given unto him of the Father...
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    Reformed theologians, please help me

    If you want to see the scriptural support behind the Westminster Confession, you can use this link. http://www.vor.org/truth/1689/1689bc03.html It is supported with scriptural, and very much in context. Of course its a link to the 2nd London Baptist Confession of Faith from 1689, but it does...
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    Reformed theologians, please help me

    Chessman, I think your arguing just to argue. To answer seems to waist time. Also, I still do not believe you that you are reformed (unless you accept some redefinition of the term).
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    Reformed theologians, please help me

    The Westminster was in 1648, not 1689. Nevertheless, the date of a doctrinal statement has nothing to do with the beginnings of the Reformation. In your line of logic, Luther was not Lutheran until the Formula of Concord. Indeed, Paul was not Pauline until Romans? There can be no trinitarians...
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    Reformed theologians, please help me

    I attend a small group meeting where one of the ladies has a brother. This person defected to the Roman Catholic Church and wants to be a priest. He too says it is because of his studies of the scriptures. He attended OPC churches his whole life. There is of course also Jerry Matatics; a...
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